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Not exactly. First of all, ABC was hardly a big network at the time.

That continued well into the '60s. I think the first real success ABC had was "Batman" and that was a fad rather than something it could build a schedule around. Other than "Monday Night Football," I don't think ABC truly became one of the "big boys" until it struck gold with "Happy Days" and other sitcoms in the mid-'70s. IIRC, ABC topped the weekly Nielsens for the first time during those years.
 
Fox Television Stations, Inc. is a direct descendant of the Allen B. Dumont Corporation, even if the two networks technically aren't related, other than NFL Football airing on both networks.

IIRC the first coast to coast televised NFL game aired on DUM (the 1951 NFLCG).

ixnay
 
I don't think ABC truly became one of the "big boys" until it struck gold with "Happy Days" and other sitcoms in the mid-'70s. IIRC, ABC topped the weekly Nielsens for the first time during those years.

Leonard Goldenson's autobiography is a fantastic read if you can find it. ABC was the last network to go all-color. They had to take out a huge loan to make the conversion. The main profit center at the time was radio. Still, they managed to put four hours of programming on the air every night.
 
That continued well into the '60s. I think the first real success ABC had was "Batman" and that was a fad rather than something it could build a schedule around. Other than "Monday Night Football," I don't think ABC truly became one of the "big boys" until it struck gold with "Happy Days" and other sitcoms in the mid-'70s. IIRC, ABC topped the weekly Nielsens for the first time during those years.

I would guess that ABC's first real success was The Flintstones, which finished 18th in the Nielsens for the 1960-61 season. IIRC, it was also ABC's first show to air in color. Bewitched was also successful before Batman started.

But it is true that, despite a few successful shows beforehand, ABC really didn't become a big-league network until the 1970s.
 
But it is true that, despite a few successful shows beforehand, ABC really didn't become a big-league network until the 1970s.

ABC was also the first of the major nets to be sold. In 1985, they were bought by Capital Cities, a much smaller broadcasting company, for $3.5 billion.

The next year, Laurence Tisch and his Loews company bought CBS. Then in 1988 RCA, owner of NBC, was sold to GE.
 
ABC was also the first of the major nets to be sold. In 1985, they were bought by Capital Cities, a much smaller broadcasting company, for $3.5 billion.

The next year, Laurence Tisch and his Loews company bought CBS. Then in 1988 RCA, owner of NBC, was sold to GE.
Wasn't ABC a spin off from RCA when it was forced to sell one of the networks?
 
In 1966, ABC created its four demographic radio networks, but put them all on the same network line specifically because of that 1943 decision.

“ABC Information Network” news at the top of the hour
“ABC FM Radio Network” news at :15 past
“ABC Entertainment Network” news at the bottom of the hour
“ABC Contemporary Network” news at :55

“Information” skewed the oldest and most serious, “Contemporary” the youngest.

Yes, all were fed on the same line. I recall a few occasions where the DJ would forget to pot down the network line following the “Contemporary” feed at :55 and you would hear the beginning of the “Information” newscast mixed with whatever song was playing moments later.
 
Not exactly. First of all, ABC was hardly a big network at the time. ABC was also partners with a part of Paramount, United Paramount Theaters. In fact, Leonard Goldenson, the founder of ABC, was the president of UPT. Paramount also had its own TV network.

The other player at the time was the federal government, and they imposed a bunch of regulations on Paramount and the networks that made it difficult for a company like Dumont to compete. Did the networks "conspire" with the government? The history mainly points to NBC's David Sarnoff, who did all kinds of anti-competitive things on a number of levels. But it's all very complicated, and there were a number of reasons why Dumont failed.

Thanks for filling in the gaps of my knowledge. When I said ABC was a "big" network, I meant more from a financial backing (they were able to survive because they had a second revenue stream in Radio). I knew that CBS and NBC were the dominant players for decades (even ABC radio has an interesting history).

Dumont is a complicated story. I know many of their affiliates were secondary affiliates, and it looks like they split that secondary affiliation with several stations, which had to make it very confusing to find out where a Dumont show was on. Had Dumont started in the 60's instead of the 40's, when UHF was a bit more common, that also could have helped. And if Dumont were owned by a larger company that could afford to run it at a loss for 5 or 10 more years, that also could have made a huge difference. All of that said though, even Fox struggled in the 80s, and it wasn't until they made a big bet on Football that they became one of the now "big 4" networks. The other thing that is interesting to me is that we, at one point, had 7 networks trying to compete, all with large corporate backing except for Pax. Even still, that field shrunk to 5 first-run networks, and that 5th network is operating at a loss on paper (for benefit of revenue on the back end.)
 
I would guess that ABC's first real success was The Flintstones, which finished 18th in the Nielsens for the 1960-61 season. IIRC, it was also ABC's first show to air in color. Bewitched was also successful before Batman started.

But it is true that, despite a few successful shows beforehand, ABC really didn't become a big-league network until the 1970s.
Actually it was The Jetsons that was ABC’s first color show, and that was in a roundabout way. ABC still didn’t have color capacity so The Jetsons and The Flintstones were transmitted to ABC from NBC, then ABC sent those out to affiliates.
 
Fox never HAD a 10PM hour, so they had nothing to give back. By the time Fox launched, 10PM news was a normal occurrence, and many affiliates Fox was chasing after didn't want to give that up. I had originally expected Fox to "take" the 10PM hour back when they became a valuable network (around the time they got the NFL, but before they owned a lot of their affiliates) but it never happened. Now, you see the opposite happening with Fox O&O stations, they see more money in local news and have increased local news around the country on stations they owned. The local affiliate, which had 1 hour of news back when Fox launched, now has over 9 hours a day of news programming between the main and "+" channels, and over 11 hours of local programming per day total.

Fox actually did program Sundays at 10 ET every season from 1987-88 to 1992-93. Some years, they also had a 10:30 ET show. Many affiliates just carried their 10 o'clock news as usual; some delayed the network program, but by the early '90s, many stations weren't clearing the shows at all.
 
Fox actually did program Sundays at 10 ET every season from 1987-88 to 1992-93. Some years, they also had a 10:30 ET show. Many affiliates just carried their 10 o'clock news as usual; some delayed the network program, but by the early '90s, many stations weren't clearing the shows at all.

I stand corrected, again. In 1988, I wasn't allowed to watch anything on Fox. They were on a weaker station, and had a reputation for "edgier" programming that my parents didn't approve of (I was 8 at the time, so I guess I can't blame them?). By the time that "ban" was lifted, a lot had changed about Fox. It was still on a poor signal, but we had moved to a house with a rooftop antenna, and things had matured at Fox.

Looking back at the historical schedule of Fox, they sure had an interesting launch strategy. Programming Saturday and Sunday to launch? And networks used to program on Saturdays?! I wonder why that changed? Certainly not a strategy that a network would use today, but even back in the mid 90's both The WB and UPN didn't program on Saturdays (and The CW still doesn't.)

I had also forgotten that The Simpsons spent their first 5 seasons on Thursdays before moving to the Sunday spot.

So yeah, thanks for pointing that out, sent me down an interesting rabbit hole!
 
One exception I can remember is during the Prime Time Access Rule days (as many of you recall, networks had to give up usually the 7:30pm ET/PT half hour so local stations could run high-minded public affairs programming---ahem---syndicated game shows). For a year or two, the half hour was on Sunday, with the networks signing off at 10:30pm. This gave WHIO-TV, the CBS affiliate in Dayton, OH, a Sunday night 10:30pm newscast. WDTN (or was it still WLW-D?) may have followed.
 
I stand corrected, again. In 1988, I wasn't allowed to watch anything on Fox. They were on a weaker station, and had a reputation for "edgier" programming that my parents didn't approve of (I was 8 at the time, so I guess I can't blame them?). By the time that "ban" was lifted, a lot had changed about Fox. It was still on a poor signal, but we had moved to a house with a rooftop antenna, and things had matured at Fox.

Looking back at the historical schedule of Fox, they sure had an interesting launch strategy. Programming Saturday and Sunday to launch? And networks used to program on Saturdays?! I wonder why that changed? Certainly not a strategy that a network would use today, but even back in the mid 90's both The WB and UPN didn't program on Saturdays (and The CW still doesn't.)

I had also forgotten that The Simpsons spent their first 5 seasons on Thursdays before moving to the Sunday spot.

So yeah, thanks for pointing that out, sent me down an interesting rabbit hole!
Married With Children I believe went from Thursday to Sunday with the Simpsons.
 
As far as I can tell, that was on Sunday during its entire run. They ran three episodes on the premiere night of Sunday, April 5, 1987.
 
As far as I can tell, that was on Sunday during its entire run. They ran three episodes on the premiere night of Sunday, April 5, 1987.
It was replayed twice on that first night. And Married with children was on Saturday Nights briefly, went back to Sundays and finished their run on Mondays in the 1996-97 TV season
 
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