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New "Local" Show on FreeFM
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stfu said:
Oh, now why the hate? Local means local, broadcasting in the area. Local doesn't have to mean "home grown talent". I mean, Scott Muni wasn't a native New Yorker. Was Rick Dees from Los Angeles? C'mon.
Quite honestly, Big O and Dukes have experience in major markets, THEY ARE THE DEMO Free FM is looking for, and they've got talent from what I've heard from them.
If you have an in-budget alternative to them, I'm all ears.
So, are we gonna have 6 weeks of "boy, its hot out here" unoriginality from them? :
The "local" claim only means that they'll be broadcasting from Phoenix, and not LA, Vegas, and San Diego like the rest of the line-up. That may be their only positive. Sure they're the demo, but that doesn't make for a successful talk show. You have to relate to your audience, and then they have to accept you in return. They couldn't accomplish that in their last two jobs, why would anything change now.
According to the last posts about them, they didn't do a great job in their tryout. I listened to pieces of the three nights, and I got that same impression. I have to disagree with the "talent" statement based on what we heard. If that was their "A" game, then the ratings books will determine their fate.
According to the last posts about them, they didn't do a great job in their tryout. I listened to pieces of the three nights, and I got that same impression. I have to disagree with the "talent" statement based on what we heard. If that was their "A" game, then the ratings books will determine their fate.
Since Hendrie's departure from the scene, there honestly is nothing on FreeFM that I have any desire to listen to.
It all sucks.
It all sucks.
Legend City said:
Leykis will do that. I can only hope that CBS figures out a way to roll out O&A and possibly Ron and Fez.
Not just Leykis, Frosty Heidi and Frank are so terrible as well.
Well another good chance blown by CBS to add a GOOD local show. I heard the Big loOser and Daisy Duke show and was not at all impressed. Any guess on how long they will last? I give it about 100 "boy it's hot here" jokes before they get fired on their own or do to horrible ratings... great choice guys!
I want Free FM to work... why doesn't CBS?
I want Free FM to work... why doesn't CBS?
Johny947 said:Well another good chance blown by CBS to add a GOOD local show. I heard the Big loOser and Daisy Duke show and was not at all impressed. Any guess on how long they will last? I give it about 100 "boy it's hot here" jokes before they get fired on their own or do to horrible ratings... great choice guys!
I want Free FM to work... why doesn't CBS?
I think both of those comments are very unfair.
CBS DOES want Free-FM to work. Why do you think they were so quick to can Roth and sign O&A? (Well, outside of Roth being a complete and total headcase) For whatever it means, it's working if the trends are to be believed.
You're already biased against the show with your witty names, without giving it a chance to grow. They're a new show in a new market. JV and Elvis in NYC were horrible their first month or so. They developed. Same could be said for Ron and Fez, who had deal with not only developing their show, but a potential bias against one of the hosts.
A lot of shows, unless they are 20 year veterans or syndicated and "already in the saddle" will ALWAYS have a rough start.
Again, if you have an ALTERNATIVE "Good" show, that fits the budget and timeslot that Free-FM has, then mention it. Otherwise, you're just blowing hot air.
"The "local" claim only means that they'll be broadcasting from Phoenix, and not LA, Vegas, and San Diego like the rest of the line-up."
Who's broadcasting from Vegas or San Diego? Penn Gillette (the Vegas) isn't on this FreeFM and Dick and Skibba, who are also local, are the only product coming out of San Diego.
This new show will apparently be eminating from "Scottdukes" :
Who's broadcasting from Vegas or San Diego? Penn Gillette (the Vegas) isn't on this FreeFM and Dick and Skibba, who are also local, are the only product coming out of San Diego.
This new show will apparently be eminating from "Scottdukes" :
Starscream said:Johny947 said:Well another good chance blown by CBS to add a GOOD local show. I heard the Big loOser and Daisy Duke show and was not at all impressed. Any guess on how long they will last? I give it about 100 "boy it's hot here" jokes before they get fired on their own or do to horrible ratings... great choice guys!
I want Free FM to work... why doesn't CBS?
I think both of those comments are very unfair.
CBS DOES want Free-FM to work. Why do you think they were so quick to can Roth and sign O&A? (Well, outside of Roth being a complete and total headcase) For whatever it means, it's working if the trends are to be believed.
You're already biased against the show with your witty names, without giving it a chance to grow. They're a new show in a new market. JV and Elvis in NYC were horrible their first month or so. They developed. Same could be said for Ron and Fez, who had deal with not only developing their show, but a potential bias against one of the hosts.
A lot of shows, unless they are 20 year veterans or syndicated and "already in the saddle" will ALWAYS have a rough start.
Again, if you have an ALTERNATIVE "Good" show, that fits the budget and timeslot that Free-FM has, then mention it. Otherwise, you're just blowing hot air.
Sure, CBS wants Free FM to work, but the DLR / O&A issues were primarily out of corporate, and stayed in NYC. Here, with no local programs, one would think that there would be plenty of time to try out shows.
Why would a station that has the monetary backing of a network like CBS only try out 1 show? I couldn't be persuaded to believe that the current offerings didn't produce at least a top 3. Look back at the Big O/Dukes ratings, and you'll see that they weren't fired only for their stupidity and dumb comments, but for the lack of listeners as well.
Forget getting a true local show. There isn't enough talent in the Phoenix market, and the talent that is there is already being tied down by their current stations. This job was posted on CBS's web page almost 2 months ago. I'm sure Free FM got a decent response. It's the only format quite like it currently. I would like to see a younger talk radio station and genre make it. Yes, I'm a fan of what Free FM stands for, and their target demo. I work for a company that consults on talk radio, so it would be in my best interest to do so. I can name at least 5 shows that could produce for Free FM in this market, but given my employment situation, it wouldn't be appropriate to do so.
Was there an inside track given to them? Maybe. They worked for a CBS station before. Will they struggle at first? Sure. The only question that matters is; for how long will they struggle?
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WolfOnTheAir
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According to the last posts about them, they didn't do a great job in their tryout. I listened to pieces of the three nights, and I got that same impression. I have to disagree with the "talent" statement based on what we heard. If that was their "A" game, then the ratings books will determine their fate.
I know for a FACT they had other shows locally to try BUT 101.5 obviously Wanted Big O and Dukes, and it is obvious for several reasons. They had their first "Test" Show with a Guy and a Girl from LA flying in the first week. The Guy is a Friend of the PD and that is how he got the tryout.
Then They put on Big O and Dukes and had several weeks to try other Local Talent ..YET would not give that Local Talent a test show to see what they can do. The PD was NOT open to other shows and clearly wanted to have Big O and Dukes.
Now I know for a FACT that The General Manager did NOT like Big O and Dukes as he refused to have dinner with them the last Night they were in town claiming he had "Other" Appointments.
Also Big O and Dukes were told by the PD that they had a lot of baggae to overcome and were a long shot to get the gig.
Also....as far as BIG O and Dukes they use the internet to talk with listeners during their show. During their test shows here in AZ They tried to pick up women to get laid before they left town.
These are facts and I am shocked, yet Not shocked at them being picked as the Show to repalce Henrdie. 101.5 clearly wants a show that does Sophmoric Radio and lame jokes that gets the callers calling. Like one poster said, they do NOT relate to their local audience and 101.5 really doesn't care. They want a show that creates controversy and the Radio here in Arizona seems to not want a quality show or Host.
Each week it amazes me more and more as I read what the posters here say they want on the local Radio scene YET none of the local stations want to give you the listeners a quality show????
Just thought I would fill out some of the reasons and behind the scenes on what happened here with Big O and Dukes.
Thanks
I know for a FACT they had other shows locally to try BUT 101.5 obviously Wanted Big O and Dukes, and it is obvious for several reasons. They had their first "Test" Show with a Guy and a Girl from LA flying in the first week. The Guy is a Friend of the PD and that is how he got the tryout.
Then They put on Big O and Dukes and had several weeks to try other Local Talent ..YET would not give that Local Talent a test show to see what they can do. The PD was NOT open to other shows and clearly wanted to have Big O and Dukes.
Now I know for a FACT that The General Manager did NOT like Big O and Dukes as he refused to have dinner with them the last Night they were in town claiming he had "Other" Appointments.
Also Big O and Dukes were told by the PD that they had a lot of baggae to overcome and were a long shot to get the gig.
Also....as far as BIG O and Dukes they use the internet to talk with listeners during their show. During their test shows here in AZ They tried to pick up women to get laid before they left town.
These are facts and I am shocked, yet Not shocked at them being picked as the Show to repalce Henrdie. 101.5 clearly wants a show that does Sophmoric Radio and lame jokes that gets the callers calling. Like one poster said, they do NOT relate to their local audience and 101.5 really doesn't care. They want a show that creates controversy and the Radio here in Arizona seems to not want a quality show or Host.
Each week it amazes me more and more as I read what the posters here say they want on the local Radio scene YET none of the local stations want to give you the listeners a quality show????
Just thought I would fill out some of the reasons and behind the scenes on what happened here with Big O and Dukes.
Thanks
WolfOnTheAir said:
So if the GM didn't like them so much, WHY DID THEY GET HIRED? The PD has only so much say. And if the GM hired them with reservations, and they don't create buzz, then they'll be off the air soon enough. Posting garbage like that only serves one purpose - you think Big O and Dukes reads these boards and you want to "get" at them.
...and the problem is? Personally, I think that's hysterical. Better some wacky yet creepy CHR nighttime jock hitting on 16 year olds when he's 40.
And the problem is? Controversy makes people listen. Controversy makes a good radio show.
For God's sake, you have LEYKIS on there. Don't turn up your nose to Big O and Dukes in a nighttime show when you have one of the most awful abortions of radio talent in PM Drive.
Free-FM is designed to appeal to males 25-54. That being said, I want names of talent that are 1) available 2) established enough to be in a top 10 market and 3) fits the format.
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WolfOnTheAir
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Not Garbage, but facts. Also realize Big O and Dukes were on 2 other CBS radio stations..so maybe they had pull with other execs? What I posted was pure facts. I couldn't care less if Big O and Dukes reads this or not. I posted because it amazes me that these 2 guys got hired. They aare NOT major top 10 established talent so to allude to that is ridiculous.
And they weren't trying to pick up a 16 year old they were trying to pick up a 35 year old and they aren't 40.
All I am suuggesting is 101.5 had many weeks to test OTHER shows. Other shows were available. They chose not to test them at all and instead went with BIG O.
I believe yo star are affiliated with 101.5 perhaps? Why the outrage?
And they weren't trying to pick up a 16 year old they were trying to pick up a 35 year old and they aren't 40.
All I am suuggesting is 101.5 had many weeks to test OTHER shows. Other shows were available. They chose not to test them at all and instead went with BIG O.
I believe yo star are affiliated with 101.5 perhaps? Why the outrage?
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WolfOnTheAir
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Forget getting a true local show. There isn't enough talent in the Phoenix market, and the talent that is there is already being tied down by their current stations. This job was posted on CBS's web page almost 2 months ago. I'm sure Free FM got a decent response. It's the only format quite like it currently. I would like to see a younger talk radio station and genre make it. Yes, I'm a fan of what Free FM stands for, and their target demo. I work for a company that consults on talk radio, so it would be in my best interest to do so. I can name at least 5 shows that could produce for Free FM in this market, but given my employment situation, it wouldn't be appropriate to do so.
Was there an inside track given to them? Maybe. They worked for a CBS station before. Will they struggle at first? Sure. The only question that matters is; for how long will they struggle?
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Moe, they did get a good response to their posted ad. I KNOW FOR A FACT that there were other "Local" Qualified shows asking for a test show and they refused to test them despite that show having a strong background.
They had zero intention of getting the best talent out there on the air.
Was there an inside track given to them? Maybe. They worked for a CBS station before. Will they struggle at first? Sure. The only question that matters is; for how long will they struggle?
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Moe, they did get a good response to their posted ad. I KNOW FOR A FACT that there were other "Local" Qualified shows asking for a test show and they refused to test them despite that show having a strong background.
They had zero intention of getting the best talent out there on the air.
OK, Wolf, you're posting all this "inside" information that you know "for a fact".
So obviously, you're a disgruntled employee with an ax to grind.
What's the matter - submitted a 40 minute demo on cassette that was poorly edited?
So obviously, you're a disgruntled employee with an ax to grind.
What's the matter - submitted a 40 minute demo on cassette that was poorly edited?
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WolfOnTheAir
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OK, Wolf, you're posting all this "inside" information that you know "for a fact".
So obviously, you're a disgruntled employee with an ax to grind.
What's the matter - submitted a 40 minute demo on cassette that was poorly edited?
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Chris you are wrong.
I am not, as you know, a disgruntled Employee..lol
No, I didn't submit a 40 minute Demo Tape that was "poorly" Edited.
Try again..lol
So obviously, you're a disgruntled employee with an ax to grind.
What's the matter - submitted a 40 minute demo on cassette that was poorly edited?
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Chris you are wrong.
I am not, as you know, a disgruntled Employee..lol
No, I didn't submit a 40 minute Demo Tape that was "poorly" Edited.
Try again..lol
So if
Nice, so if you have no connection to the inside, you admit you're just posting false garbage then?
WolfOnTheAir said:
Nice, so if you have no connection to the inside, you admit you're just posting false garbage then?
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WolfOnTheAir
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Nice, so if you have no connection to the inside, you admit you're just posting false garbage then?
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Chris I will try saying this again. I did NOT post false garbage as you put it. What I wrote is factual. Not Embelished at all. The soUrces were direct and also happened from personal Events as well. Sorry to disapoint you.
You still didn't address why the outrage from you about the Big O and Dukes comments.
Are you upset at your choosing them for your station and expected the rest of the posters on here to love them??
They are the WRONG choice. It proves Quality doesn't win out again. It's rather who you know and giving the lowest Performance possible for shock value that gets you noticed. LOL
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Chris I will try saying this again. I did NOT post false garbage as you put it. What I wrote is factual. Not Embelished at all. The soUrces were direct and also happened from personal Events as well. Sorry to disapoint you.
You still didn't address why the outrage from you about the Big O and Dukes comments.
Are you upset at your choosing them for your station and expected the rest of the posters on here to love them??
They are the WRONG choice. It proves Quality doesn't win out again. It's rather who you know and giving the lowest Performance possible for shock value that gets you noticed. LOL
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