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New imaging at WSEN....WTF?

I remember not too long ago reading somewhere that WSEN got a new imaging voice...

Well, after hearing her....I have one question to ask......when are they flipping to AC?

That's what they sound like now...like every other half-baked AC station around, a la Y94, Sunny 102...you get the message.

All of a sudden, the rumors flying around about Buckley dumping the stations doesn't seem so far fetched, when you consider the changes of the last few months- dumping most of the live on-air talent for voice tracking and syndication, now this change....WTF?

I remember before I lived in the area, I used to think for being in Syracuse, WSEN did a tremendous job with oldies/classic hits/ or whatever you want to call it these days.

In the last couple years, WSEN has become a hollow shell of its former self. Someone should put it out of its misery.

Thank God for me WCBS-FM and KRTH streams....and for the car, WFBL hasn't been fouled yet....
 
In case you haven't notice, cutbacks have hurt everybody. Name me a station that hasn't scooped out a piece of their heart in the last year or two. Look at what their competition has done when it comes to cutbacks. It's not just industry-wide, it's nearly universal. That's why they call it a "recession".

Why would Buckley sell Syracuse? They're making money, and it's not like radio stations are selling at a premium these days. Buckley has a significant presence in the northeast, so they're not an orphan cluster far from home. I don't see any reason to sell, and I don't expect there to be any move in that direction in the near future.
 
Nothing personal, but I don't get the switch to the female voice for imaging, especially at WSEN. Perhaps I'll catch hell for that statement, despite the fact that I think there are some outstanding female voices that do great promo imaging and commercial reads, but it's the way I hear it.
 
Element9 said:
Nothing personal, but I don't get the switch to the female voice for imaging, especially at WSEN.

Maybe they couldn't afford to renew the retainer with the former imaging personality and she happened to be the best-sounding person they could find for whatever budget is available. Although I would think any wise voice talent would realize budgets are slim, and be reasonable enough to either lower their rates or forego their raises, rather than lose stations completely. Just a thought.

Or maybe Buckley brought in a "brainy" consultant who suggested the change in an attempt to bring in more female listeners.

It's not like they've had any changes in local management recently, so I would assume it probably wasn't a decision they wanted to make.
 
You know, I understand cutbacks, belt tightenings- these days I'm a victim of that myself- but, can it go too far?

I can understand voice tracking- the guy WSEN has on mid-days actually seems to be pretty listenable...and syndication is easily understood as well- cheaper than a live jock of any quality...but how far can they go?

It's just this new imaging package just hit a nerve with me....it makes the station sound like just another anonymous AC station that can be found anywhere these days. It seems to have absolutely no continuity with what the station has been in the past. I realize this also may not have been a local decision- but how much more could it have cost to get some imaging with some pizzazz- this new package absolutely puts me to sleep.

This may be a little off-topic here- a thread in another board tells of how WHTT in Buffalo just flipped back to classic hits- but jockless at the present time. A couple of different posters have stated how they should get some live bodies in there and quick- citing the success of Legends 102.7 in Rochester with their off the wall music mix- but live and human manned from 6AM to midnight.

WSEN seems to be going the way WHTT was when they flipped to AC a couple years ago- lifeless airstaff (what's left of them- the v/t guy seems to be the best of the lot), hohum imaging....just general indifference with the final product- but at least the GM can say "Look how I improved the bottom line!" Seems to be a case of being penny wise and pound foolish- or making the books look good for a new owner.

I hope for a miracle....that something or someone wakes up Buckley....it's not too late.

My two cents contributed.
 
biggguy said:
You know, I understand cutbacks, belt tightenings- these days I'm a victim of that myself- but, can it go too far?

It sure can. I saw on another board where people were noting how very odd it is that 95X is promoting a contest where the winner gets tickets to a Kenny Chesney concert. It's bad enough there are rumors aplenty already in the air about 95X flipping to country, and at first glance, this seems to give more weight to those rumors. But the contest is also being promoted by 93Q.

Look at the Citadel cluster... no country station, so there's no "obvious" station to give away these tickets. Aside from wondering what moron at the record company or fair authorized giving the tickets to a cluster without a country station... where would you give the tickets away?

My first choice would have been Lite Rock 105.9, since AC and country listeners often overlap... as do their artists. I'd think a much greater percentage of WLTI listeners would be familiar with Kenny Chesney than WAQX listeners. But, where would you promote the contest on WLTI? The station is on the bird for Bob & Sheri, it's on the bird for "Jayne" and it's on the bird for Delilah. Somewhere in between, you've got a whopping 3 hours of local programming. You can't realistically expect to impress clients with that, even if the promotion is the only thing the jock talks about every time he cracks the mic for those 3 hours.
Sure, you could produce recorded promos that run during the local break windows during satellite programming, but that's eating into actual revenue inventory. You could have the satellite talent record custom liners to support the promotion, but depending on program clocks, those liners might run only once an hour, it can take several weeks to have the liners delivered, and in some cases, the talent wants a cut of the action anytime specific sponsors are mentioned.

Next choice, believe it or not, might actually be ESPN Radio 1260. I do think that WNSS listeners would still be more interested in Kenny Chesney tickets than WAQX listeners. But again, it's on the bird almost all day, with the exception of 3 hours in the afternoon.

So that leaves Citadel with no option but to push these tickets on 95X and 93Q, regardless of the fact it sticks out like a sore thumb. (Well, 93Q is at least somewhat compatible, especially in this region of the country, but you'd never see a major market CHR or rock station giving away Chesney tix!)

In any event, there's your textbook example of a radio cluster cutting back too far. What if they were Bette Midler tickets instead? Citadel would have to turn it down... there's NO way they'd ever pull that kind of crap on 95X.

Listeners like having that "real" person there. They like being able to call the station and have someone answer the request line, and maybe even put the call on the air if the jock deems it entertaining enough. They like being able to call in for contests. They like having jocks who talk off-the-cuff, even if they occasionally stumble. They like jocks who can give live updates on bad weather because they're actually live. As much as radio execs think they're "fooling" the listeners, the listeners can tell the difference when someone is tracked or syndicated. Obviously, the big giveaway is when the automation crashes and the station goes dead for even just 5 minutes. Or the local request line that's suddenly replaced only at night by a toll-free number. One of my favorites: the EAS weekly/monthly test that automatically fires mid-song, rather than being manually delayed until the end of the song. But even more subtle things are still detected... the absence of request hours or spontaneous phoners... the absence of contests outside of drive times. Jock breaks that sound "too perfect" to be live, because the jock kept re-recording that voicetrack until it was flawless.
 
Pardon the scattershot. Those Chesney tickets might work better on 93Q than any other Citadel format because Country appeals to 18-49s and there might be some shared audience. Might. Could. And all that. Just a thought.

Now the WSEN issues. God help them if they're leaning to AC. As another poster brought WHTT Buffalo into play, there was a textbook lesson of what NOT to do. About four years ago WHTT, positioned as a 60s-70s-80s as "Buffalo's Greatest Hits, 104.1 WHTT" was consistently in the Top 5 Persons 25-54. Some dayparts were Top 3. The station was live 5:30 a.m. to 7 p.m. and prime hours weekends.

Following the switch to Gold based AC, WHTT lost about a third of its listeners. Wasn't pretty. As of yesterday, WHTT is Classic Hits (again) and jockless, playing primarily 70s, 60s and a few 80s hits each hour.
 
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