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New music that doesn't suck (too much..)

See my posts of songs below and check those out.. Also notable mentions are Bart Claessen-Catch Me, another really hot track is DJ Jurgen-Higher Love.......... You might test t2-Heartbroken as well, it meets the sound of your station. Otherwise good luck getting any worthy responses on this board unless your posting about some Hex Hector New York Circuit crap... Another reason why Europe gets it, and the U.S doesnt......

P.S.... Since you play some Hip Hop as well, you should add the new Flo Rida-In the Ayer, has a real Breaky Miami Bass sound to it.
 
Yeah, we have been playin Flo-rida on Jammin 107-5, it ain't bad, but I am still absolutely in love with Three6mafia's new one. I checked out some of the others you suggested, not bad, might add a few (some were a little too long in the tooth.) As much as I like looking to imports for adds, I don't want to see another Ida Corr thing happen. We added that record I wanna say the first quarter of '07 or late '06 as an import, it ran on our charts for 16 weeks, dropped to recurrent and gold and then all of a sudden it picked up steam again on a domestic release. Felt like we had already been down that road, course we re upped it none the less.
 
Remember, it's not what the song is doing everywhere else - it's what it is doing for you. We played the song as an import - and I believe that helped gain attention in the states for the song. MoS had been working on starting up here, some songs will always be lost in the shuffle. Good songs rise without promotion.

We still play the song, just not as a current. Our audience is global, not IP landlocked in the USA. If you work FM - think local, if you are internet - think global. Current timellines are your choice.
 
Here's new ones that I like

Basshunter-All I Ever Wanted

Eric Prydz-Pjanoo (sp??)

Scooter-Jumping All Over The World

Laurent Wolf-Wash Me Away

David Vendetta-Hold that Sucker Down
 
cartman1964 said:
Here's new ones that I like

Basshunter-All I Ever Wanted

Eric Prydz-Pjanoo (sp??)

Scooter-Jumping All Over The World

Laurent Wolf-Wash My World

David Vendetta-Hold that Sucker Down

(To correct the title of the Laurent Wolf song)
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theedger,

Know what you mean, we luckily, are not land locked on our ip. The biggest problem though, as always, is label support. If a label is telling you to wait on pushing a single, because their promotional shove has not started yet, you don't want to jump the gun. Unfortunately, with dance you run that risk jumping on the import. You know what I mean, it's hard enough getting label support these days that you are not wanting to burn bridge.
 
Thats kinda what happened at my station with CRY FOR YOU,,, We started playing it last fall and it did really well for us and had good staying power, but just after we drop it from regular rotation it starts picking up steam elsewere and gets issued on promo only... We added it back as a recurrent and switched our Mix to the newer UK version which is only slightly different from the original.

Let me think about was a good reaction record for us, but it lost steam and got dropped within 4 weeks. I think Let me think about it could have done better if it had a quality video to air on MTV and BET... Have you ever seen the video to Let Me Think About It,,, It is absolutely horrible Cheese and low budget at its best. If you havent seen it, go to Youtube and look it up, Its comical its so bad.
 
Mid West Clubber said:
Thats kinda what happened at my station with CRY FOR YOU,,, We started playing it last fall and it did really well for us and had good staying power, but just after we drop it from regular rotation it starts picking up steam elsewere and gets issued on promo only... We added it back as a recurrent and switched our Mix to the newer UK version which is only slightly different from the original.

Let me think about was a good reaction record for us, but it lost steam and got dropped within 4 weeks. I think Let me think about it could have done better if it had a quality video to air on MTV and BET... Have you ever seen the video to Let Me Think About It,,, It is absolutely horrible Cheese and low budget at its best. If you havent seen it, go to Youtube and look it up, Its comical its so bad.
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Let me think about it did great. For a record that had barely any promotion behind it, the song was a major success. Even the hip-hop crowd loved it. That song has helped get more dance singles on CHR. David Guetta and September is now getting some additional attention.
 
Wow, dropped a record after 4 weeks? What's the point of even playing it, it was still probably unfamiliar to your audience, especially if you started out light on a new record like most stations do. Sometimes records need more than 4 weeks to become familiar with your audience.

Just something that stood out to me while reading your post.. Carry on.
 
Heck we just re added Cry For You, about a month ago, because its getting love at the Top 40 stations. It still gets requests. Big problem in the dance world is not allowing a song to breathe. You don't program a station for you thats what your Ipod is for. I think every programmer on this board has been told this a million times. If you are sick of a record that probably means that your audience is just hearing it for the first time.
 
Hot96portland said:
theedger,

Know what you mean, we luckily, are not land locked on our ip. The biggest problem though, as always, is label support. If a label is telling you to wait on pushing a single, because their promotional shove has not started yet, you don't want to jump the gun. Unfortunately, with dance you run that risk jumping on the import. You know what I mean, it's hard enough getting label support these days that you are not wanting to burn bridge.
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In this day and age is label support really that big of a deal? I mean what do they offer other than free promo copies of music? Big deal. You can now go online and get basically anything you need or want (legally or illegally) easily. Plus in the dance format, if you wait around on labels you'll miss out on tons of stuff since a lot of it is never released here anyway.

The only other thing the labels offer are things like artist promos and tie ins. And I really think most listeners are more concerned with the music you are playing than that extra fluff anyway. I just really wonder why anyone, in this day and age would be overly concerned with sticking to what the labels want played. Personally, I think I would take care of getting my own music and programming as I saw fit for ratings and listeners in my own market. I don't even think I would take label calls or bother reporting either. And as far as promotions, I think locally focused promos with advertisers are much more effective than any freebies the labels offer.

The labels had their time and place, but the world has changed and I don't see them as really being the controlling factor anymore.
 
Your point is good with maybe large labels, but the smaller labels are a different story. Many of the artist that are the big mover and shakers of dance music (The Armin's, the Tiesto's..) are tied to or own their own smaller labels, and if you want to get the drop on a new track BEFORE everyone else, you want to keep them happy. It's give and take. We want artist support, concert support and they want us to support the release they are trying to push. We get new music many times before it is public (sometimes even rough studio cuts) but we only can add a certain number tracks a week, and sometimes will sit on a release, because it may not be ready yet.

I know it may be hard for someone who is not in the industry to understand, but that is how it works.
 
Most internet radio stations just download music from p2p and don't care about promotions or label support. We have great relationships with the labels and promoters we work with here. I've never had a label tell me to not add a song. Infact, we had a label rep ask us what version of a song we play. The domestic label just signed it.

I'm not a fan of stations that load up their playlist with bootlegs. That doesn't support the label or artist.
 
No doubt man!

I have had to resort to grabbing bootlegs a few times, just because the Music servers we get stuff from never got the version we wanted, but eventually we got a hard copy from the label (or they would ftp it to us.) Part of the problem as well is that the bootleg files are of lesser quality, and I am a bit freaky about not having anything less than 320 kbps files in the library. After processing, the artifacts on lower quality files starts showing up.. Of course, I went round and round with one promo rep about that, he wouldn't send out anything other than 160 kbps mp3, and I finally had to tell him I wouldn't put his product on if he didn't send better quality files.
 
BRH said:
Hot96portland said:
theedger,

Know what you mean, we luckily, are not land locked on our ip. The biggest problem though, as always, is label support. If a label is telling you to wait on pushing a single, because their promotional shove has not started yet, you don't want to jump the gun. Unfortunately, with dance you run that risk jumping on the import. You know what I mean, it's hard enough getting label support these days that you are not wanting to burn bridge.
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In this day and age is label support really that big of a deal? I mean what do they offer other than free promo copies of music? Big deal. You can now go online and get basically anything you need or want (legally or illegally) easily. Plus in the dance format, if you wait around on labels you'll miss out on tons of stuff since a lot of it is never released here anyway.

The only other thing the labels offer are things like artist promos and tie ins. And I really think most listeners are more concerned with the music you are playing than that extra fluff anyway. I just really wonder why anyone, in this day and age would be overly concerned with sticking to what the labels want played. Personally, I think I would take care of getting my own music and programming as I saw fit for ratings and listeners in my own market. I don't even think I would take label calls or bother reporting either. And as far as promotions, I think locally focused promos with advertisers are much more effective than any freebies the labels offer.

The labels had their time and place, but the world has changed and I don't see them as really being the controlling factor anymore.
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That is the wrong attitude. Not taking a phone calls from the labels that are putting out the music is wrong. Not sending out a playlist is wrong. Those are life lines for the music. The freebies the label give us are a huge help with our listeners. Especially in this format when its tough to get the music we are playing. Downloading songs illegally for airplay? See that shows me if you actually program a station that you do not have a good relationship with the record labels. For a station like mine playing an import isnt always the best solution. We play a song that our listeners cant get. Does that help the genre?
 
It's not always that the listener can't get it. Sometimes a label will send one version down MPE or DMDS and not always include all the mixes available on like the CD single or iTunes. If I (as a programmer) thinks one of these versions might help sell the single and still keep the sound of the station in check, then Hell yes I am going to add it. I feel the same way about some versions off of the major remix services, as long as they keep the same basic structure as the album or single cut.

I have gone round and round with other PD's about which versions to program, but the example I always toss up is tracks like "Listen To Your Heart" or some of Cascada tracks with the so-called 'Candlelight' mixes. It's not always available on the album (unless a reissue) but usually on the CD single or digital single. Without those versions, the tracks would have been doomed to the dreaded 'dance-only' stations.

Gotta remember, we are in a new age, and listeners have no problem buying the single version through iTunes. Most of your 12-34 year olds have no problem tracking down a specific version either through Amazon or iTunes, and either way helps the artist and label sell tracks!
 
The candlelight mixes blow!!!why bother playing Listen To Your Heart when that version sounded exactly like the original by roxette. Good point bad example
 
Your personal opinion. Which certainly isn't supported by the fact that the public purchased a ton of downloads on that particular version. ;)

jp
 
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