New Program Director at The Band

[Geek-O-Rama]

All Access says Dave Logan has been replaced att 103.7 The Band by the Program Director of KISQ Ricci Filiar. I thought the Band was doing pretty good for a station with no live jocks or any full time employees except for Logan.
Will there be format changes?

 

[DyingMedium]

It's October....and for Clog Channel, that means budget cutting time! This should be the first of a few, if the yearly routine holds true.

 

[HenryOchs]

All Access says Dave Logan has been replaced att 103.7 The Band by the Program Director of KISQ Ricci Filiar. I thought the Band was doing pretty good for a station with no live jocks or any full time employees except for Logan.
Will there be format changes?

Maybe to Oldies?

 

[travisl5678]

No live jocks? What about the morning and afternoon shows? I doubt it will change formats in the near future.

 

[IO]

Scott Struber is live, local and full-time (APD/MD/PM Drive).

 

[kenrayc]

CC will switch 103.7 at the first of the year to "The Beat " GEN X R&B of the 80s and 90s, CC did it in Fresno with KRZR a long time Rocker for 21 years that was all local, up to 10 PM, now The Beat is part of CCs national format.

 

[IO]

CC will switch 103.7 at the first of the year to "The Beat " GEN X R&B of the 80s and 90s, CC did it in Fresno with KRZR a long time Rocker for 21 years that was all local, up to 10 PM, now The Beat is part of CCs national format.

Completely disagree. They already completely changed the format in moving on from smooth jazz. In a PPM world, that's ratings suicide unless you're willing to spend 3-5 million marketing it. And there is no way CC is gonna steer away from rock when they're cuming more than any of the other rock stations. Plus, NO way they'll spend that kind of money on a complete
rebrand.

 

[LKellerIII]

CC will switch 103.7 at the first of the year to "The Beat " GEN X R&B of the 80s and 90s, CC did it in Fresno with KRZR a long time Rocker for 21 years that was all local, up to 10 PM, now The Beat is part of CCs national format.

Completely disagree. They already completely changed the format in moving on from smooth jazz. In a PPM world, that's ratings suicide unless you're willing to spend 3-5 million marketing it. And there is no way CC is gonna steer away from rock when they're cuming more than any of the other rock stations. Plus, NO way they'll spend that kind of money on a complete
rebrand.

Also, remember that CC tried to do more or less the same thing earlier this year with Kiss-FM - mixing in a whole lot more 80s and 90s R&B with it's mostly 70s format - and re-branding as "The Beat of the Bay.". It only lasted a couple of months, at best, then they returned to basically the same 70s intensive "Old School" format that they've been using for the last dozen years.

 

[Jay F]

CC will switch 103.7 at the first of the year to "The Beat " GEN X R&B of the 80s and 90s, CC did it in Fresno with KRZR a long time Rocker for 21 years that was all local, up to 10 PM, now The Beat is part of CCs national format.

Completely disagree. They already completely changed the format in moving on from smooth jazz. In a PPM world, that's ratings suicide unless you're willing to spend 3-5 million marketing it. And there is no way CC is gonna steer away from rock when they're cuming more than any of the other rock stations. Plus, NO way they'll spend that kind of money on a complete
rebrand.

Also, remember that CC tried to do more or less the same thing earlier this year with Kiss-FM - mixing in a whole lot more 80s and 90s R&B with it's mostly 70s format - and re-branding as "The Beat of the Bay.". It only lasted a couple of months, at best, then they returned to basically the same 70s intensive "Old School" format that they've been using for the last dozen years.

Plus even if KISS is 70s based there is no way CC would give them an inhouse Gen X Urban oldies competitor.

 

[Madmansam]

CC will switch 103.7 at the first of the year to "The Beat " GEN X R&B of the 80s and 90s, CC did it in Fresno with KRZR a long time Rocker for 21 years that was all local, up to 10 PM, now The Beat is part of CCs national format.

Completely disagree. They already completely changed the format in moving on from smooth jazz. In a PPM world, that's ratings suicide unless you're willing to spend 3-5 million marketing it. And there is no way CC is gonna steer away from rock when they're cuming more than any of the other rock stations. Plus, NO way they'll spend that kind of money on a complete
rebrand.

Also, remember that CC tried to do more or less the same thing earlier this year with Kiss-FM - mixing in a whole lot more 80s and 90s R&B with it's mostly 70s format - and re-branding as "The Beat of the Bay.". It only lasted a couple of months, at best, then they returned to basically the same 70s intensive "Old School" format that they've been using for the last dozen years.

Plus even if KISS is 70s based there is no way CC would give them an inhouse Gen X Urban oldies competitor.

I agree with you Jay. I doubt very much that KKSF will switch. However doesn't CC own two radio stations in San Francisco which compete against each other? Aren't the formats of both KYLD-94.9 & KMEL-106.1 similar. I know one is Rhythmic CHR while the other is Urban, but what difference are those two stations when it comes to the songs that they both play?

 

[Jay F]

That's a good point about KYLD and KMEL (even if their playlists are pretty seperated from each other) But Urban oldies is more of a niche format to begin with and it's more unusual if not unheard of for one cluster to have two different versions of it.

 

[kenrayc]

CC will switch 103.7 at the first of the year to "The Beat " GEN X R&B of the 80s and 90s, CC did it in Fresno with KRZR a long time Rocker for 21 years that was all local, up to 10 PM, now The Beat is part of CCs national format.

Completely disagree. They already completely changed the format in moving on from smooth jazz. In a PPM world, that's ratings suicide unless you're willing to spend 3-5 million marketing it. And there is no way CC is gonna steer away from rock when they're cuming more than any of the other rock stations. Plus, NO way they'll spend that kind of money on a complete
rebrand.

Also, remember that CC tried to do more or less the same thing earlier this year with Kiss-FM - mixing in a whole lot more 80s and 90s R&B with it's mostly 70s format - and re-branding as "The Beat of the Bay.". It only lasted a couple of months, at best, then they returned to basically the same 70s intensive "Old School" format that they've been using for the last dozen years.

Plus even if KISS is 70s based there is no way CC would give them an inhouse Gen X Urban oldies competitor.

I agree with you Jay. I doubt very much that KKSF will switch. However doesn't CC own two radio stations in San Francisco which compete against each other? Aren't the formats of both KYLD-94.9 & KMEL-106.1 similar. I know one is Rhythmic CHR while the other is Urban, but what difference are those two stations when it comes to the songs that they both play?

Same with 98.5 The Fox and KKSF The Band, not much difference between those two stations, of course The Fox has to be sold and may end up a brokered ethnic station owned by Princple.

 

[LKellerIII]

CC will switch 103.7 at the first of the year to "The Beat " GEN X R&B of the 80s and 90s, CC did it in Fresno with KRZR a long time Rocker for 21 years that was all local, up to 10 PM, now The Beat is part of CCs national format.

Completely disagree. They already completely changed the format in moving on from smooth jazz. In a PPM world, that's ratings suicide unless you're willing to spend 3-5 million marketing it. And there is no way CC is gonna steer away from rock when they're cuming more than any of the other rock stations. Plus, NO way they'll spend that kind of money on a complete
rebrand.

Also, remember that CC tried to do more or less the same thing earlier this year with Kiss-FM - mixing in a whole lot more 80s and 90s R&B with it's mostly 70s format - and re-branding as "The Beat of the Bay.". It only lasted a couple of months, at best, then they returned to basically the same 70s intensive "Old School" format that they've been using for the last dozen years.

Plus even if KISS is 70s based there is no way CC would give them an inhouse Gen X Urban oldies competitor.

I agree with you Jay. I doubt very much that KKSF will switch. However doesn't CC own two radio stations in San Francisco which compete against each other? Aren't the formats of both KYLD-94.9 & KMEL-106.1 similar. I know one is Rhythmic CHR while the other is Urban, but what difference are those two stations when it comes to the songs that they both play?

My uneducated answer as a listener only: that's a little different. KYLD (Wild 107) and KMEL were direct competitors under different owners until CC bought them. If you recall, KMEL generally dominated the ratings race, but Wild scored well too from time to time - especially with Mancow locally in the morning, and later with The Doghouse before those two guys imploded. Once CC owned both, they basically owned the CHR format in market #4.

If they had flipped one of the two (logically the lower rated KYLD at the time), a competiting owner probably would have flipped one of their stations to compete with KMEL. That didn't happen until recently - when Movin' more or less morphed into CHR.

Also, I'd think that splitting up the smaller Old school/80s/90s soul demographic would be ill-advised - especially when KISQ is already sharing much of the Old School audience with KBLX.

 

[BossRadioDJ]

...of course The Fox has to be sold and may end up a brokered ethnic station owned by Princple.

Does it really? At this point, I think either the FCC* has decided to look the other way on KUFX, or CC figures that nobody is paying attention, so they'll just hang on to it until someone remembers.

And I'm not at all certain that Principle wants 98.5 now. They may be putting all their eggs in the 860 AM basket...

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* - The Federal Communications Commission, not to be confused with Friends of Clear Channel.

 

[1069_KIFR]

I think CC looks at WiLD 94.9 and 106 KMEL as being far enough apart on the FM Band, that they hedge their bets that listeners will tune into one or the other.