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New London Ratings

Is there any specific reason as to why the New London ratings books are not released to the public? I'm curious as to see just how "number 1 in the ratings" WBMW is. I'm also curious as to how Citadel's WXLM is faring. You'd think for Market No. 174, they'd program it completely from the bird... they do have a 4-hour local morning show, God bless 'em... Here's their schedule (here you can find a photo of Rush Limbaugh in what David Letterman calls "his Italian gangster jacket" ;D ): http://www.wxlm.fm/staff.asp
 
Joe,

In my opinion moving WXLM from 102.3 to 104.7 was another stupid move on Citadel's part. News-Talk was the only thing that worked on 102.3 since the station was sold and dumped Oldies back in 2000? Now 102.3 is Classic Rock or Classic Hits again. It didn't work last time. (Last time they also flipped formats within weeks of the Rhode Island Night Club Tragedy as they had given away tickets to the show). It ain't working now.
 
It's not really their fault, since I guess they decided to keep the rock format with the Mohegan Sun "Wolf" branding. At least it's local, compared to 104.7, whose transmitter is in Montauk.

By the way, is it true 102.3's original call letters from 1981-1984 were WFAN? What format were they - not sports, right?
 
MarcB said:
Joe,

In my opinion moving WXLM from 102.3 to 104.7 was another stupid move on Citadel's part. News-Talk was the only thing that worked on 102.3 since the station was sold and dumped Oldies back in 2000? Now 102.3 is Classic Rock or Classic Hits again. It didn't work last time. (Last time they also flipped formats within weeks of the Rhode Island Night Club Tragedy as they had given away tickets to the show). It ain't working now.

How do you know what's working? If you had your way, you'd dismantle The River 105.9 and 96.5 TIC in Hartford and cancel Delilah. These are all very successful. People on this board are always confusing what they like with what works. That will never change, I guess. Just thought it was time to point that out again.
 
MarcB said:
Joe,

In my opinion moving WXLM from 102.3 to 104.7 was another stupid move on Citadel's part. News-Talk was the only thing that worked on 102.3 since the station was sold and dumped Oldies back in 2000? Now 102.3 is Classic Rock or Classic Hits again. It didn't work last time. (Last time they also flipped formats within weeks of the Rhode Island Night Club Tragedy as they had given away tickets to the show). It ain't working now.
That station has been garbage since it was wvve.
 
Yes, 102.3 was originally WFAN and it was a sort of eclectic top 40/dance format as I recall. They had a morning guy named "Eric Snow', I believe. And here's a story about how the more things change, the more they stay the same:

I was working at the old WSUB AM/FM when owner Bill Crawford was suddenly hit with a fatal heart attack. That was my first radio family and we were all pretty close as I recall. It was a horrible shock. Then, things became even more shocking. Mr. Crawford's family did not want to keep the station so it went on the block (son Peter Crawford was managing WCVB TV-5 in Boston at the time) and was sold to Dick Lightfoot, owner of a number of small, shoreline weely publications. During the transition period, which lasted about a year, many folks were let go or left on their own before the new regime took over. Many of them, sales and creative types, went to work at "the Fan", giving up or being ejected from what had been fairly comfortable positions to gamble on a new upstart. I remember a couple of my then-close friends trying to convince me to leave 'SUB and come work for the Fan, but I stayed on in Groton until 1980 when I made the jump to WICH in Norwich. To make a long story short, many of us had unquenchable passion for our business and even though we were no longer able to work at the place that had become "home", we carried on in whatever ways we could wherever else we ended up. Undeniable parallel to the situation of radio today except, perhaps, that we were all able to move on to new RADIO jobs then. Those may have been Golden Days but they were not without their share of turmoil, too.
 
videokilledtheradiostar said:
MarcB said:
Joe,

In my opinion moving WXLM from 102.3 to 104.7 was another stupid move on Citadel's part. News-Talk was the only thing that worked on 102.3 since the station was sold and dumped Oldies back in 2000? Now 102.3 is Classic Rock or Classic Hits again. It didn't work last time. (Last time they also flipped formats within weeks of the Rhode Island Night Club Tragedy as they had given away tickets to the show). It ain't working now.
That station has been garbage since it was wvve.

Good Lord!! Is there any station you actually DO like?
 
kms575 said:
videokilledtheradiostar said:
MarcB said:
Joe,

In my opinion moving WXLM from 102.3 to 104.7 was another stupid move on Citadel's part. News-Talk was the only thing that worked on 102.3 since the station was sold and dumped Oldies back in 2000? Now 102.3 is Classic Rock or Classic Hits again. It didn't work last time. (Last time they also flipped formats within weeks of the Rhode Island Night Club Tragedy as they had given away tickets to the show). It ain't working now.
That station has been garbage since it was wvve.

Good Lord!! Is there any station you actually DO like?
Not in CT!
 
So the tread is labeled New London Ratings. I was just wondering if there was an answer to why the NL book isn't released. Generally because Arbitron doesn't have enough subscribers and is paranoid those who don't subscribe will simply piratre the numbers thus taking $$$ our of ARB's pocket.

And does anyone have access that they may simply list the ranking of stations 12+ and 25-54?

Interesting reading on this board. We innocent bystanders have to duck for cover so we don't take a shot of venom in a crossfire.
 
smartestguyintheroom said:
So the tread is labeled New London Ratings. I was just wondering if there was an answer to why the NL book isn't released. Generally because Arbitron doesn't have enough subscribers and is paranoid those who don't subscribe will simply piratre the numbers thus taking $$$ our of ARB's pocket.

And does anyone have access that they may simply list the ranking of stations 12+ and 25-54?

Interesting reading on this board. We innocent bystanders have to duck for cover so we don't take a shot of venom in a crossfire.

I would say because someone doesn't pay the mafia... I mean arbitron. ;)
 
Educated guess: Hall will do fine. Red Wolf will do fine. Citadel will continue it's death spiral in that market.
 
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