Network Game Shows Uncleared by Affiliates

[anotherguyTN]

As for WMC in Memphis, it was actually a little later that they started preempting a good portion of the NBC daytime schedule. In 1979/80, they cleared all except the 9 am hour. In 1981, they didn't clear 9 am or the hour long soap, Texas. In 1982, they cleared Texas, but not the hour long game show Fantasy. They did air Wheel of Fortune at 2:30 (delayed from 9:30).

By 1988, instead of the NBC game shows they were airing talk shows from 9 am to 10 am and airing Santa Barbara at 11 am instead of 2 pm. This was a bad move for Santa Barbara because in 1992 WMC cancelled it because it was getting a 7 share going up against Young & The Restless which had a 56 share in Memphis. They replaced it with the dreadful Jane Whitney talk show which meant WMC aired Donahue at 9, Sally at 10 and Jane at 11 not to mention Oprah at 3.

I know that WMC started slowly in pre-empting game shows in the late 70's with Dinah Shore's syndicated talk show and then Donahue. I guess that when they saw that they could get away with it they gradually got worse over time. I could get shows that WMC didn't carry at times from WPSD 6 in Paducah, KY after my parents got an antenna rotor, or when I was at my grandmother's house since she had cable. But by that time I was in college and eventually working so I didn't get to see as much daytime TV except when I was on vacation or sick.

WMC did occasionally carry another game show besides Wheel to fill out an hour, but it was very sporadic. One of the dumbest moves I ever saw them make was to carry Super Password at 11:30 AM CT rather than the normal time of 11:00, but the episodes were delayed by a week! They also carried the Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour, probably since it ran in the afternoon rather than the morning.

WREG dropping CBS's 3:00 PM CT shows didn't really bother me too much other than when Match Game and Press Your Luck ran in that slot. The only other game show that I can remember lasting any time in that slot was Tattletales, which I never really liked. Most of what else ran in that time slot were either game shows that were flops, or sitcom reruns, but the only ones that I can remember possibly running at that time that I might have liked were MASH and The Jeffersons.

I don't know if this is possible, but are there any websites that may have grids for network daytime TV like are available for prime time showing each season? That would be interesting to see. I know there would be more changes in a year, but if there was at least a sampling of what was on each year it would be good.

 

[bpatrick]

WFMY Greensboro did not carry the CBS version of "Joker's Wild"
from the fall of 1972 until the spring of 1974, preferring to run
Merv Griffin from 9:30-10:30 AM. But what's really odd is that
around 1979, Ch. 2 pre-empted "The Price Is Right" (10:30-11:30 AM)
in favor of "Dinah!". That didn't last long; neither did the station's airing
"Guiding Light" at 9 AM around 1980 or '81, long before that became common
in the larger markets ("GL" moved back to 3 in Greensboro by 1981 and stayed
there until the end).

WGHP, then the Triad's ABC affiliate, stopped airing the network's
4 PM shows in 1974; "Money Maze" and the ABC version of "You Don't
Say!" were not carried in the market (neither was "Edge Of Night" after
it moved to ABC until independent Ch. 48 picked it up and ran it in the
morning in the early '80s).

NBC affiliate WXII could be counted on to run one NBC game in the '80s:
"Wheel Of Fortune." I know it didn't carry the '80s version of "Sale Of The
Century," nor did it carry "Password Plus"/"Super Password."

In Greenville, SC, NBC affiliate WYFF never carried the network's noon games
after the mid-'70s; in the '80s shows such as "Hot Potato" were handed off
to independent Ch. 40. CBS affiliate WSPA liked to pre-empt the network's
10:30 AM games; "Press Your Luck" didn't start airing on Ch. 7 until after
Michael Larson's appearance, and the 1989 version of "Now You See It" wasn't
carried on 7 either. ABC affiliate WLOS never carried $20,000 Pyramid" when
it aired at noon, preferring syndicated programming (including some games like
"Joker's Wild" and "Play The Percentages") before finally starting a noon newscast
around 1990.

 

[Prais]

Butch said, "But what's really odd..."

I really don't see how that is odd, except for this whole thread seems odd to me, because stations go where the MONEY is - and pre-empting a net show, when the station gets NO compensation (or little compensation) makes sense if you can sell local avails in Dinah, or the other shows mentioned.

Networks CANNOT dictate what programs a local station carries, and
daytime, if a LOCAL station can sell it, is a GREAT thing.

 

[nbc9houston]

Was there ever a CBS affiliate other than KXTV in Sacramento that pre-empted The Price is Right?

KHOU in Houston from 1980 to 1982.

Sometime before affiliating with Fox, KDFW dropped The Price is Right in favor of Donahue and an expanded noon newscast.

KMGH in Denver (shortly before switching to ABC) dropped The Price is Right from its schedule to air American Journal and a half-hour of news.

 

[Prais]

In the late 1960's in Chicago, CBS OWNED WBBM did NOT Carry JACK BENNY I believe he ran in sequence at M/F 3:30pm ACST (not sure what ch 2 ran instead).

WCIU (ch 26 ind.) ran the show at that time.

 

[Cmpb301]

Match Game '73 did not air in Hawaii on KGMB until 1974! Probably a week behind I recall. Then the name change to Match Game '74. By 1975 the station tried it late in the afternoon. Checkers & Pogo was shorter by then.

 

[hipman2]

I don't know if this is possible, but are there any websites that may have grids for network daytime TV like are available for prime time showing each season? That would be interesting to see. I know there would be more changes in a year, but if there was at least a sampling of what was on each year it would be good.

I run this section on the History of Daytime TV Schedules. I can't format it into a grid but it's more TV Guide like.
Hope this helps.
http://www.sandiegoradionews.com/018.htm

 

[cowboybud]

Was there ever a CBS affiliate other than KXTV in Sacramento that pre-empted The Price is Right?

KHOU in Houston from 1980 to 1982.

In addition, I don't think KHOU ever carried anything CBS had at 3pm central.

When KDFW dropped TPIR and The Bold & Beautiful, they were picked up by future CBS affiliate KTVT.

 

[anotherguyTN]

I don't know if this is possible, but are there any websites that may have grids for network daytime TV like are available for prime time showing each season? That would be interesting to see. I know there would be more changes in a year, but if there was at least a sampling of what was on each year it would be good.

I run this section on the History of Daytime TV Schedules. I can't format it into a grid but it's more TV Guide like.
Hope this helps.
http://www.sandiegoradionews.com/018.htm

Thanks for the info. One thing that amazes me is the fact that there were no changes in CBS's daytime schedule from September 6, 1993 to September 18, 2009, when Guiding Light ended. It's too bad that it was all soaps except for The Price is Right.

 

[charlestondxman]

Game Shows '75 also has a table showing all of the daytime shows from the three networks. It hasn't been updated in a few years, but it lists them all in a table.

http://www.curtalliaume.com/cbs_day.html
http://www.curtalliaume.com/nbc_day.html
http://www.curtalliaume.com/abc_day.html

 

[Ultimajock]

In addition, I don't think KHOU ever carried anything CBS had at 3pm central.

...hmmm...did anyone else in Houston pick up TattleTales, by any chance?...

 

[BobbyNBC10]

I did see awhile back where NBC affiliate KCRA picked up Tattletales which then CBS affiliate KXTV did not carry. Did KXTV or anyone in Sacramneto do the nighttime Tattletales in 1977-78?. I know KXTV had nighttime Price Is Right , Match Game PM and also Dawson Family Feud nighttime before it went to KCRA and then KOVR.

 

[formeraa]

Match Game '73 did not air in Hawaii on KGMB until 1974! Probably a week behind I recall. Then the name change to Match Game '74. By 1975 the station tried it late in the afternoon. Checkers & Pogo was shorter by then.

Back in the day, almost everything was a week late in Hawaii. The network evening newscasts ran the next morning -- put on the last flight to Honolulu from the West Coast. I believe that CBS was the first evening newscast to air via satellite. I believe that Walter Cronkite actually updated the newscast for Hawaii -- "This is The CBS Evening News Hawaii Edition via satellite". Later, they substituted "The CBS Evening News West Coast Edition -- with Dan Rather in NY and Terry Drinkwater in LA" as the Hawaii newscast via satellite.

 

[spb]

Which CBS stations pre-empted "The Price is Right" during its first 10 years or so? And which ABC stations pre-empted "Family Feud" after it moved to 12:00 noon ET/11:00 am CT?

 

[BobbyNBC10]

When I lived in Battle Creek, WZZM-TV 13 Grand Rapids' ABC station tape delayed Dawson Feud after it moved to noon each weeekday at 10 am after The Edge of Night which was also on taped delay from ABC .WUHQ-Tv 41 in BC ,West Michigan's other ABC affiliate aired all ABC shows in sync until 1982 when they too aired FF on a tape delay daily at 10, to air CNN Headline News at noon.

WKZ0 (now WWMT) and WJIM (now WLNS) have always carried TPIR from day one,including when it was paired up with Match Game '73/'74/75 and Tattletales made it a trio in 1974 and most of '75,until CBS axed The Joker's Wild and Now You See It.

I know KPIX in SF pre-empted TPIR for years, I think mostly when it aired in the AM's until,I think 1990, because of local talk shows, and they also bumped other CBS games in the 1980's like Card Sharks-Eubanks, $25K Pyramid and Press Your Luck and KRON bumped Classic Concentration for most of it's run , and the KPIX and KRON discarded game shows ended up on KTZO/KOFY TV 20.

 

[bpatrick]

I did mention that WFMY pre-empted "Price" briefly in
1979-80 and ran "Dinah!" instead (aside to prais, I'm
not related to Butch Patrick); that's the only one I
know of, although Charlotte's WBTV was notorious in
the '80s for running "Price" on a day-behind at 10:30
and its local "Top O' The Day" at 11:30, meaning that
CBS's 10:30 games, such as "Press Your Luck," weren't
carried in Charlotte unless you were able to pick up
either WFMY or WSPA.

I seem to recall WRAL, when it was still an ABC affiliate,
pre-empting "Feud" at noon; WFTV may have been another
(someone from Orlando correct me on this). There were
plenty that ran "Feud" on a day-behind: WSB ran it at 9 AM
and sister station WSOC at 10; WJLA was another (and I
think Baltimore's WJZ pre-empted it altogether, although it's
one of the few I recall running "Edge Of Night" at 4).

 

[azumanga]

I seem to recall WRAL, when it was still an ABC affiliate,
pre-empting "Feud" at noon; WFTV may have been another
(someone from Orlando correct me on this). There were
plenty that ran "Feud" on a day-behind: WSB ran it at 9 AM
and sister station WSOC at 10; WJLA was another (and I
think Baltimore's WJZ pre-empted it altogether, although it's
one of the few I recall running "Edge Of Night" at 4).

WTSP in Tampa Bay also bumped "Feud" outright after its move to 12 Noon for news, meaning those wanting to watch it must watch channel 40. Same for "Edge of Night", which WTSP always bump for syndicated programming.

 

[spb]

Didn't a lot of NBC affiliates opt out of "The Gong Show"?

Yes. For example, Omaha's then NBC affiliate, KMTV 3, did not carry The Gong Show when NBC aired it at 11:30am Central time because of a local talk show. Gong finally aired in Omaha when NBC moved it to 3:00pm in January 1977. The same week, Omaha's then CBS affiliate WOWT 6 started airing the syndicated nighttime version Fridays at 6:30pm. NBC then moved Gong back to 11:30am in December 1977, so the NBC version was not seen in Omaha again (except for a few months of syndicated repeats of the NBC version starting in fall 1978). However, WOWT still had the nighttime version on Fridays, hosted by Chuck Barris by this time, so we could still get a once a week fill of Gong.

I'd like to know if any major city NBC stations never aired Gong, or just at 11:30a CT, or just at 12:00n/3:00p CT.

 

[Mr. Mike]

In the St. Louis market back in the day when Channel 4 was CBS owned-and-operated KMOX-TV, the only other network affiliates with a history of pre-emption were Channel 2 (KTVI-then ABC) and Channel 5 (KSD/KSDK-NBC). IIRC, programs preemted by 2 and 5 were seen on then-independents Channel 11 and Channel 30.

I have at least one game show example:

NBC's Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour from 1984. Here it aired on a week's delay on Channel 30 at 12:30pm weekdays. In the late-summer it was replaced by the soapie Santa Barbara. Likewise, it was preempted on Channel 5 initially and, like the show before it, aired on Channel 30's weekday schedule.

There was another game-show preemption from Channel 5: during the mid-1970s, the game show Jackpot was preempted from its 11:30am CST time slot; here in St. Louis, KSD-TV aired an hour-long 11:30 edition of "Eyewitness News" in that slot. Jackpot and an NBC News update aired on Channel 11 at 11:30am during that time.

As for Channel 2, the only major preemption around that time was the soap-opera The Edge of Night. Instead of airing TEON at its 3:00pm slot, KTVI aired a movie duriing that time, called "Million Dollar Movie".

For the record, Channel 4 cleared the whole CBS schedule principally because it was owned by CBS (the pre-emption bug didn't bite Channel 4 until KMOX-TV became today's KMOV-TV).

 

[Wright County Guy]

The 9-10am CT hour on CBS was never cleared by CBS affilliate WCCO, with one exception--they did run Pyramid at 9 back in 1987 (evidence here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC0LMS33lIE ), but no Card Sharks at 9:30. Instead, we got Jeopardy reruns.

Eventually, independent Ch. 23 picked up the 9-10 hour around 1989 when it was daytime Feud/daytime Wheel. Both syndicated versions aired on, of course, WCCO.

On NBC, Super Password was never cleared here. Instead, NBC affiliate KARE filled the time with syndicated gems like "$1,000,000,000 Chance of a Lifetime" and "Couch Potatoes".

ABC's KSTP was not kind to the 10-11am hour, but those shows made it to independent Ch. 41, then Ch. 23 later.