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New Omnia in our market

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blindmelon

Hi Everyone,

So, I work in a market that is dominated by Optimods (mostly 8400 and 8500's). One station has swapped their 8200 for a Omnia 6.

I've had a very close listen over the past few weeks and noticed quite a bit of distortion in the HFs. On this station (Soft AC) they are not pushing the audio hard at all (compared to some of the CHR's in the market)

When they had the 8200, there was no distortion what so ever and they had one of the cleanest sounds on the dial.

I'm sure there could be a million areas the distortion is coming from, but what do you most likey think it is? I can hear that they are trying to re create the sound they had with the 8200, but it just doesn't sound right.

Anyway, I hope to get some answers to pass onto a friend who works there.

Kind Regards
 
Sounds like incorrect tweaking.i suggest contacting Mark at Omnia support.Is this a new box?6ex or 6exi? i;ve leaned on one pretty heavy on a chr format,i could not hear any hf distortion.It's all in the setup.
 
First thing that happens with any new processor is to use too much of it.
Any component of the audio which then gets clipped (in the processor or later stages) will generate harmonics, and show up as the sort of fuzz you describe. The HF energy will have to be controlled more agressively somewhere to keep clipping from occurring.
If doing so makes the result muddy, then "everything else" must come down some too, to make "room" for the balance desired.

I have no experience in any of the professional grade equipment, so can only offer this general advice.
I'm sure someone will offer specific Omnia preset suggestions or maybe even share presets with you.
 
blindmelon said:
Hi Everyone,

So, I work in a market that is dominated by Optimods (mostly 8400 and 8500's). One station has swapped their 8200 for a Omnia 6.

I've had a very close listen over the past few weeks and noticed quite a bit of distortion in the HFs. On this station (Soft AC) they are not pushing the audio hard at all (compared to some of the CHR's in the market)

When they had the 8200, there was no distortion what so ever and they had one of the cleanest sounds on the dial.

Kind Regards
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The 8200 is notorious for poor sounding HF. Orban admits this in the way they changed sampling in the later boxes. Also very possible this station has source issues that were masked over by the 8200 HF dulling effect, which is designed to minimize it's poof HF clarity issues.
 
I agree with Wells... after setting the proc amps to the satisfaction of everyone, reduce each gain setting by 1 - 3 dB and then live with iit a week to see how you like it.
 
This is one of those impossible to know answers....without hearing unprocessed audio and actually being there. Because it could literally be anything: poorly recorded audio, compressed audio, bad console capacitors, crummy STL feed, failing DA in the chain...anything! We replaced an aging 8100 one time with an Aphex and immediately, the failing caps in the console were uncovered for all to hear.
 
Try "Country 2" and then add a bit more high-end back in. I have found that setting to be a good starting point. What a person has to understand about these newer boxes is that they can litterly be made to sound as good or bad as you are willing to adjust them. I took a 8300 and tweeked the hell out of it's structure for a month to get the sound I wanted on a station that litterly plays stuff from the 50s on up to '86. Lots of variation of the music was a challenge to get it "right". In contrast I installed an Omnia 6 on a Smooth Jazz station and selected that Country 2 preset and just added a bit more highs. It sounded great so I called it good. It took me less than an hour to get where I wanted to get it. It probably helps a LOT as far as their source material being as good as it is. It is REAL easy to get loud because it's clean to the core.
 
Is the station overly bright? I've seen some users make the mistake of abusing the highs on an Omnia and ending up with distortion. It processes highs very differently than the 8200 and it's easy to make the mistake if you're used to dialing in a horse of a different color.

There should be no reason the box can't sound better, I mean, it is replacing an 8200.
 
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