New 97.1 The River still new??? It sounds dead!

[Goodtimesandgreatoldies]

It is a proven fact that Connie Francis was the #1 FEMALE hitmaker of the 1960`s. Just ask Dick Bartley! www.dickbartley.com. I have also heard many other Connie Francis songs on True Oldies 106.7 lately. They were playing V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N last night!!!!!

 

[RTibbs]

It is a proven fact that Connie Francis was the #1 FEMALE hitmaker of the 1960`s.

That was not your original statement at all. I believe you said she was the no. 1 rock n' roll hitmaker of the 60's!!! The ridiculousness of that statement still makes me laugh.

Just ask Dick Bartley! www.dickbartley.com.

In the words of Homer J. Simpson: "Boring" or "Who Cares!".

I have also heard many other Connie Francis songs on True Oldies 106.7 lately. They were playing V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N last night!!!!!

Hey Honey, you are not going to believe this but True Oldies is playing Connie Francis' V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N. Quick call all the neighbors this may never happen again in our lifetime. It is rarer than a total exclipse of the sun.

 

[Biz Listener]

It is a proven fact that Connie Francis was the #1 FEMALE hitmaker of the 1960`s. Just ask Dick Bartley! www.dickbartley.com. I have also heard many other Connie Francis songs on True Oldies 106.7 lately. They were playing V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N last night!!!!!

If you put it that way, she probably did have more hits than any other female solo artist during the 1960's. That's because female singers who had hits while fronting bands, like Grace Slick or Janis Joplin, or female singers who were part of a group, like the Supremes, aren't included in the counting. And, because the concept of "hits" favors music factory workers at the expense of musicians like Slick or Joplin who concentrated on albums instead of catchy, bubble-gum AM hits.

So, Connie Francis got lucky as the vocalist on songs she didn't pick, or write, or produce, or do anything but show up at the session and sing than musicians who worked their tails off to actually create music. Big freakin' deal. Who was her competition? Little Peggy Marsh? Shelley Farberrys cashing in on her 15 minutes fame from the Donna Reed Show?

The main reason why I can't stay tuned in to 106.7 for more than a few minutes is that no matter what good songs they play, they play too many crappy bubble-gum songs that force me to hit the station button. I have to say that The River doesn't play much that excites me. I never look forward to turning the station on, but I seldom feel compelled to turn it off. The River is like vanilla ice cream. Bland, boring, and predictable -- but never objectionable.

 

[Radio K!]

Even though Connie Francis was a force of nature in the 60's.

I say give me LuLu, or Dusty Springfield any day!

No...I don't know what's going on. I just heard the Kid Rock song "All Summer Long" on Rock 100.5,
and my brain shut down to protect it's self...

 

[Biz Listener]

Even though Connie Francis was a force of nature in the 60's.

I say give me LuLu, or Dusty Springfield any day!

Now you're talking about women who can sing! Not that Connie Francis wasn't good. As the female equivalent of a Bobby Rydell or Frankie Avalon, she wasn't half bad. She was better than any of the modern pop tarts, but it doesn't take much to sound better than Brittaney or Avril.

But thinking of Dusty Springfield got me thinking. Maybe there's a place on the radio dial for a station that plays the non-rock "pop" hits of the 50's, 60's, and 70's. Maybe there's an untapped market for Vegas-style lounge singers like Bobby Vinton, Tom Jones, Tony Bennett, and the other recording artists from that era who weren't targeting their stuff at teenagers.

 

[Goodtimesandgreatoldies]

I have noticed that True Oldies 106.7 mixes these great artists in their 5,000 song playlist!

 

[RTibbs]

I have noticed that True Oldies 106.7 mixes these great artists in their 5,000 song playlist!

Yeah for 5,000 song playlists that actually do not exist!!!

 

[jabba17]

Even though Connie Francis was a force of nature in the 60's.

I say give me LuLu, or Dusty Springfield any day!

Now you're talking about women who can sing! Not that Connie Francis wasn't good. As the female equivalent of a Bobby Rydell or Frankie Avalon, she wasn't half bad. She was better than any of the modern pop tarts, but it doesn't take much to sound better than Brittaney or Avril.

But thinking of Dusty Springfield got me thinking. Maybe there's a place on the radio dial for a station that plays the non-rock "pop" hits of the 50's, 60's, and 70's. Maybe there's an untapped market for Vegas-style lounge singers like Bobby Vinton, Tom Jones, Tony Bennett, and the other recording artists from that era who weren't targeting their stuff at teenagers.

Even 99X's House of Retro Pleasure played "What Have I Done To Deserve This" by the Pet Shop Boys w/Dusty Springfield when she died. Talent is talent...

What you're talking about, format-wise, is a revival of the "standards" format or the "nostalgia" format, fast-forwarded a decade. Not as the old Beautiful Music format, but instead with vocals and full instrumentation, not orchestrated BM Muzak with no vocals. Maybe brand it as "adult classic vocals" to avoid the stigma of "standards/nostalgia"?

Doesn't B98.5 do something like this on their HD2 channel?

IMO this is one of the music formats that might actually work on AM. Probably not enough market for FM. I'm sure satellite has such a format.

 

[OutOfTheBiz]

I have noticed that True Oldies 106.7 mixes these great artists in their 5,000 song playlist!

I want to see a complete list of these song titles. Since they are all "in a computer" it shouldn't be that hard to acquire. Get on that, goodtimes - now!

Need I mention that Scott Shannon was the same programmer whose Z100 Legal ID in NYC (in his own voice) said the station had 1,000,000 Gigawatts of power...

 

[Biz Listener]

I have noticed that True Oldies 106.7 mixes these great artists in their 5,000 song playlist!

Maybe so, but they also play so much outright crap that it's painful to have to sit through so many crappy songs to get to hear a real nugget every now and then.

Now, if you want to hear a station with a really good oldies playlist that's wide and deep, pick up a streaming webcast of WJPA from Washington, PA. Like all oldies stations, it includes its share of songs that I hated back when they were new. But it does play some of the really great old songs that the corporate programmers overlook.

IMO this is one of the music formats that might actually work on AM. Probably not enough market for FM. I'm sure satellite has such a format.

Renda runs a format similar to that on WJAS, 1360-AM in Pittsburgh. I don't have a satelite, but I think there's a format like that on Comcast's music channels on cable TV.

And speaking of Comcast's music channels, I find that when I'm at home and want to listen to music, I much prefer Comcast's Classic Rock or Arena Rock channels to any radio station I can pick up.

 

[Goodtimesandgreatoldies]

It is hard to believe that the River is still so dead.

 

[OutOfTheBiz]

It is hard to believe that the River is still so dead.

It is hard to believe you still cannot read a ratings report.

 

[Goodtimesandgreatoldies]

What I hear of 97.1 the River sounds dead to me. Same 97 songs over and over and over again. They are still calling themselves "new" after 3 years, same old imaging....ya da...ya da ...ya da......... Can anyone say that they could listen to this station on a regular basis? They lack the 5,000 song rotation of True Oldies 106.7 and have a worse rotation that some other Atlanta radio stations....

 

[Biz Listener]

What I hear of 97.1 the River sounds dead to me. Same 97 songs over and over and over again. They are still calling themselves "new" after 3 years, same old imaging....ya da...ya da ...ya da......... Can anyone say that they could listen to this station on a regular basis? They lack the 5,000 song rotation of True Oldies 106.7 and have a worse rotation that some other Atlanta radio stations....

But most of the songs on that 5,000 song rotation suck! A station that has a 5,000 song rotation but 4,947 of them suck is a station that sucks!

You can't get much worse than having a lot of different songs that suck.

 

[Goodtimesandgreatoldies]

Biz Listener...that is your opinion. These songs would not have been popular for 40+ years if the masses thought that they "sucked"..... I guess that the majority rules! These Oldies But Goodies are timeless and beloved by many!

 

[BIGSTICK]

Biz Listener...that is your opinion. These songs would not have been popular for 40+ years if the masses thought that they "sucked"..... I guess that the majority rules! These Oldies But Goodies are timeless and beloved by many!

Come one, even you have to agree this station is extremely
monotinous.

 

[Goodtimesandgreatoldies]

No, I and many others disagree. I hear great songs on True Oldies 106.7. They do play the 5,000 song playlist with very few repeats. Scott Shannon is very good as well along with the local guys too.

 

[jabba17]

Biz Listener...that is your opinion. These songs would not have been popular for 40+ years if the masses thought that they "sucked"..... I guess that the majority rules! These Oldies But Goodies are timeless and beloved by many!

Come one, even you have to agree this station is extremely
monotinous.

It's beginning to sound more and more like River without the AOR...but still better than Fox/Cool at the end...of course that's not saying much.

Brent: What happened? You were all over True Oldies when they flipped...or have they burned you out too?

 

[Biz Listener]

Biz Listener...that is your opinion. These songs would not have been popular for 40+ years if the masses thought that they "sucked"..... I guess that the majority rules! These Oldies But Goodies are timeless and beloved by many!

Tell you what. How about if I limit myself to only posting "oldies suck" every time you make another post or thread about how great the oldies station or Spiff is? Is that fair? I won't post any "oldies suck" posts except in direct response to how often you repeat "I love the oldies".

Of course that would mean I'd have to triple the number of "oldies suck" posts I make.

Come one, even you have to agree this station is extremely monotinous.

Not for me, not when my personal TSL for that station is never more than 10 minutes.

 

[BIGSTICK]

Biz Listener...that is your opinion. These songs would not have been popular for 40+ years if the masses thought that they "sucked"..... I guess that the majority rules! These Oldies But Goodies are timeless and beloved by many!

Come one, even you have to agree this station is extremely
monotinous.

It's beginning to sound more and more like River without the AOR...but still better than Fox/Cool at the end...of course that's not saying much.

Brent: What happened? You were all over True Oldies when they flipped...or have they burned you out too?

No, I love 106.7, I thought he was still referring to the River. I was replying to Bizlistener.
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