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New Concept For Oldies!

Interestinng concept..but it seems that you'd have a 50s station the first week, a 60s station the second, a 70s station the third, then 80s, 90s and 2000s. Not sure how that would play.
 
I gotta hear it first. Sounds like a daily version of his famous "History of Rock N Roll" production.
 
lash said:
From legendary programmer Bill Drake

www.top40timeclock.com


Sounds like a great idea. I think that the key word there is "charts". That's something that terrestrial radio has pretty much ignored for years. I don't think that playing '70s back-to-back with '50s would work, though. Maybe an hour of '50s, then an hour of '60s, etc. Listeners could plan their day, like we do with our favorite TV shows.
 
TheFonz said:
lash said:
From legendary programmer Bill Drake

www.top40timeclock.com


Sounds like a great idea. I think that the key word there is "charts". That's something that terrestrial radio has pretty much ignored for years. I don't think that playing '70s back-to-back with '50s would work, though. Maybe an hour of '50s, then an hour of '60s, etc. Listeners could plan their day, like we do with our favorite TV shows.

how much do u think today's radio listeners care about *charts*?
 
now that is a ridiculous statement

dunno if U ever check it out but satellite has a miniscue fraction of the listeners terrestrial radio does

u like satellite that is wonderful, go listen 2 it. but knock off the obviously outlandish and stupid claims like **radio doesn't have many listeners**
 
radiofriend1 said:
u like satellite that is wonderful, go listen 2 it. but knock off the obviously outlandish and stupid claims like **radio doesn't have many listeners**

Let me re-phrase that. Today's terrestrial MUSIC radio doesn't have many listeners.
 
You still didn't get it right. Try 150 million listeners. Then your close.

Satt. radio is really not a player. Tried of hearing about it.
 
13 plus million subscribers, 26 million listeners, and not a player? LOL Wake up!! Any media service that has those kind of numbers is a player. DISH & DirecTV have 27 million subs, are they not a player in tv either? These radio subscribers are huge radio fans- they PAY for it, the 150 million terrestrial listeners? You'd be lucky if 20% give a flying leap about their local stations, and most arent too happy with what product is delievered to them. Go ahead ignore a service that is adding 3 million subs a year.....real smart. :D
 
TheFonz said:
radiofriend1 said:
u like satellite that is wonderful, go listen 2 it. but knock off the obviously outlandish and stupid claims like **radio doesn't have many listeners**

Let me re-phrase that. Today's terrestrial MUSIC radio doesn't have many listeners.

You are still horribly wrong. Music radio reaches over 90% of the 18-54 year old population each week.

Why do you make stuff up that is so obviously a lie?
 
AZJoe said:
13 plus million subscribers,

Sales off 40% in November! Now that is a big growth sector.

26 million listeners, and not a player?

You are drinking the kool aid. Most sat receivers are in cars. Most people drive alone. Less than a third of radio listening is done in the car, so 13 million subscribers listen to terrestrial 75% of the time, per studies. And satellite has less than a half-share of national radio listening. It is not a player against terrestrial. It is a separate, and very uncertain, separate niche.

LOL Wake up!! Any media service that has those kind of numbers is a player. DISH & DirecTV have 27 million subs, are they not a player in tv either? These radio subscribers are huge radio fans- they PAY for it, the 150 million terrestrial listeners?

More like 240 million. 94% of all 12+ Americans use terrestrial radio.

You'd be lucky if 20% give a flying leap about their local stations, and most arent too happy with what product is delievered to them.

You have no proof of this, so you are obviously making up a "truth" that makes you happy.

Go ahead ignore a service that is adding 3 million subs a year.....real smart. :D

Sales are off, the stock of XM is off 70% from its high, and Sirius is near an all time low. This is because investors do not think they are going to make it, and are shorting the stocks like mad.
 
DavidEduardo said:
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You are still horribly wrong. Music radio reaches over 90% of the 18-54 year old population each week.

That's not the audience that Bill Drake is looking for. Your argument is with him, not me. Maybe you should have read his article before you posted.


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Sales are off, the stock of XM is off 70% from its high, and Sirius is near an all time low. This is because investors do not think they are going to make it, and are shorting the stocks like mad.

To be fair, the major broadcast stocks are off their highs by similar amounts as well.
 
TheFonz said:
DavidEduardo said:
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You are still horribly wrong. Music radio reaches over 90% of the 18-54 year old population each week.

That's not the audience that Bill Drake is looking for. Your argument is with him, not me. Maybe you should have read his article before you posted.


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read the article. luv bill drake for his legendary work..............THEN.

today is today. we can disagree with him and still respect the legend he is. but his concept is flawed. sorry.
 
Sorry to burst your bubble, but 80% of sat radio subscribers no longer listen to terrestrial radio at all, and I got that from an insider. Other studies show that both XM and Sirius have a little over 2 listeners per radio, and both are offered via either DirecTV or DISH systems in the homes. In home use/availablity of sat radios is over 40% now with plug -n-plays. Hate all you want, thats cool, terrestrial radio needs it defenders I guess, and its state of economic well being isnt so fantastic either. Of course free radio hates any competition, but any competition will simply make it change and become better, and we sure need that.
 
It's interesting that we're applauding Drake for what he did "then" while saying that he has no place in the modern radio world.

KRTH and the tight oldies playlist was a Drake-consultancy invention, excellently implemented by the late Mike Phillips.

The programmers on this very board are the ones still adhering to the Drake small/tight oldies playlist format, to the exclusion of anything else.

Now, he's thinking outside the box, and they want to relegate him to the dustheap of legendary history.

The usufructs of Drake, I guess, is all that matters.
 
AZJoe said:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but 80% of sat radio subscribers no longer listen to terrestrial radio at all, and I got that from an insider. Other studies show that both XM and Sirius have a little over 2 listeners per radio, and both are offered via either DirecTV or DISH systems in the homes. In home use/availablity of sat radios is over 40% now with plug -n-plays. Hate all you want, thats cool, terrestrial radio needs it defenders I guess, and its state of economic well being isnt so fantastic either. Of course free radio hates any competition, but any competition will simply make it change and become better, and we sure need that.

A Bridge Ratings study shows that satellte subscribers are heavy users of terrestrial radio as well. And since less than a third of radio listening is in-car and the vast majority of satellite installs are OEM or fixed after market car installs, the other two thirds of listening is to terrestrial radio.

The XM and Sirius on satellite are seldom listened to, just like DMX before them. On many subscriptions, the music channels are extra... I pay over $100 a month for DTV and do not have them in any of the packages.

Again, Satellite radio gets less than 0.5% of listening. And there are real investor doubts as to the survivability of the satellite system or model. Today's headline is about sales being off horribly and the stocks are way off their highs.

Hey, try to use a satellite radio indoors. Or in an office. I programmed 5 XM channels, and in our offices, we could not get a signal! Or try to get them outside the areas where there are land repeaters... very iffy. Pray for no clouds or no rain.
 
Its amazing to me that Sirius and XM will be considered so well programmed. Whose programming those channels? Look at who they are. All former radio programmers, who you would call washed up if they weren't with Satt. radio now.

How can you judge Drake's format before you've even heard it?

Post your resumes boy's or shut up!
 
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