Has anybody tried to listen to a shortwave station using the calls WTWW yet? I read through several sources on the net that they were testing on the two frequencies that KAIJ in Dallas used before they shut down: 5755 khz at night and 9480 khz during the day. I didn't get to hear the test and I haven't heard anything about the station since and I was wondering if anybody knew when they were going to sign on?
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New Local Shortwave??
- Thread starter soundsandsports
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Does anyone know what kind of programming they intend to air?
WTWW apparently signed on today on 9480 khz. I read on the World of Radio page they would be on this week, and they made it happen around 1500 UTC from one of Glenn Hauser's buddies wrote on the net. They are also streaming at their website: www.wtww.us/pages/listen-live.php
However, from where I am, I can just barely hear it. I don't know if it is a lack of power they're putting out or if I have less than adequate equipment to try to pull it in...so it would help if some of you tried to see if you can pull it in and let me know what's up with this station.
So far I have heard Scriptures From America with Pete Peters and IRN News (sounds like a WWCR clone)
However, from where I am, I can just barely hear it. I don't know if it is a lack of power they're putting out or if I have less than adequate equipment to try to pull it in...so it would help if some of you tried to see if you can pull it in and let me know what's up with this station.
So far I have heard Scriptures From America with Pete Peters and IRN News (sounds like a WWCR clone)
soundsandsports said:
Just what we need, another dollar a holler outfit trying to pass themselves off as a "Christian" station full of crackpots and conspiracy freaks. :-\
You may be ABLE to receive shortwave from "local" stations, but to even be licensed, their antenna system must be designed with
enough directionality to as maximize radiation to the exterior of the country...that is your're not really INTENDED to be able to receive shortwave from "within". The intent of the FCC is that US citizens are to be served by AM and FM broadcast from local services,
NOT from regional or national radio services directly. You're not prohibited from listening here internally in the US, but
the original intent of this was purely for national security "propaganda" information control purposes.
One set of info for local ears, and another very carefully crafted presentation of "info"to the "outside world".
The nature of shortwave signals makes reception very spotty in the near-local region.
enough directionality to as maximize radiation to the exterior of the country...that is your're not really INTENDED to be able to receive shortwave from "within". The intent of the FCC is that US citizens are to be served by AM and FM broadcast from local services,
NOT from regional or national radio services directly. You're not prohibited from listening here internally in the US, but
the original intent of this was purely for national security "propaganda" information control purposes.
One set of info for local ears, and another very carefully crafted presentation of "info"to the "outside world".
The nature of shortwave signals makes reception very spotty in the near-local region.
So what you're saying is I'm far away from WWCR's 4 transmitters to hear them, but I'm too close to hear WTWW good or at all....I wish that technicality would work during the hours that Rush Limbaugh is on WLAC!
Thats not what he's saying at all. Most programming on the US Shortwave stations is not intended to be listened to by a American audience, that doesn't mean that it can't happen. The majority of the signal is being aimed away from away from you.
Where is this station actually located? Couldn't find anything on their website about it, but I notice that they have George Mc as their engineer, so I am assuming that they are local.
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nashbear
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Station is licensed to Lebanon. According to FCC filing, transmitter & antenna are located very near the Cumberland River in rural Wilson County.. near the Rome Community near the Smith County line.
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NashRadio
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Techguy: I'll admit I'm dumb as mud when it comes to radio tech, but how could the signal be aimed AWAY from listeners in different directions from the transmitter?
It's simply a directional antenna, much as old TV antennas were "pointed" in one direction or another.
Off one end of the antenna is "direction" (smaller elements). Off the otrher end is "reflection" ( the larger elements ).
The antenna is highly selective to pick up from one direction and reject as much as possible from the opposite direction.
At the shortwave wavelengths, antennas are much larger but the principle remains the same.
Works the same whether transmitting or receiving.
Shortwave licenses are not granted unless the prospective station has an antenna system with a specific amount of "gain"
in some particular dirction, which would be intended for the exterior of the country.
Side-splash, back-splash and other incidental lobes may be locally audible, but since shortwave induces litle ground current, and won't bounce until it hits the ionosphere, there's very little local reception, a large donut of "dead zone", then 200-300 miles out it's audible again, hopefully on other continents.
Off one end of the antenna is "direction" (smaller elements). Off the otrher end is "reflection" ( the larger elements ).
The antenna is highly selective to pick up from one direction and reject as much as possible from the opposite direction.
At the shortwave wavelengths, antennas are much larger but the principle remains the same.
Works the same whether transmitting or receiving.
Shortwave licenses are not granted unless the prospective station has an antenna system with a specific amount of "gain"
in some particular dirction, which would be intended for the exterior of the country.
Side-splash, back-splash and other incidental lobes may be locally audible, but since shortwave induces litle ground current, and won't bounce until it hits the ionosphere, there's very little local reception, a large donut of "dead zone", then 200-300 miles out it's audible again, hopefully on other continents.
D Dean said:
The antenna is designed to push the majority of the signal in one single direction, and less in other areas. This is used commonly on FM & AM as well to prevent one station from interfering with another. I don't fully know how directional antenna systems work. I see someone has already posted a brief description that explains the basic concepts pretty well
techguy1975 said:
To VASTLY oversimplify... a directional antenna consists of two or more antennas connected to the same transmitter, and arranged in such a way that the signals radiated by each antenna either cancel out, or reinforce, the signals radiated by other antennas. In effect, the station arranges to interfere with itself.
Update on WTWW: They're loud and clear as of 2230 UTC on 3/3/2010 at 9480 Khz
Pastor Peters is jumping from topic to topic as usual.
5755 should kick on around 0000 UTC (6 pm Central)
Pastor Peters is jumping from topic to topic as usual.
5755 should kick on around 0000 UTC (6 pm Central)
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