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New My Network deals announced!

> These new affiliations for the service/network some have
> called "Fox 2" or "Fox Jr." include outlets in Charlotte,
> Baton Rouge, Honolulu, & in a develpment that`ll perk up Old
> Akronite`s ears: Cleveland! The latter 3 are a result of a
> Raycom group deal.

Thank you for the heads up...we've posted it on You Know Where.

It's interesting that Raycom decided not to go for CW on what would be a logical affiliate, KFVE/Honolulu (WB). UPN in that market airs out of pattern in late afternoon on a station that otherwise features Japanese and other non-English programming.

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> > These new affiliations for the service/network some have
> > called "Fox 2" or "Fox Jr." include outlets in Charlotte,
> > Baton Rouge, Honolulu, & in a develpment that`ll perk up
> Old
> > Akronite`s ears: Cleveland! The latter 3 are a result of a
>
> > Raycom group deal.
>
> Thank you for the heads up...we've posted it on You Know
> Where.
>
> It's interesting that Raycom decided not to go for CW on
> what would be a logical affiliate, KFVE/Honolulu (WB). UPN
> in that market airs out of pattern in late afternoon on a
> station that otherwise features Japanese and other
> non-English programming.
>
> -OA
>
Sure thing O.A.! Monkey see, monkey do! Just hours after CW makes a 5-station affiliate announcement, Fox/My announces 5 new affliations of their own, maybe it`s just coincidence, but I wonder about the possible/likely gamesmanship being played out here.
 
> Thank you for the heads up...we've posted it on You Know
> Where.
>
> It's interesting that Raycom decided not to go for CW on
> what would be a logical affiliate, KFVE/Honolulu (WB). UPN
> in that market airs out of pattern in late afternoon on a
> station that otherwise features Japanese and other
> non-English programming.

Time Warner owns the cable system in Honolulu, so it wouldn't be surprising to see The CW end up on a cable-only station instead of KIKU or another UHF.
 
Raycom - what about Syracuse?

> Sure thing O.A.! Monkey see, monkey do! Just hours after CW
> makes a 5-station affiliate announcement, Fox/My announces 5
> new affliations of their own, maybe it`s just coincidence,
> but I wonder about the possible/likely gamesmanship being
> played out here.

I guess you could call it "gamesmanship." What it really is, it seems to me, is a race to the finish line (or perhaps to the starting gate) for both of the new weblets. No doubt both nets' affiliate-relations departments are working overtime to get distribution in place for day one. The pickings get very slim by the time you get to stations #5 and #6 in many markets, and the arrival of My (with its more attractive deal for cash-strapped station owners) has got to be putting pressure on CW to back down from the tough terms it thought it could dictate to stations when it appeared to be the only game in town.

Which brings us to Raycom, which announced a bunch of My deals today - and which is sitting on at least one station (WSTQ-LP Syracuse) that's losing UPN, in a market where the crosstown WB (Sinclair's WNYS) has already committed to My. This could be a good test of how flexible CW is willing to be - they would seem to need WSTQ now more than WSTQ needs them. <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Raycom - what about Syracuse?

> The
> pickings get very slim by the time you get to stations #5
> and #6 in many markets, and the arrival of My (with its more
> attractive deal for cash-strapped station owners) has got to
> be putting pressure on CW to back down from the tough terms
> it thought it could dictate to stations when it appeared to
> be the only game in town.

Raycom and Sinclair executives all but bear hugged the My folks, making it rather clear that they were very happy with the financial terms (no reverse compensation). The move to make Raycom's KFVE a My station is telling, and leaves CW scrambling to figure out what to do next.

It would seem apparent that KIKU/20 is not an ideal affiliate for CW. It's asking affiliates to clear X-hours of programming a week, it wants a big promotional presence...and KIKU currently buries two hours of nightly UPN programming in late afternoon, and surrounds it with Japanese and other non-English stuff.

> Which brings us to Raycom, which announced a bunch of My
> deals today - and which is sitting on at least one station
> (WSTQ-LP Syracuse) that's losing UPN, in a market where the
> crosstown WB (Sinclair's WNYS) has already committed to My.
> This could be a good test of how flexible CW is willing to
> be - they would seem to need WSTQ now more than WSTQ needs
> them.

With TWC's presence in Syracuse, perhaps this is another possible market for a cable-run affiliate in the style of WRWB in Rochester, perhaps even run in tandem (much like the cross-pollinization between "Capital News 9" and a certain former employer of yours). I certainly don't see Raycom shelling out major cash to affiliate WSTQ-LP.

The question, though...is what Raycom will DO with WSTQ-LP as a non-affiliated independent station.

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Re: Raycom - what about Syracuse?

>
> > Which brings us to Raycom, which announced a bunch of My
> > deals today - and which is sitting on at least one station
>
> > (WSTQ-LP Syracuse) that's losing UPN, in a market where
> the
> > crosstown WB (Sinclair's WNYS) has already committed to
> My.
> > This could be a good test of how flexible CW is willing to
>
> > be - they would seem to need WSTQ now more than WSTQ needs
>
> > them.
>
> With TWC's presence in Syracuse, perhaps this is another
> possible market for a cable-run affiliate in the style of
> WRWB in Rochester, perhaps even run in tandem (much like the
> cross-pollinization between "Capital News 9" and a certain
> former employer of yours). I certainly don't see Raycom
> shelling out major cash to affiliate WSTQ-LP.
>
> The question, though...is what Raycom will DO with WSTQ-LP
> as a non-affiliated independent station.
>
> -OA
>

Syracuse post standard on 3/4/06 had a story concerning WNYS becoming "MyNetworkTv" it also stated that the GM of WSTQ indicated that he was "pretty optimistic" that WSTQ will sign with The CW. The hope at WSTQ is that something will come together in two to three weeks. Time will tell~
 
Re: Raycom - what about Syracuse?

> With TWC's presence in Syracuse, perhaps this is another
> possible market for a cable-run affiliate in the style of
> WRWB in Rochester, perhaps even run in tandem (much like the
> cross-pollinization between "Capital News 9" and a certain
> former employer of yours). I certainly don't see Raycom
> shelling out major cash to affiliate WSTQ-LP.

Nor do I.

And remember, the CW affiliation is on the table in three more TWC-dominant markets in upstate New York: Buffalo (where LIN's WNLO has yet to sign), Elmira and Binghamton (the latter two on WB 100+ cable outlets). Could TWC turn the very successful "WB16" experience in Rochester into a regional CW service, with nice strong drawing points like Syracuse University sports? Don't bet against them.

> The question, though...is what Raycom will DO with WSTQ-LP
> as a non-affiliated independent station.

If it even survives. It only got cable carriage because of the UPN affiliation (and, presumably, as a bargaining chip for WSTM retrans consent), and it has essentially no OTA presence in the market, at least on its analog signal. It will, on the other hand, have the only 10 PM news in the market when WSYT's WTVH-produced newscast goes away soon - but then, WSTQ going away would open the door to Raycom contracting with WSYT to move the WSTM-produced 10 PM show (back) to Fox 68.

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> > It's interesting that Raycom decided not to go for CW on
> > what would be a logical affiliate, KFVE/Honolulu (WB).
> UPN
> > in that market airs out of pattern in late afternoon on a
> > station that otherwise features Japanese and other
> > non-English programming.
> >
>

KFVE pre-empts WB a lot, showing the programs out of pattern for University of Hawaii sports. This week alone they will have coverage of the men's and women's basketball teams in the WAC tournament, baseball, sotball and men's volleyball. With all of that , The CW would still probably prefer that than being on a station that has no other programming that is in English.
 
TWC and CW Cable Affiliates, Buffalo

> And remember, the CW affiliation is on the table in three
> more TWC-dominant markets in upstate New York: Buffalo
> (where LIN's WNLO has yet to sign), Elmira and Binghamton
> (the latter two on WB 100+ cable outlets). Could TWC turn
> the very successful "WB16" experience in Rochester into a
> regional CW service, with nice strong drawing points like
> Syracuse University sports? Don't bet against them.

I've never seen "WB16", but at least from the web site it appears to be very similar to a strong over-air WB affiliate. And I did notice one thing while visiting the site - they have an HD feed on cable channel 1016. Since HD is supposedly important to the CW folks, TWC would have no problem launching complementary HD feeds in Buffalo and other upstate New York markets.

It'd also been a big splash when TWC takes over the Adelphia systems in Buffalo and environs. It all fits together rather nicely, no?

Add to that another fact in Buffalo... LIN has come out rather strongly against the CW's reverse compensation model. Read here:

<a target="_blank" href=http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=29469>http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=29469</a>

"In a Feb. 15 conference call with investors, LIN TV Chief Financial Officer Vincent Sadusky drew a line in the sand responding to reports that The CW expects reverse compensation. Sadusky noted LIN already programs 22 out of 24 hours where it gets four to five times the number of commercial availabilities to sell. 'Even if we get only half of the ratings, it is far from a negative scenario' given the greater number of spots, he concluded."

Doesn't sound like a group itching to sign up, does it? Like Syracuse, I figure The CW would basically have to come down completely from its reverse compensation model, which I don't consider likely to happen.

I wonder how many stations like WSTQ-LP will be caught in that squeeze and basically go away? If TWC mounts the Syracuse version of "WB16", do they have any incentive to even still keep running WSTQ-LP, if it survives as an entity without UPN? I doubt it...

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Re: TWC and CW Cable Affiliates, Buffalo

> I've never seen "WB16", but at least from the web site it
> appears to be very similar to a strong over-air WB
> affiliate.

It is. In this very heavily cabled market, I think most people probably don't perceive any distinction between "WRWB" and the OTA stations. It's listed right alongside them in the newspaper, and was even listed just like an OTA station in TV Guide. And they promote like crazy in the community.

> I wonder how many stations like WSTQ-LP will be caught in
> that squeeze and basically go away? If TWC mounts the
> Syracuse version of "WB16", do they have any incentive to
> even still keep running WSTQ-LP, if it survives as an entity
> without UPN? I doubt it...

The only thing keeping WSTQ-LP on cable might be the carriage deal for WSTM. I suspect - but do not know for certain - that carriage for WSTQ was a part of the last set of negotiations between TWC and WSTM. <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Raycom - what about Syracuse?

> >
>
> Syracuse post standard on 3/4/06 had a story concerning WNYS
> becoming "MyNetworkTv" it also stated that the GM of WSTQ
> indicated that he was "pretty optimistic" that WSTQ will
> sign with The CW. The hope at WSTQ is that something will
> come together in two to three weeks. Time will tell~
>

Don't forget that WSTM/WSTQ is for sale at the moment. If potential buyers have no interest in CW, Raycom is not going to sign an affiliation agreement.
 
Hi everyone:

> > Thank you for the heads up...we've posted it on You Know
> > Where.
> >
> > It's interesting that Raycom decided not to go for CW on
> > what would be a logical affiliate, KFVE/Honolulu (WB).
> UPN
> > in that market airs out of pattern in late afternoon on a
> > station that otherwise features Japanese and other
> > non-English programming.
>
> Time Warner owns the cable system in Honolulu, so it
> wouldn't be surprising to see The CW end up on a cable-only
> station instead of KIKU or another UHF.

Couldn't someone like KHNL 8/13 or KITV 4 pick up The CW and air it on their secondary HD channel? One would think....

Thoughts?

Cheers :)

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Re: Raycom - what about Syracuse?

Hi everyone:

> > Syracuse post standard on 3/4/06 had a story concerning
> WNYS
> > becoming "MyNetworkTv" it also stated that the GM of WSTQ
> > indicated that he was "pretty optimistic" that WSTQ will
> > sign with The CW. The hope at WSTQ is that something will
> > come together in two to three weeks. Time will tell~
> >
>
> Don't forget that WSTM/WSTQ is for sale at the moment. If
> potential buyers have no interest in CW, Raycom is not going
> to sign an affiliation agreement.

They won't make the effort to keep WSTQ on the air either.

Just my opinion.... :)

Cheers :)

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> Couldn't someone like KHNL 8/13 or KITV 4 pick up The CW and
> air it on their secondary HD channel? One would think....

There's not enough bandwidth to put two HDTV feeds on one signal. Only one will fit, and KHNL is NBC, KITV is ABC.

- Trip
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> > Couldn't someone like KHNL 8/13 or KITV 4 pick up The CW
> and
> > air it on their secondary HD channel? One would think....
>
>
> There's not enough bandwidth to put two HDTV feeds on one
> signal. Only one will fit, and KHNL is NBC, KITV is ABC.

"UPN 14" in Madison, Wis. announced affiliation with My Network yesterday; this station is carried on subchannel 3-2 of WISC-DT. (the main channel is CBS and does carry HD) ("UPN 14" does of course have extensive cable carraige)

Sister station WKBT-DT in La Crosse, Wis. has also announced a second channel will carry My Network, though it's unclear whether that second channel will be a subchannel of WKBT-DT or only on cable.

Also, at some point in the last seven days a CW affiliation was announced for a subchannel of KVIA-DT in El Paso, Texas.

To my knowledge, you're correct about not being able to fit two HD programs into a single DTV signal. So apparently the HD requirements for these affiliations are negotiable.
 
Subchannel Affiliates and HD

> To my knowledge, you're correct about not being able to fit
> two HD programs into a single DTV signal. So apparently the
> HD requirements for these affiliations are negotiable.

It's my guess that CW will encourage a cable-only HD feed - much like WB-to-be-CW cable-only affiliate "WRWB - WB 16" already has in Rochester NY.

This can be done rather easily, with the station sending out a fiber optic HD feed to the cable systems. Many stations already feed cable with fiber optic anyway.

It becomes even easier if there's only one or two major MSOs in a market.

(Note: Of course, "WRWB" is already based at the cable system, so it feeds itself. :D)

I haven't read anything about My Network TV's plans for HD, if any.

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Re: TWC and CW Cable Affiliates, Buffalo

> It is. In this very heavily cabled market, I think most
> people probably don't perceive any distinction between
> "WRWB" and the OTA stations. It's listed right alongside
> them in the newspaper, and was even listed just like an OTA
> station in TV Guide. And they promote like crazy in the
> community.

Is WRWB locally programmed by TWC or is it WB 100+?

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