Neal Boortz Comments

[the golden boy]

I listened to the comments and here's what I got out of it: kill all the black people in Atlanta first, ask questions later. Let's be very frank about something: whenever you hear the terms "urban" and "thugs" in the same breath, guess who they're talking about? Black people. Some of you may say that what Boortz said was right. Not exactly. If a person is posing as a direct threat to you, you have the right to defend yourself and your property, regardless if the perp is a black man, white man or some other race or nationality. That's a whole lot different than indiscriminant shootings of people.

I think Boortz should at least be suspended for what he said. Some have been suspended and even fired for saying offensive not nearly as bad as this.

 

[artiemad]

'what are some things liberals have said lately.'
How bout Big Eddie calling Laura Ingraham a right wing slut on his radio show and being suspended for a week on his Msnbc tv show?

 

[fortmill]

'what are some things liberals have said lately.'
How bout Big Eddie calling Laura Ingraham a right wing slut on his radio show and being suspended for a week on his Msnbc tv show?

I'd hardly put that on the same level as a commentator calling for the wholesale killing of people on the street. What Ed called Ingraham was a "talk slut," not nice, but in a way true, since she indiscriminately rags on people because of their political leanings, much like a slut of any sex has indiscriminate relations. Still, MSNBC was right to suspend ED. OTOH, it is obvious that right-wing talkers are free to make as many racist, inflamatory comments as they wish.

 

[MRFLASHPORT]

To make things clear I don't agree with everything the liberal talkers say. For example when Randi Rhodes called Hillary Clinton a slut. Or the ongoing battle between Rhodes and Ed Shultz. The only liberal talker I am really fond of is Thom Hartman. Who believe IT or not funded Spry-berry Travel here in Atlanta.

However as far as I know the left-wingers mentioned above as far as I know it have not made violent remarks like that. Maybe I'm wrong. Give me an example if these lefties doing the exact same thing.

If a liberal talker did the same I wouldn't appreciate it.

You've obviously never listened to Mike Malloy. He is as hate filled and angry as Boortz, just different political views.
Both of them are entertainment. I personally find Malloy more entertaining, though I don't agree with many of his views.
Boortz can be funny, but just like Mike the show can be the same old, same old.

 

[gamefreak]

'what are some things liberals have said lately.'
How bout Big Eddie calling Laura Ingraham a right wing slut on his radio show and being suspended for a week on his Msnbc tv show?

Yes he did, but the comment while "low brow" was not nearly as bad as the Boortz comment. However MSNBC had the right to suspend him.

 

[gamefreak]

To make things clear I don't agree with everything the liberal talkers say. For example when Randi Rhodes called Hillary Clinton a slut. Or the ongoing battle between Rhodes and Ed Shultz. The only liberal talker I am really fond of is Thom Hartman. Who believe IT or not funded Spry-berry Travel here in Atlanta.

However as far as I know the left-wingers mentioned above as far as I know it have not made violent remarks like that. Maybe I'm wrong. Give me an example if these lefties doing the exact same thing.

If a liberal talker did the same I wouldn't appreciate it.

You've obviously never listened to Mike Malloy. He is as hate filled and angry as Boortz, just different political views.
Both of them are entertainment. I personally find Malloy more entertaining, though I don't agree with many of his views.
Boortz can be funny, but just like Mike the show can be the same old, same old.

Actually I have and I know what you mean. That's why I don't listen to Malloy. Hes not my cup of tea as opposed to somebody like Thom Hartman. Oh and Thank You whoever it is for the "Meathead" comment. That was my FAVORITE TV show!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[trusty]

When is somebody gonna bring Imus into this conversation for comparative purposes?




(Or did it just happen?)

 

[gamefreak]

Don Imus did the same thing for a long period of rime and it finally caught up to him in the "Basketball Comments" in 2007. Including defamatory comments about Howard Stern. However everything initially caught up with Imus after awhile. Not to mention Imus did apologize and clean up his act.

 

[blue67ccm]

I find it interesting that the bulk of the attention here is being paid to a comment by a radio talk-show host and not to the real issue......crime.

 

[Greedy Kilowatt]

Boortz moved to Florida to dodge the Georgia income tax. And fly his plane more days per year. So he could play golf in January. And so his jurassic, candy ass would be warm in the winter. Crime in Atlanta had nothing to do with it.

AJC, September 2010, on the most recent FBI crime stats: "Crime continued to drop almost everywhere in metro Atlanta, matching a three-year national trend..."

 

[Goat Rodeo Cowboy]

I find it interesting that the bulk of the attention here is being paid to a comment by a radio talk-show host and not to the real issue......crime.

I understand your frustration, but I don't understand your value system.

Our nation was forged in an era when the bureacrats, the military and the police of a very demanding government reduced individual human beings to pawns of the government. Our nation's founder realized that significant value must be placed on the worth of each and every citizen and that value must be shrouded in a shield of "personal value and integrity". You don't search me without a good reason. You don't jail me without a good reason. You don't execute me without a good reason.

Yes, crime is the real issue here as you say.

But CRIME also includes putting a gun into the hands of people who will use it without consideration for the idea that the person just killed had "worth and value that must be shrouded in a shield of personal value and integrity.

We were told that building prisons and giving harsher sentences would put an end to such crimes. All it is doing is bankrupting our governments who own the prisons.

Why should I believe that "dead urban thugs laying in the streets" would be any more effective than building more prisons?

Much of the dress and behavior of the people we describe as part of the urban culture is a display of their current view that "the system is stacked against them". Finding dead bodies in the street when they wake up in the morning will change them how?

And having a guy talking about it on the radio will improve the situation how?



You have every right to expect to drive or walk the streets of downtown Atlanta or any other city or community and not be molested, attacked, intimidated, hurt, insulted or killed. But if you are, neither the government or another citizen has some freedom to molest, attack, intimidate, hurt, insult or kill someone else without proper legal procedure and recourse as protection or vengance for what happened to you.

 

[Rusty Muck]

You've obviously never listened to Mike Malloy. He is as hate filled and angry as Boortz, just different political views.

That's okay. Virtually no one listens to Mike Malloy these days. The few times I did back in 2006, his spite-filled venom was an automatic turn-off.

Hard to believe that Malloy, Phil Hendrie, Clark Howard and Boortz all worked at the same station back in the day. Talk about a ZOO.

 

[taylorengineer]

Goat R. Cowboy-

Talking about problems is the first step to a solution. The Boortz show is a perfect forum.
We can't afford all the folks we have in prison now. And you propose prisons as a solution? Come on now........
If the court system would put these guys in prison....AND....if we really understood HOW to rehabilitate criminals.....AND.....if we could eliminate poverty and ignorance......THEN....we might have a chance to handle this in a civilized way.
With our present day society there is little chance of any of this soon.
I'm tired of not being able to come into downtown Atlanta without fearing for my life as are many others.
And let's get this straight right now. It's NOT a race issue - it's an economic/social issue. African-Americans are the usual victims of these "thugs."
How about some LOUD condemnation of this thug behavior? Maybe then.....attitudes might change!

 

[agentUrge]

On what Boortz said:

Kind of irresponsible...he could have easily used any other way of describing the people he claims he would like to see littering the streets (though I don't think he does..he's a sensationalist) but he chose a word...which, at least in my view, is a word that targets black people. I only say that because the first time I'd heard or seen the word THUG used in every day conversation was hearing Limbaugh describe the LA rioters in '92 and later seeing Tupac proudly repping "Thug Life" on his torso. Admittedly, I associated that word with gang members....even though I know gangs come in all colors. None the less, I still think he could have used any other word as a description.

I heard him around the lunch hour today and while I didn't hear it all, I didn't hear him ONCE try to make up for his error in judgement. He could have said "the other day i made a comment which I didn't think through very well......" blah blah blah.

On the issue he refers to:

I could probably go on and on with this but I don't know the answer to solve the problem..nor do I know how the justice system really works. I do know that I'm all for people protecting their own. Have been the victim crime, myself (my car was broken into twice back when I lived in FL) and attempted crime (I find man's best friend to be the best deterrent), I'm often cheering when I hear about the guy who fended off a robber in his little convenient store with a bat or a shotgun. I get what Neal is saying....but only agree with part of it. People have the right to not be afraid to pull out of their own driveways or garages. There's an answer there, but is arming the public that answer? Everyone should be able to defend themselves....but there are plenty of people out there who should NEVER be near a gun simply because they lack the mental capacity to reason and determine if potential perp sneaking around their back yard is a three-time felon with a gun or a brainless teenager playing air-soft with his friends.

I'm reminded of a Jim Carrey bit. He was talking about defending yourself against crime and then went on to say

"That's why I don't think it's a great idea to put a GUN in the glove compartment...because one day you might end up using it......but then again if you're driving and someone cuts you off....well, you pretty much have to shoot'em.....or else they won't learn nuthin'!"

 

[radioworld]

Whites and other ethnic groups contribute to Atlantas Crime just as much as the African-Americans.

The crime statistics just don't back that up, despite the efforts put forth by Shirley, and now Kasim, to make you believe otherwise.

 

[trusty]

Kind of irresponsible...he could have easily used any other way of describing the people he claims he would like to see littering the streets (though I don't think he does..he's a sensationalist) but he chose a word...which, at least in my view, is a word that targets black people. I only say that because the first time I'd heard or seen the word THUG used in every day conversation was hearing Limbaugh describe the LA rioters in '92 and later seeing Tupac proudly repping "Thug Life" on his torso. Admittedly, I associated that word with gang members....even though I know gangs come in all colors. None the less, I still think he could have used any other word as a description.

When the elder Bush talked about "jack-booted thugs", he wasn't necessarily talking about black people. Also, people have associated "thugs" with Mafia and other crime "groups".

The word I thought you were gonna say was "Yo". Boortz very distinctly let that word out to stand by itself, as if well-planned. Between being a lawyer and talk radio host, the guy's had years of knowing what is "tolerable' while pushing the envelope to extreme.

Whether you like him or not, you gotta admit he's good.

 

[Goat Rodeo Cowboy]

O. K. guys. We need to come back to radio with this topic. There must be another forum where we can discuss the politics of how to properly deal with crime.

I agree with TaylorEngineer: Talking about a problem is the first step in finding a solution.

But here is where I get separated from you guys who are patting Boortz on the back. "Talking about a problem" if it is to lead to a solution requires that the talking be two way, back and forth, a CONVERSATION if you please. Neither Boortz or Rush are in the business of solving problems. Neither of them want to hear how I disagree with them or how you disagree with them. Much like feeding Christians to the lions back in the days of the Roman Empire, Boortz delights in turning loose one disagreeing caller now and then who he then devours, embarrasses and dismisses in the style of the Roman Coliseum.

That is NOT "Talking about a problem in a way that is the first step in finding a solution."

I understand. That is NOT their job. I think of myself as part of the community of Problem Solvers. Thus it makes me ill if I listen to them with any regularity. I see them as compounding the problems of America.

Back in the ancient days there was this really quaint idea that the mass media could be a tool in the solving of problems. Boy were we delusional!!!!

 

[taylorengineer]

Well Goat.....you're right. I guess calling Boortz's show a "perfect forum" is a stretch. Actually downright inaccurate. As Roddy said, the only purpose for Neil Boortz is entertainment....it is NOT a forum for solving issues.
Like any good politician or actor, Boortz has mastered the art of playing off the dreams and fears of his audience.

 

[jabba17]

Well Goat.....you're right. I guess calling Boortz's show a "perfect forum" is a stretch. Actually downright inaccurate. As Roddy said, the only purpose for Neil Boortz is entertainment....it is NOT a forum for solving issues.
Like any good politician or actor, Boortz has mastered the art of playing off the dreams and fears of his audience.

Would you rather listen to this? Neal Boortz on Ring Radio back in 1979, plus WRNG's signoff (WRNG was a daytimer back then).

http://www.grhof.com/Neal Boortz 680 WRNG 3-08-1979 botted.mp3

 

[GoodPrepper]

Boortz is calling on people simply to protect themselves and their property with force, and with lethal force when necessary. It's bizarre to me that people call this "inciting violence". The same people assume Boortz means "African-American" when he says "urban thug". Urban thugs come in all races. In parts of Boston and Philadelphia you'll find plenty of white urban thugs. When any one of these thugs carjacks you, will you disagree with Boortz?

Personally, I'm a lifelong Democrat, I'm gay, tend toward Liberal and I was recently robbed at gunpoint. I've always supported the Second Amendment, but being attacked made me appreciate that good citizens have a civic duty to stand against violent criminals whenever possible. If someone tries to rob you, trust me, you won't give a damn what race he is. A thug is a thug, and I hope you'll use force to stop him.