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New House, Dubstep and Trap show on The Beat- SA

Show begins this Saturday morning @ 2am. Here's hoping it leans more House than the other two. ;D

For those of you all that are not familiar with the three genres

From Wikipedia-

House music is a genre of electronic dance music that originated in the American city of Chicago in the early 1980s. It was initially popularized circa 1984 in Chicago, but beginning in 1985, it fanned out to other major cities such as Detroit, Toronto, New York City, San Francisco, Boston, Montreal, Manchester,[1] Miami, London,[1] and Paris. It then began to influence popular music in Europe, with songs such as "House Nation" by House Master Boyz and the Rude Boy Of House (1987) and "Doctorin' The House" by Coldcut (1988) in the pop charts. Since the early to mid-1990s, house music has been infused in mainstream pop and dance music worldwide.

Dubstep (/ˈdʌbstɛp/) is a genre of electronic dance music that originated in South London, England, United Kingdom. It emerged in the late 1990s as a development within a lineage of related styles such as 2-step garage, broken beat, drum and bass (jungle), and dub reggae.[1] In the UK the origins of the genre can be traced back to the growth of the Jamaican sound system party scene in the early 1980s.[1][2] The music generally features syncopated drum and percussion patterns with bass lines that contain prominent sub bass frequencies.

Trap music is a music genre which originated in the early 2000's from Southern hip-hop and crunk music. While its sound and influences have undergone a number of developments since its inception, it can often be characterized by its sweeping sub-bass, crisp snares, scratching, heavy 808 basslines, layered synths, repeated samples, and sped up hi-hats.[1] Initially an underground genre, trap music first experienced mainstream exposure in 2003 after the success of a number of landmark albums, including T.I.'s Trap Muzik, Young Jeezy's Let's Get It: Thug Motivation 101 and Gucci Mane's Trap House. In 2010, trap music experienced a renewed success with releases by artists including Waka Flocka Flame, Rick Ross and Gucci Mane.

In 2012, a new movement of electronic music producers and DJs emerged who began incorporating elements of trap music into their works. This helped expand its popularity among electronic music fans. A number of stylistic offshoots of trap developed, which in the latter half of 2012 gained a rise in viral popularity and made a noticeable impact on dance music
 
saradio1 said:
Show begins this Saturday morning @ 2am. Here's hoping it leans more House than the other two. ;D

For those of you all that are not familiar with the three genres

From Wikipedia-

House music is a genre of electronic dance music that originated in the American city of Chicago in the early 1980s. It was initially popularized circa 1984 in Chicago, but beginning in 1985, it fanned out to other major cities such as Detroit, Toronto, New York City, San Francisco, Boston, Montreal, Manchester,[1] Miami, London,[1] and Paris. It then began to influence popular music in Europe, with songs such as "House Nation" by House Master Boyz and the Rude Boy Of House (1987) and "Doctorin' The House" by Coldcut (1988) in the pop charts. Since the early to mid-1990s, house music has been infused in mainstream pop and dance music worldwide.

Dubstep (/ˈdʌbstɛp/) is a genre of electronic dance music that originated in South London, England, United Kingdom. It emerged in the late 1990s as a development within a lineage of related styles such as 2-step garage, broken beat, drum and bass (jungle), and dub reggae.[1] In the UK the origins of the genre can be traced back to the growth of the Jamaican sound system party scene in the early 1980s.[1][2] The music generally features syncopated drum and percussion patterns with bass lines that contain prominent sub bass frequencies.

Trap music is a music genre which originated in the early 2000's from Southern hip-hop and crunk music. While its sound and influences have undergone a number of developments since its inception, it can often be characterized by its sweeping sub-bass, crisp snares, scratching, heavy 808 basslines, layered synths, repeated samples, and sped up hi-hats.[1] Initially an underground genre, trap music first experienced mainstream exposure in 2003 after the success of a number of landmark albums, including T.I.'s Trap Muzik, Young Jeezy's Let's Get It: Thug Motivation 101 and Gucci Mane's Trap House. In 2010, trap music experienced a renewed success with releases by artists including Waka Flocka Flame, Rick Ross and Gucci Mane.

In 2012, a new movement of electronic music producers and DJs emerged who began incorporating elements of trap music into their works. This helped expand its popularity among electronic music fans. A number of stylistic offshoots of trap developed, which in the latter half of 2012 gained a rise in viral popularity and made a noticeable impact on dance music

at 2 a m? Too late for a show to be successful, unless you are in the NYC, or Las Vegas. San Antonio is not Las Vegas or the big apple. Good idea, wrong time slot. KBBT should put this on at 10 pm or no later than midnight.

What's next Austin's Hypersonic radio comes to 102.3 the Beat?
You can only hear that on 103.5 HD-2 or stream
 
willdav713 said:
At 2 a m? Too late for a show to be successful, unless you are in the NYC, or Las Vegas. San Antonio is not Las Vegas or the big apple. Good idea, wrong time slot. KBBT should put this on at 10 pm or no later than midnight.


I somewhat agree.

And I just tuned in and KBBT is regular programming. Perhaps you meant next Saturday SARadio?
 
I would expect a Quiet Storm to run during the 2 AM hours.
Think about it, going home from the Clubs after last call.
I am sure someone can get blitzed after 2 AM in Vegas or the Big Apple (unless Mayor Bloomberg outlawed that down there) oh wait that was for 2 liter soda pops.
 
willdav713 said:
I would expect a Quiet Storm to run during the 2 AM hours.
Think about it, going home from the Clubs after last call.
I am sure someone can get blitzed after 2 AM in Vegas or the Big Apple (unless Mayor Bloomberg outlawed that down there) oh wait that was for 2 liter soda pops.

Huh?

Just by judging from some of your prior post about wanting Classic Country, Oldies and other 50+ formats, makes me believe you are not in 18-34 demo. The last anything young adults wants to hear on a Friday/Saturday night is slow ass tunes. Back in the day, KTFM had show called "The Wake Up Show". It aired on Saturday and Sunday mornings starting at 2a-6a. It was all Progressive Dance/House. This when SA was market #37. SA is now market #28 soon to be in the Top 25. Which means, you don't have to be in Vegas or NYC.


Posted by: Kevan-And I just tuned in and KBBT is regular programming. Perhaps you meant next Saturday SARadio?

Kevan, I believe The Beat meant Sunday at 2am. They have several twitter post saying tune in after their broadcast from the Empire, which is tonight. Also, if you go The Beat's Facebook page, there's a pic. It's shows The Beat in pink lettering with a splash of blue. The background has club lights. Anyhow, it's says, it's coming... Saturday at 2am. It almost sounds like a format change but I heard one of the jocks talking about it over the week. Otherwise, I would have thought it was a format tweak.
 
saradio1 said:
SA is now market #28 soon to be in the Top 25.

I don't see dance fans buying up all those new houses they're building around S.A. A lot of growth is fueled by Mexican money. Rich Mexicans are moving here because their money has made their kids kidnapping targets in Mexico. The easiest way to get a visa for the entire family to stay in the US is to promise to start a business. These are not dance radio fans. There are maybe two dance radio stations is all of Mexico.
 
saradio1 said:
willdav713 said:
I would expect a Quiet Storm to run during the 2 AM hours.
Think about it, going home from the Clubs after last call.
I am sure someone can get blitzed after 2 AM in Vegas or the Big Apple (unless Mayor Bloomberg outlawed that down there) oh wait that was for 2 liter soda pops.

Huh?

Just by judging from some of your prior post about wanting Classic Country, Oldies and other 50+ formats, makes me believe you are not in 18-34 demo. The last anything young adults wants to hear on a Friday/Saturday night is slow ass tunes. Back in the day, KTFM had show called "The Wake Up Show". It aired on Saturday and Sunday mornings starting at 2a-6a. It was all Progressive Dance/House. This when SA was market #37. SA is now market #28 soon to be in the Top 25. Which means, you don't have to be in Vegas or NYC.

That's because San Antonio has the demographics in those 50+ age. Besides Vegas and maybe places in Florida, I don't think I've heard a nostalgic format on FM in any other city besides San Antonio and the others mentioned above.

I agree with those who are saying this should have been done at an earlier time like around 10 or 11pm. Everyone's at iHop or Jims after 2am, I doubt anyone's going to be dub-steppin' while eating tacos.
 
fredcantu said:
saradio1 said:
SA is now market #28 soon to be in the Top 25.

I don't see dance fans buying up all those new houses they're building around S.A. A lot of growth is fueled by Mexican money. Rich Mexicans are moving here because their money has made their kids kidnapping targets in Mexico. The easiest way to get a visa for the entire family to stay in the US is to promise to start a business. These are not dance radio fans. There are maybe two dance radio stations is all of Mexico.

Mexican nationals are moving to all over Texas and not just SA. To say, a lot of growth is due to Mexican money is pretty weak. A link to your claims would be great. Otherwise, it's irrelevant and holds no truth to your claim.

Btw, hottest song right now is the Harlem Shake....Not found on Billboard Top 10 but it's the hottest song online. Many stations throughout the country have now added it to their playlist. In addition, Billboard will now include video stream(Youtube, Vevo, etc.) as a new component to their charts. This is huge as many hits are now found online before hitting the airwaves. Times have changed and The Beat is well aware to stay ahead of their competitor. Who would of thought five year's ago The Beat would be playing David Guetta, Swedish House Mafia, Calvin Harris and many other Top 40 hits that have been produced by EDM dj's? That's right, EDM dj's!!

Harlem Shake-baauer(Trap)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk1_DbbzSdY


Posted by: sdh483-That's because San Antonio has the demographics in those 50+ age. Besides Vegas and maybe places in Florida, I don't think I've heard a nostalgic format on FM in any other city besides San Antonio and the others mentioned above.

I agree with those who are saying this should have been done at an earlier time like around 10 or 11pm. Everyone's at iHop or Jims after 2am, I doubt anyone's going to be dub-steppin' while eating tacos.

The nostalgic format is on the FM dial due to the owner's personal love for the format. John Barger is a business man and is waiting for the right offer to come around.
 
saradio1 said:
willdav713 said:
I would expect a Quiet Storm to run during the 2 AM hours.
Think about it, going home from the Clubs after last call.
I am sure someone can get blitzed after 2 AM in Vegas or the Big Apple (unless Mayor Bloomberg outlawed that down there) oh wait that was for 2 liter soda pops.

Huh?

Just by judging from some of your prior post about wanting Classic Country, Oldies and other 50+ formats, makes me believe you are not in 18-34 demo. The last anything young adults wants to hear on a Friday/Saturday night is slow ass tunes. Back in the day, KTFM had show called "The Wake Up Show". It aired on Saturday and Sunday mornings starting at 2a-6a. It was all Progressive Dance/House. This when SA was market #37. SA is now market #28 soon to be in the Top 25. Which means, you don't have to be in Vegas or NYC.



KSJL had Slow Jams with Tommy Young after the Mix show with Ricco and D-Street in the 90's, his slot with KSJL started at 11pm on the weeknights, and 12 or 1 AM on Saturdays. House Nation (which I listened to at the time) was on Saturday Nights at 8pm to 11pm followed by Electrorythmns on KSYM (who had the first Urban Contemporary format slot on FM in San Antonio.)

What years did the "Wake Up Show" air? I missed that one.

Just an FYI, I am 32. I am in both demos. The demo for Classic Hits, Classic Country, and Rhythmic CHR (which is 18-34) even though I am in the latter part of that demo.

Do you remember KTFM's Ultimix show they had back in 1992? It aired around 7 or 8 pm or so. I don't remember what exactly they called the show back then. But it was during the Hot 103 days.
 
Posted by: willdav713-KSJL had Slow Jams with Tommy Young after the Mix show with Ricco and D-Street in the 90's, his slot with KSJL started at 11pm on the weeknights, and 12 or 1 AM on Saturdays. House Nation (which I listened to at the time) was on Saturday Nights at 8pm to 11pm followed by Electrorythmns on KSYM (who had the first Urban Contemporary format slot on FM in San Antonio.)

Yawn...KSJL is no more due to lack of support. Also, KSJL was prior to PPM's. Nowadays, it wouldn't have last as long as it did on FM.

KTFM had a mixshow called the Thunderstorm which aired at 10pm for a solid hour. As for the Wake Up Show, I still have tapes. Not sure what year it was but I am thinking late 90's early.

Anyhow, just announced, The Beat transforms to EDM for two solid hours!! Woo Hoo!!! ;D This is awhole new era for 98.5 The Beat.
 
saradio1 said:
To say, a lot of growth is due to Mexican money is pretty weak. A link to your claims would be great. Otherwise, it's irrelevant and holds no truth to your claim.

Like the dance fans always provide a link to back up their claims of the format's popularity and commercial success. :D
 
fredcantu said:
saradio1 said:
To say, a lot of growth is due to Mexican money is pretty weak. A link to your claims would be great. Otherwise, it's irrelevant and holds no truth to your claim.

Like the dance fans always provide a link to back up their claims of the format's popularity and commercial success. :D
Umm...what do you think is playing on Top 40 radio?
 
CTHank said:
saradio1 said:
Mexican nationals are moving to all over Texas and not just SA. To say, a lot of growth is due to Mexican money is pretty weak. A link to your claims would be great. Otherwise, it's irrelevant and holds no truth to your claim.
Here ya go http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/print-edition/2011/03/04/mexican-exodus-lifting-alamo-citys.html?page=all

From the same article-
Estimates are that there are approximately 100,000 people in the metro area who have come from Mexico over the last several years,” says Cisneros, adding that with these individuals comes a very significant amount of capital.

It says, over the last several years. That's a small amount of nationals moving here compared to people moving here from other cities.

Here's another article that's more recent than what you had posted-
http://www.bizjournals.com/sananton...ican-nationals-helping-to-drive.html?page=all

As for investment activity, Gatley says there has been an increase in the number of businesses purchased by Mexican nationals over the past few years.

Though San Antonio has not seen the “parade of fire sales” experienced in other markets, Gatley says some business owners have felt the distress of the recession, slow recovery and continued credit crunch.

As I mentioned earlier, the entire state has seen an increase with Mexican nationals. But to say, that home sales are due to Mexican nationals is just not true. Besides, San Antonio has also seen a large increased in college students as well. Making San Antonio the second highest in the state attending college. In case your wondering, Houston is first.

BACK TO RADIO- Even though EDM can be found throughout the day on 94.1, 96.1, 98.5, 105.3 and 105.7. It's great that it now has a full 2 hours for pure dance on a signal that covers the entire market. Props to Robbie Rob, Homie Marco and Univision Radio.
 
SARadio1 - You should try starting at least your own Internet station. You seem to be a huge proponent of dance music. :)




Anyway back to the topic, I listened for a bit last night and liked it. The Freestyle show today isn't new though, but it's still cool IMO.
 
fredcantu said:
saradio1 said:
To say, a lot of growth is due to Mexican money is pretty weak. A link to your claims would be great. Otherwise, it's irrelevant and holds no truth to your claim.

Like the dance fans always provide a link to back up their claims of the format's popularity and commercial success. :D

Here ya go-

The Explosive Growth of EDM

■Between January 2004 and June 2012, Engaged and Interested Listens and Plays (EILPs) of EDM rose from approximately 234 million to 842 million, a 260% increase.
■In 2010, 2011 and the first half of 2012, more people listened to EDM than in the previous six years combined.
■In 2004, nearly 90% of commercial radio stations played no EDM whatsoever. In 2012, only 24.5% omitted EDM completely.

Read more:
http://edmsnob.com/the-explosive-growth-of-edm/

Another blog from the Huffington Post:

Electronic Dance Music (EDM) is surging to the forefront of mainstream tastes. If you have turned on the radio, watched TV, or attended a music festival in the last several years you have likely noticed DJs and producers flooding the market. Acts like Skrillex, Deadmau5, and David Guetta have emerged from the EDM movement and achieved international popularity on an unprecedented level.

EDM has only recently stepped into the spotlight. The genre, however, is hardly young. It began as an underground movement in the 1980s. Similarly to how hip-hop crossed over into the mainstream in the late 1990s and 2000s, EDM is now coming of age, and in a big way. A generation of music fans are shifting their musical gaze from the hip-hop driven popular music that dominated the 2000s, to the polished sounds of house, trance, dubstep, glitch, breaks, and the dozens of other sub-genres that fall under the umbrella of EDM.

Read more:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/danny-feinstein/electronic-dance-music_b_2094797.html

;D

Is anyone still questioning why The Beat has jumped on the EDM scene?

Posted by: Kevan-SARadio1 - You should try starting at least your own Internet station. You seem to be a huge proponent of dance music.
Thanks for the suggestion Kevan but honestly, I just don't have the time to do so. I am a HUGE dance music listener but I love music in general. It wasn't too long ago I was listening to The Smiths, The Cure, Thrill Kill Kult among other New Wave artists from the 80's.
 
It's fascinating that this term "Engaged and Interested Listens and Plays (EILPs)" only comes up in Google in this one HuffPost article and the edmsnob.com article it quotes. Who came up with this measurement? Who uses it anyway? Let's stick with the radio and ratings terms in wider use. That's were EDM needs to succeed to make it viable as a format.
 
fredcantu said:
It's fascinating that this term "Engaged and Interested Listens and Plays (EILPs)" only comes up in Google in this one HuffPost article and the edmsnob.com article it quotes. Who came up with this measurement? Who uses it anyway? Let's stick with the radio and ratings terms in wider use. That's were EDM needs to succeed to make it viable as a format.

Again, take a look at Top 40 radio. EDM is all over it.

This is the same argument/disagreement people were having with Hip Hop..... When The Beat launched in SA, I remember several people at the station saying it wouldn't last more than 6 month and advertisers wouldn't support it. Six month is all it took for The Beat to knock the heritage station from the top. Whether you agree me or not, The Beat is staying ahead of the game. They didn't have to devote a timeslot for EDM. But they did because it's HOT and that's what young adults are listening too.

I'm done with this thread. Just glad one of the hottest stations in SA- The Beat has jumped on EDM scene. ;D
 
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