I heard a rumor that a new country station will be signing on after Christmas. Does anyone know if there is truth to this. I hope not because we already have too many country stations.
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new country station in okc?
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Ok if that was the case lets list out the stations who might would flip.
KKWD back to KBull?
KQOB-Back to The Bull?
KHBZ-back to KEBC?
KZLS-to sign on as country? (I heard AC on this one)
KOMA- to Renda's Gator Country format?
KOKC- to classic country?
KKWD back to KBull?
KQOB-Back to The Bull?
KHBZ-back to KEBC?
KZLS-to sign on as country? (I heard AC on this one)
KOMA- to Renda's Gator Country format?
KOKC- to classic country?
Ughh.. Another country station? MAYBE red-dirt on 105.3 or this new thing might make some sense or classic country on 1520 or 930. Otherwise I just can't see another country in this market. (much more stupid things have happened in this market though!)
My guess is it would be Citidel trying to knock down Twisters numbers with a new country format.
I was hearing that the station would be on a new frequency.
OKCRadioGuy said:
Hey OKC-
Youre right man, I can't see another country station anywhere in Oklahoma much less OKC! For cryin' out loud gang, play something progressively outside the paradig-um!!! Not everybody in Oklahoma is a goatroper, with all due respect to my goatroping friends. Country has it's place but man we just seemed to be saturated with the country format. I mean we can't all sell Chevy's. I'm probably reacting more from a 'burned out' standpoint rather than from a business standpoint, but to be fair, if all the audience is exposed to is country then that's all they're going to listen to. Does any of this make sense? This damned shingle medicine may have scewed my perception of the galaxy.
Bob O
I agree that OKC and Oklahoma in general has far too many country stations. I would like to see a diversity in formats in this area. As a question, what format would any of you like to see in Oklahoma?
C
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If the economy dictates format...with current radio economics, blues oughtta be the runaway hit of 2009.
O' Shea: appreciate your comments on Country radio...goatroper blasts and all!!
In your case, roping the goat is only the first step in its care and handling...
O' Shea: appreciate your comments on Country radio...goatroper blasts and all!!
In your case, roping the goat is only the first step in its care and handling...
At risk of offending folks for two different reasons (Oh, boy, oh, boy, I'm stealing some of Count Bob-O's trip)...
Am I the only one, or does anybody else here think that unless one believes in Intelligent Creation for our industry, we're about to undergo business proof of Darwin's theories. The more I read about all the format scrambling ... and see market after market where the top five players each share between 3 and 6 percent of the audience -- with the however-many stations below that getting God only knows what kind of hopeless FRACTIONS of points -- the more I'm thinking we're aboout due for survival of the fittest to set in, with a LOT of stations just going away. I've kinda felt it for quite awhile, but anymore I'm really convinced: there are just too damned many stations.
Be thankful you can bash my weird thinking; otherwise, you might go off on your cousin Herbie at tomoro's big family dinner. :
Am I the only one, or does anybody else here think that unless one believes in Intelligent Creation for our industry, we're about to undergo business proof of Darwin's theories. The more I read about all the format scrambling ... and see market after market where the top five players each share between 3 and 6 percent of the audience -- with the however-many stations below that getting God only knows what kind of hopeless FRACTIONS of points -- the more I'm thinking we're aboout due for survival of the fittest to set in, with a LOT of stations just going away. I've kinda felt it for quite awhile, but anymore I'm really convinced: there are just too damned many stations.
Be thankful you can bash my weird thinking; otherwise, you might go off on your cousin Herbie at tomoro's big family dinner. :
kudzooter said:At risk of offending folks for two different reasons (Oh, boy, oh, boy, I'm stealing some of Count Bob-O's trip)...
Am I the only one, or does anybody else here think that unless one believes in Intelligent Creation for our industry, we're about to undergo business proof of Darwin's theories. The more I read about all the format scrambling ... and see market after market where the top five players each share between 3 and 6 percent of the audience -- with the however-many stations below that getting God only knows what kind of hopeless FRACTIONS of points -- the more I'm thinking we're aboout due for survival of the fittest to set in, with a LOT of stations just going away. I've kinda felt it for quite awhile, but anymore I'm really convinced: there are just too damned many stations.
Be thankful you can bash my weird thinking; otherwise, you might go off on your cousin Herbie at tomoro's big family dinner. :
Der Zoot-
To be completely honest, I believe you're right. I studied economics for my three years in college. I was so damn smart I skipped my senior year for a career in radio. Apparently Cambridge economics legend John Maynard Keynes' "gloom and doom" economic prophecy never occured to me. It would certainly have applied to the radio medium. John Kenneth Galbraith, who recently died at age 97 from natural causes, had penned the Law of Diminshing Returns among others. It states that "As we add equal extra units of a variable input into some other fixed input, the extra output increases. However, after a certain period of time we may observe that the extra output caused by each last variable unit becomes less and less". That would certainly apply to radio! Then theres the "beautiful mind" of John Forbes Nash Jr. who is currently a senior researcher in the Mathematics Department at Princeton University who basically stated we need to regulate. You should read his work of genius "E
Bob Oshea said:kudzooter said:At risk of offending folks for two different reasons (Oh, boy, oh, boy, I'm stealing some of Count Bob-O's trip)...
Am I the only one, or does anybody else here think that unless one believes in Intelligent Creation for our industry, we're about to undergo business proof of Darwin's theories. The more I read about all the format scrambling ... and see market after market where the top five players each share between 3 and 6 percent of the audience -- with the however-many stations below that getting God only knows what kind of hopeless FRACTIONS of points -- the more I'm thinking we're aboout due for survival of the fittest to set in, with a LOT of stations just going away. I've kinda felt it for quite awhile, but anymore I'm really convinced: there are just too damned many stations.
Be thankful you can bash my weird thinking; otherwise, you might go off on your cousin Herbie at tomoro's big family dinner. :
Der Zoot-
To be completely honest, I believe you're right. I studied economics for my three years in college. I was so damn smart I skipped my senior year for a career in radio. Apparently Cambridge economics legend John Maynard Keynes' "gloom and doom" economic prophecy never occured to me. It would certainly have applied to the radio medium. John Kenneth Galbraith, who recently died at age 97 from natural causes, had penned the Law of Diminshing Returns among others. It states that "As we add equal extra units of a variable input into some other fixed input, the extra output increases. However, after a certain period of time we may observe that the extra output caused by each last variable unit becomes less and less". That would certainly apply to radio! Then theres the "beautiful mind" of John Forbes Nash Jr. who is currently a senior researcher in the Mathematics Department at Princeton University who basically stated we need to regulate. You should read his work of genius "E
To conclude this son of a bitch, (goddamned computer seized up) You should read Nash's "Equilibriums, etc". By the way it wasn't Keynes who penned the "Gloom & Doom Theory" it was Malthus,who was hopefully not right. But Keynes did warn against unchecked Capitalism because of the almost inherent corruption pitfalls. In any event you're probably wondering why all these men were named John or if I'm on acid. The answer is I don't know. You would have to ask their mothers. But they all were in favor of heavy regulation! Der Zoot is probably right...there are just too damn many radio stations and it's cachting up with us. Radio is a buggy whip medium in that, with the advent of televison radio almost went away. Then somebody got a great idea. Play music!!! So I say that radio is a medium whose economic underpinnings are so delicate and geared for a robust economy with limited competiton that a near depression era economy will damn near tank a lot of the industry. They depend on advertising dollars alone and unfortuantely advertising budgets are the first to be slashed.
Happy Thanksgiving Gang, pray for our nation.
Bob O'Shea
Zoot & Coop-
Here is the Law of Diminishing Returns: As we add equal extra units of a variable input into some other fixed input the total output increases. However, after a certain period of time, we may observe that the extra output caused by each last variable unit becomes less and less! That is the law as laid down by I believe Galbraith. It may have been Keynes, but Keynesian economics was geared for socialism/communism and we all know how well thats working out! As for the goat, how would you know so much about it's "care and handling"? I think discussing that procedure in this forum will be, at the very least, giving up trade secrets. ;D
Count O'Shea
Here is the Law of Diminishing Returns: As we add equal extra units of a variable input into some other fixed input the total output increases. However, after a certain period of time, we may observe that the extra output caused by each last variable unit becomes less and less! That is the law as laid down by I believe Galbraith. It may have been Keynes, but Keynesian economics was geared for socialism/communism and we all know how well thats working out! As for the goat, how would you know so much about it's "care and handling"? I think discussing that procedure in this forum will be, at the very least, giving up trade secrets. ;D
Count O'Shea
By the way gang, it was Thomas Malthus, along with three other prominent middle to late 18th century economists of the day that came up with the law of diminishing returns. While Malthus was considred a 'gloom & doomist', his economic laws are still alarmingly referred to today by leading contemporary economists. The problem with Malthus was that he only saw the technological and medical limitations of his day and the social upheaval of 1798 Europe and the newly forming nation we call the United States of America. A social experiment that continues to baffle the world and surpise present day economists and mathemiticians by it's resiliency to tough times and an almost preternatural ability to self correct despite all the corruption and, please forgive me for this, hard core religious dogma. The two most destructive forces in a democratic republic of states. Thank God the founding fathers had the presence of mind to separate church and state. I apologize if I aggravate with continued reference to economics. It's just that I've become a bit rusty at it after lo these many years. The spring of 1972 came and went in a blur.
Lord O'Shea
Lord O'Shea
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