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New Class C coming to town on 88.1 Mhz

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KLOP, Ocean Park, has filed an application with the FCC for a Class C FM which will cover 1/2 of this market, pumping out 84,000 watts ERP @651 meters HAAT, transmitting West of Olympia at:
46 58 22 Lat N
123 8 17 Long W

This facility will operate on channel 201, 88.1 MHz, and will force Pacific Lutheran University (KPLU) to shut off their long-standing 120 watt translator serving West Seattle, Des Moines, and surrounding area.

KLOP's studio will be located in California (so much for localism):

http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getattachment_exh.cgi?exhibit_id=414743

And here's the contor map showing that the 60 dbu, 50, 50 service:

http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getattachment_exh.cgi?exhibit_id=414744

KLOP is part of the K-LOVE Christian network. Get ready for a little preachin'.
But this might be better than our friends in Twin Falls, Idaho......Calvary Chapel on channel 205. ::)
 
Wow, what a "shoe-horn" job! I hope both KPLU and KOIN challenge their calculations and at least tie it up for a while. Like we really need a class C K-LOVE here?
 
I'm not sure what KPLU can do in this case to oppose the application, as Translators are secondary and have no rights with relation to a class C Primary. KOIN maybe able to challenge something, if they are willing or even in an area that is not well served by channel 6. It would depend upon where their Grade A and B contours show up in relation to the proposed K-Love station.

It would be sad to see long-standing service for the W Seattle area deleted in favor of this station from the south Washington coast. I don't consider that in the public interest.
 
You're right.. translators stand no protection against full power As, B's or C's
 
Wasn't addressing interference to their translator at 88.1, but their main signal at 88.5. I questions whether they're application correctly addresses the mininum distance separation for a second adjacent channel. I've been at this a long time, and understand the rules regarding translators, and their unprotected service.
 
Kelly said:
Wasn't addressing interference to their translator at 88.1, but their main signal at 88.5. I questions whether they're application correctly addresses the mininum distance separation for a second adjacent channel....
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Interesting note Kelly. I agree that there may be hope in fighting KLOP on the 2nd Adj rule; the problem lies within the spread or distance between the two transmission points. KPLU is just too far away to push off this invasion, because they're broadcasting from King County. If KPLU can work something that shows the data differently and then shows the proposal crossing over the KPLU contour lines, perhaps there's a chance. There's also a lot of water down in the sound sound, all of which won't help KPLU on this issue.

The other angle is to hit this thing up on the COL issue, although you have correctly stated that the rules stipulate contour protection for NCE's. I'm sure their legal team is looking at this now.

The bottom line I see in this case is that all KLOP has to do is: Amend their proposal if there's any overlap problem, by reducing height and/or power just enough to then "protect KPLU" on 88.5 fm.

In the end, they'll still be able to wing a really good signal into the south sound/Tacoma/Olympia area, and K-Love will also be heard in parts of Seattle too.
 
I agree that they could reduce heigh or ERP to qualify as a C3 and probably make the Mininum Distance Separation, but currently an argument can be made that there is too much overlap to KPLU with their existing application. It won't stop K-LOVE from having the application granted eventually, but worth the effort in throwing tacks under their wheels.

My observations to stations currently built in the area of the South Western mountain range such as KNBQ, etc, is their predictable lack of signal to several East, and South East communities such as Issaquah, Kent, Auburn, Maple Valley, Renton, and most of Snohomish County because of terrain. Whereas those stations get a rim-shot signal in the Seattle DMA, they don't have even close to signal parity market wide with stations on Cougar or West Tiger. Even though the 70dBu predicted brushes downtown Seattle, they don't have enough field strength to get decent building penetration in Seattle. The other problem with those transmission site locations is that Kent, Auburn, and Maple Valley are HIGH Arbitron diary return regions, and terrain cuts anyone out of those areas due to the Valley blocking signals from the South-Western hill stations.
 
Ok, guys, how 'bout this: PLU recently received a construction permit to operate a new Beam Tilt operation lowering their HAAT to 707 and increasing effective radiated power
(ERP) to 68,000 watts. In my opinion, this was done specifically to, in theory, create less interference between the impending move of KMIH (88.9 app.) and KPLU, 400 khz away as a second-adjacency.

With 68,000 watts at 707 HAAT, the KPLU interfering 100 dbu (50,10) contour is 12.972 kilometers away. The rules say that the KLOP 60 dbu service cannot cross into the KPLU 100 dbu, which, if you look at the maps, it's close but not crossing.

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1136995.html

On the reverse side, the KPLU 60 dbu service cannot cross into the KLOP 100 dbu contour. If KLOP can be 13.478 kilometers away (KLOP's 100 dbu) from the KPLU 60 dbu, which it looks like it is, this thing will work! Note that the engineering work was done by the super-smart P.E. Doug Vernier at V-Soft Communications.

So, in my opinion, we'll be hearing lots of Positivity and Encouragement on Channel 201, including Prayer Requests Yeah...right..... ;D ::)

Check it out! http://www.klove.com/
 
Pretty sure that there won't be any issues with technical coverage interference as you guys have so well discussed, but the KCMS crew will be less than delighted. This could rob them of a share point 12+ in the same way that CCU brackets The End with the Funkey Monkey.
 
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