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New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/13/05)

Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

>
> Almost all the stations suspended for their own branded
> coverage, then rebroadcast the local TV stations while they
> them selves were evacuating. If you remember On-top licensee
> of KNOU is in financial straits and was already running on
> computer but yeah, whereas everyone else had storm coverage,
> they were hip hoping.....
>


On Tops Hot 97 here in Jackson, MS was also hip hopping while the storm was passing also, I'm not even sure if it was even mentioned.
 
Re: Edit: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

>
> Don't know but most of the time I've been tuning in (I catch
> it over the air BTW) it was still storm news, but I haven't
> been able to tune in lately to WWL during the day the past
> week or so .
>
> It may be they are feeding the cable companies different
> programming than the O-T-A people (Like WBRZ was doing in
> Baton Rouge). Last time I remember about cable companies
> here, most were getting their signals from antennas about
> 100 feet up....
>
> Also on TW in Houma, I know they feature 2 CBS affliates,
> WWL New Orleans and WAFB Baton Rouge.
>
> RFLA
>
>
> Edit: Apparently WWL is broadcasting normal CBS
> programming..I'm off my game lately...Showing the end of
> Oceans Eleven at 10:20pm Sunday
> Sorry barryATL ....
>
> RFLA
>

I am in Lake Charles right now, but my employees say they are seeing CBS programming on WWL via TW Cable in Houma and I am watching continious news on the stream. I they doing dual programming now? One feed for local over the air and another for streaming and all these digital stations??
 
Re: Edit: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

> I am in Lake Charles right now, but my employees say they
> are seeing CBS programming on WWL via TW Cable in Houma and
> I am watching continious news on the stream. I they doing
> dual programming now? One feed for local over the air and
> another for streaming and all these digital stations??


I've heard that WWL-DT is back up. Perhaps it's running both feeds.
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

Federal Communications Commission

News Media Information 202 / 418-0500445 12th St., S.W. Internet: http://www.fcc.govWashington, D.C. 20554 TTY: 1-888-835-5322

DA 05-2438
Released: September 9, 2005

REMINDER TO VIDEO PROGRAMMING DISTRIBUTORS OF NEED TO MAKE
EMERGENCY INFORMATION REGARDING HURRICANE KATRINA
EVACUATION AND RELIEF EFFORTS ACCESSIBLE TO PERSONS WITH
HEARING OR VISION DISABILITIES

Full Text: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-05-2438A1.pdf
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

At one time, Channel 11 was assigned to Houma. I wonder what happened to that assignment.
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

> At one time, Channel 11 was assigned to Houma. I wonder what
> happened to that assignment.
>

I recall (a while back, looking at old Times-Pic microfilm) that there was also a TV station on the air on ch.11 from Houma, which went dark sometime in the 1970s. I read that ch.11 was reallocated to another city (perhaps in Mississippi) shortly after the station went dark.
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

> > At one time, Channel 11 was assigned to Houma. I wonder
> what
> > happened to that assignment.
> >
>
> I recall (a while back, looking at old Times-Pic microfilm)
> that there was also a TV station on the air on ch.11 from
> Houma, which went dark sometime in the 1970s. I read that
> ch.11 was reallocated to another city (perhaps in
> Mississippi) shortly after the station went dark.

No, nothing new in Mississippi.

Since the death of KHMA (which didn't sign-on until 1972, I think), another 11 has come on in Columbia, LA, serving the Monroe market.

But, most importantly, WYES-12 in New Orleans uses channel 11 for its DTV station. Whether WYES continues to use channel 11 for DTV once the analogs sign off (and there are some reasons they might not) remains to be seen.

There is also an LPTV on channel 11 in Baton Rouge that would not have fit with Houma on the air. LPTVs, though, don't really fill allocations. Surprisingly, they have never made the move to change status to "Class A," which would allow some protection, but that's a discussion for another day.

DE
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

> > > At one time, Channel 11 was assigned to Houma. I wonder
> > what
> > > happened to that assignment.
> > >
> >
> > I recall (a while back, looking at old Times-Pic
> microfilm)
> > that there was also a TV station on the air on ch.11 from
> > Houma, which went dark sometime in the 1970s. I read that
> > ch.11 was reallocated to another city (perhaps in
> > Mississippi) shortly after the station went dark.


KHMA Channel 11 If others memories are good, was a public broadcasting type station for Houma (probably of the style like today's KFOL-CA). I don't know if it was commercial or not (the only record I could find was it was an independant and sign on was March 1,1972 as it's a note in the history books of about 20 websites) but Lack of funds was it's demise only a few years after it's start. The Building they were in was still existant for a number of years after If I remember.

I don't think the vacancy had a Mississippi destination but just went dead. As the only other stations on channel 11 today (I don't know about 1975 or so when I think it had it's demise) are outside the protected area...One is in Meridian,Ms., One in Columbia,La (outside Monroe and didn't come on air until 1998 I beleive), and KHOU Houston.

But anyhow, Between DTV and others now, we would be a UHF town if Houma would ever get it's own affliates IMHO

RFLA
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

> Federal Communications Commission
>
> News Media Information 202 / 418-0500445 12th St., S.W.
> Internet: http://www.fcc.govWashington, D.C. 20554 TTY:
> 1-888-835-5322
>
> DA 05-2438
> Released: September 9, 2005
>
> REMINDER TO VIDEO PROGRAMMING DISTRIBUTORS OF NEED TO MAKE
> EMERGENCY INFORMATION REGARDING HURRICANE KATRINA
> EVACUATION AND RELIEF EFFORTS ACCESSIBLE TO PERSONS WITH
> HEARING OR VISION DISABILITIES
>
> Full Text:
http:/> /hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-05-2438A1.pdf
>
I remember watching some of KHMA's programming back in the 70s from
my home in Laplace. It was most certainly a commercial TV station with local newcasts at 6 and 10PM. It was not network affiliated. So, the programming was basically old movies, syndicated talk shows and old sitcoms.
But I remember the broadcast day as being rather short. Sign-on was around noon, and sign off was around 11PM.
This type of schedule was very typical of non-network stations in those days.
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

> But anyhow, Between DTV and others now, we would be a UHF
> town if Houma would ever get it's own affliates IMHO
>

Don't forget that KFOL's Morgan City's simulcast is on Channel 7, KJUN. A couple of moves with this Channel especially a change to digital could make it a big player since the closest Channel 7's I believe are in Hattiesburg and Lake Charles. Also, remember that KPLC lost its NBC affiliation in Lafayette, so it may have lost some protection on that eastern end. I know that NBC wouldn't come to KJUN for the Lafayette market since its already tied up with Channel 43 in New Iberia, I believe.
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

> > But anyhow, Between DTV and others now, we would be a UHF
> > town if Houma would ever get it's own affliates IMHO
> >
>
> Don't forget that KFOL's Morgan City's simulcast is on
> Channel 7, KJUN. A couple of moves with this Channel
> especially a change to digital could make it a big player
> since the closest Channel 7's I believe are in Hattiesburg
> and Lake Charles. Also, remember that KPLC lost its NBC
> affiliation in Lafayette, so it may have lost some
> protection on that eastern end. I know that NBC wouldn't
> come to KJUN for the Lafayette market since its already tied
> up with Channel 43 in New Iberia, I believe.
>

KPLC is in Lake Charles and they are still an NBC affiliate. I not sure what you mean by "remember that KPLC lost its NBC affiliation in Lafayette, so it may have lost some protection on that eastern end." Are you saying the FCC will not protect a station's signal based on their network affiliation or lack of one?
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

> KPLC is in Lake Charles and they are still an NBC affiliate.
> I not sure what you mean by "remember that KPLC lost its
> NBC affiliation in Lafayette, so it may have lost some
> protection on that eastern end."

Maybe because another NBC station recently signed on in the Lafayette area, where they had no local NBC station?
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

> > KPLC is in Lake Charles and they are still an NBC
> affiliate.
> > I not sure what you mean by "remember that KPLC lost its
> > NBC affiliation in Lafayette, so it may have lost some
> > protection on that eastern end."
>
> Maybe because another NBC station recently signed on in the
> Lafayette area, where they had no local NBC station?
>

So, you are not talking about coverage of signal? You are talking about network affiliations?

Lafayette is a seperate DMA from Lake Charles and there can be an NBC affiliate in both markets. Same with all the other networks. There is an NBC and FOX affiliate in Lake Charles. In Lafayettee there are ABC, CBS, and Fox affiliates. Both DMA's have a Fox affiliate.
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

> > > KPLC is in Lake Charles and they are still an NBC
> > affiliate.
> > > I not sure what you mean by "remember that KPLC lost
> its
> > > NBC affiliation in Lafayette, so it may have lost some
> > > protection on that eastern end."
> >
> > Maybe because another NBC station recently signed on in
> the
> > Lafayette area, where they had no local NBC station?
> >
>
> So, you are not talking about coverage of signal? You are
> talking about network affiliations?
>
> Lafayette is a seperate DMA from Lake Charles and there can
> be an NBC affiliate in both markets. Same with all the
> other networks. There is an NBC and FOX affiliate in Lake
> Charles. In Lafayettee there are ABC, CBS, and Fox
> affiliates. Both DMA's have a Fox affiliate.
>

I'm living in Lafayette now (displaced from Metairie) and KPLC-DT has almost NO presence here in Lafayette, even with an outdoor antenna. Their analog signal is watchable, that's about it. I even called KPLC-TV (today 9/14) and spoke with an engineer who told me it would be tough to receive their HD signal from Lafayette. I don't understand why they can ID themselves as Lake Charles/Lafayette when they very much underserve their viewers in Lafayette.
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

Channel 11 KHMA-TV in Houma, was owned by Denver Brannon of Panama City. He also owned an AM and FM station in Houma, I believe the callsign of one of the stations was KCIL. When he took the station off the air in the early 70's, most of the equipment was brought to Panama City and used to put Channel 13 WDTB-TV (Denver T. Brannon) which is now WMBB-TV. I remember looking over the equipment that was stored in an upstairs area of an office building he owned in downtown Panama City in either 1971, 1972 or 1973...I can't remember exactly. WDTB-TV went on the air in 1974 in Panama City.

Charlie Wooten
Clear Channel Radio
Panama City
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

> WDTB-TV [WMBB today] went on the air in 1974 in Panama City.

Close -- it signed on on October 3 or 4, 1973, according to the Broadcasting & Cable Yearbook and the TV Factbook.
 
Re: New Orleans Radio/TV Status (Updated 9/9/05)

Ok here is the info:

TV networks give out affliations to TV stations like a Mcdonalds or the Chevy dealer gives out franchises... You are given a territory to operate as your own.

Lafayette and Lake Charles are two seperate markets BUT since KPLC's tower is in Fenton about 25 miles outside Lake Charles to the east (and about 40 miles west of Lafayette), It was close enough that they were considered good enough to serve both communities. As StevenNOLA found out however,that is not the case. NBC finally pulled the affliation (franchise) for Lafayette due to signal into Lafayette. Technically 3 NBC's cover the area (KALB 5 Alexandria from the North, KPLC 7 from the west, and WVLA 33 from the east) but all still have a good but not acceptable for affliation signal.

There is a new channel going up in the area on ch.50 licensed to New Iberia but is supposed to take over for 4 LPTV stations with the WB affliation I beleive (either that or UPN). Now the 4 LPTV's could become NBC or someone could try to persuade the owner to take the NBC affliation for channel 50 instead of the planned network take over for the 4 LPs

This is the same problem that Alexandria has with CBS. KLFY from Lafayette is supposed to be the affliate there (from what I've been told..However both it and KNOE from Monroe cover the area depending upon where you are in cenla) but between signal and no real mention of Cenla in their news or ads, A new full power station (KBCA 41) was built that was supposed to take the FOX affliate with CBS moving to a main transmitter in Natchez,Miss and going over 4 translators in Cenla to cover the market..However Fox reportedly nixed the deal and caused KBCA to take over the previously cable only affiation of the WB in Alexandria.
http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=441270&Board=louisiana

On tri-parish's question... KJUN-CA Morgan City BARELY covers it's city of license with a signal at all
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=CA1062283.html

Another TV station is on in Morgan City and does a better job to it's community area in signal strength (KWBJ-LP 39) which BTW is a WB affliate http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=CA136611.html

But neither get out of it's general area of East. St. Mary Parish and would need upgrades and channel reassignments to become Full power stations.

Right now, The New Orleans stations except for WUPL's UPN affliation basically serve the tri-parish area (or an argument for some Baton Rouge affliates also can be some what made) and trying to convince a network to put an affliation here would be extremely hard without serious growth potential and prove diservice by other affliates (which right now you can't in a way) BUT when digital takes over however, without translators..the future is looking bleak for many rural areas (that have population like Alexandria, Lake Charles, as well as Houma) and new Full powers may be the answer.

RFLA

Edit- Since this is getting a little off topic to what Big Tymer was trying for in his stickey for people intersted in what is on in New Orleans and is getting to be a discussion of it's own, I've started a new thread on this subject above on a new thread at http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Board=louisiana&Post=540250

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by RFLA on 09/15/05 02:39 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: KHMA antenna?

Hey Charlie, I'm curious if WDTB also took the KHMA tower or antenna. I have a memory of driving along the bayou with my folks and wondering what was that thing by the road. After I started working in Lousisiana and realized what it was -- the "thing" being the monster bat-wing antenna on what I recall as a short but beefy tower -- I could never again find the site or the tower. Anyone know where it was?

Paul E. Burt
BMP Radio of San Antonio

> Channel 11 KHMA-TV in Houma, was owned by Denver Brannon of
> Panama City. He also owned an AM and FM station in Houma, I
> believe the callsign of one of the stations was KCIL. When
> he took the station off the air in the early 70's, most of
> the equipment was brought to Panama City and used to put
> Channel 13 WDTB-TV (Denver T. Brannon) which is now WMBB-TV.
> I remember looking over the equipment that was stored in an
> upstairs area of an office building he owned in downtown
> Panama City in either 1971, 1972 or 1973...I can't remember
> exactly. WDTB-TV went on the air in 1974 in Panama City.
>
> Charlie Wooten
> Clear Channel Radio
> Panama City
>
 
Re: KHMA antenna?

Hey Paul...no, when Channel 13 went on the air, they used a new 1749 foot tower with a new RCA Travelling Wave (slot) antenna.....never saw the batwing over here. In 1988, that tower was knocked down by an Air Force jet and the site was rebuilt about 15 miles west of the old site.

> Hey Charlie, I'm curious if WDTB also took the KHMA tower or
> antenna. I have a memory of driving along the bayou with my
> folks and wondering what was that thing by the road. After I
> started working in Lousisiana and realized what it was --
> the "thing" being the monster bat-wing antenna on what I
> recall as a short but beefy tower -- I could never again
> find the site or the tower. Anyone know where it was?
>
> Paul E. Burt
> BMP Radio of San Antonio
>
> > Channel 11 KHMA-TV in Houma, was owned by Denver Brannon
> of
> > Panama City. He also owned an AM and FM station in Houma,
> I
> > believe the callsign of one of the stations was KCIL. When
>
> > he took the station off the air in the early 70's, most of
>
> > the equipment was brought to Panama City and used to put
> > Channel 13 WDTB-TV (Denver T. Brannon) which is now
> WMBB-TV.
> > I remember looking over the equipment that was stored in
> an
> > upstairs area of an office building he owned in downtown
> > Panama City in either 1971, 1972 or 1973...I can't
> remember
> > exactly. WDTB-TV went on the air in 1974 in Panama City.
> >
> > Charlie Wooten
> > Clear Channel Radio
> > Panama City
> >
>
 
Re: KHMA antenna?

> > Hey Charlie, I'm curious if WDTB also took the KHMA tower
> or
> > antenna. I have a memory of driving along the bayou with
> my
> > folks and wondering what was that thing by the road. After
> I
> > started working in Lousisiana and realized what it was --
> > the "thing" being the monster bat-wing antenna on what I
> > recall as a short but beefy tower -- I could never again
> > find the site or the tower. Anyone know where it was?
> >
> > Paul E. Burt
> > BMP Radio of San Antonio


I thought I remember it being on a small tower near what people told me and showed me what was supposed to be the studios on US Highway 90 (Bayou Black) West of Houma going to Gibson (The road is now called Highway 182)in a cane field. Don't know if I'm right or wrong due to it being years ago when it was shown to me.

RFLA
 
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