New Radio Service Will Reportedly be Tested Nearby

[nd2023]

Nah, internet radio won't dominate and here's why:

1. Cost per listener. A radio station's cost whether 5,000,000, 5,000 or 5 people are listening is the same. The transmitter is on, and the signal is available in the coverage area. On the web, each listener costs a station in two things: Bandwidth and royalties. Each listener is, for the sake of example, 48kbps of bandwidth. Let's say you have a high rated morning show and have 450,000 people tuning in at the same time, that equates to almost 2.6GBps of data going out!!!!! Yikes!!!!

2. Cost TO the listener. Now that cellular providers are getting stingy with the mobile bandwidth, people aren't going to want to go over their plan and pay extra just to listen to something that already exists on their car radio.

3. Limited bandwidth. The cellular companies also have limited bandwidth in any given geographic area, due to the nature of RF. Let's say your high volume morning show (in listeners not loudness) plus every other station has each person waiting to go into the Lincoln Tunnel tuned in to a station and pulling down at minimum 48kbps. Good luck trying to make an actual phone call when that is going on. If the providers need to carry more bandwidth and put in more cell sites for support, then everyone's prices go up.

A point to point model is not cost effective for broadcasting. It's different where there can be fiber or a cable modem in every home, and there is adequate bandwidth (for now) to carry the traffic. With RF, there are only little slices of the spectrum to fit everything in and still manage to make all the services work.

The cost of bandwidth decreases every year. Wholesale bandwidth costs pennies per gigabyte now, and will decrease in the future. Eventually, unlimited data plans will win out, when 5G or 6G offers enough bandwidth that the cell companies won't be short of bandwidth.

I wasn't predicting about Internet radio now, I was predicting about it 10 years from now. Remember 10 years ago when most of us were on dialup, most stations didn't stream, we never even thought about the smartphone. Technology changes a lot in 10 years.

 

[Ai4i]

Languages will include...Pakistani...Haitian...and many more.

We hope they will learn what Urdu, Pashto, and Creole are before they launch

 

[WNTIRadio]

The cost of bandwidth decreases every year. Wholesale bandwidth costs pennies per gigabyte now, and will decrease in the future. Eventually, unlimited data plans will win out, when 5G or 6G offers enough bandwidth that the cell companies won't be short of bandwidth.

I wasn't predicting about Internet radio now, I was predicting about it 10 years from now. Remember 10 years ago when most of us were on dialup, most stations didn't stream, we never even thought about the smartphone. Technology changes a lot in 10 years.

For the consumer, I'm talking wireless bandwidth, and there's only so much RF that it can be packed into in a single spot. If 900 other people are also downloading, it chokes the bandwidth. Ever try to look at a webpage at a concert? Or even send a text?

10G doesn't matter, the laws of physics are in place on this one. Home delivery is a different story.

 

[davideduardo]

Languages will include...Pakistani...Haitian...and many more.

We hope they will learn what Urdu, Pashto, and Creole are before they launch

Or, perhaps, Kreyol, which is the proper term for Haitian Creole.

http://www.kreyol.com/dictionary.html

 

[ProducerGuy]

I know it's a side point, but I'd like to go off on a tangent a bit.

Internet broadcasting will not "dominate" until several things happen.

1. Bandwidth must be able to handle the load of many simultaneous users.

2. 4G or better coverage must be EVERYWHERE. This one is a big advantage of radio.

3. Data plans will have to be cheap or (once again) unlimited and included with the calling plan. Once network capability is there, the carriers will start offering unlimited data again. But this takes time.

4. Internet receivers will have to be standard equipment in all new cars.

5. Old cars with AM/FM radios will have to be cycled off the road. (This alone will take 20 years.) This is where most listening is done.

That "10 years" just turned into 40. Radio isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I'd be willing to bet my 16 year old kid will be a grandparent before FM radio is put to rest by the FCC and the spectrum used by something else. Maybe a great grandparent.

 

[Ai4i]

Or, perhaps, Kreyol, which is the proper term for Haitian Creole.
http://www.kreyol.com/dictionary.html

You are one of the few posters on these boards from whom I always learn something

 

[badjef]

Or, perhaps, Kreyol, which is the proper term for Haitian Creole.
http://www.kreyol.com/dictionary.html

You are one of the few posters on these boards from whom I always learn something

Ditto, that!

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[davideduardo]

Or, perhaps, Kreyol, which is the proper term for Haitian Creole.
http://www.kreyol.com/dictionary.html

You are one of the few posters on these boards from whom I always learn something

;D

I didn't know that it wasn't "Creole" until I saw one of those English-Spanish-Kreyol "no solicitors" signs at some hotel on Le Jeune. What's really interesting is that the spelling is full of "k" instead of "que" and such. I suppose it all comes out of the fact that at one time illiteracy in Haiti exceeded 90% of the population.

 

[badjef]

Or, perhaps, Kreyol, which is the proper term for Haitian Creole.
http://www.kreyol.com/dictionary.html

You are one of the few posters on these boards from whom I always learn something

;D

I didn't know that it wasn't "Creole" until I saw one of those English-Spanish-Kreyol "no solicitors" signs at some hotel on Le Jeune. What's really interesting is that the spelling is full of "k" instead of "que" and such. I suppose it all comes out of the fact that at one time illiteracy in Haiti exceeded 90% of the population.

It was a good day.

But, I don't think illiteracy explains says it all.

Check out the words,"Bronx", as in NYC, or "St. Armand's Circle", here, in Sa-ra-so-ta!, or, the word "key" proliferating the coast line of Florida.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[Ai4i]

I didn't know that it wasn't "Creole" until I saw one of those English-Spanish-Kreyol "no solicitors" signs at some hotel on Le Jeune.

Perhaps Kreyol and Español are native language words but Creole and Spanish are English language words?
Then perhaps the sign should have read English-Español-Kreyol, in the three native languages?

 

[badjef]

I didn't know that it wasn't "Creole" until I saw one of those English-Spanish-Kreyol "no solicitors" signs at some hotel on Le Jeune.

Perhaps Kreyol and Español are native language words but Creole and Spanish are English language words?
Then perhaps the sign should have read English-Español-Kreyol, in the three native languages

Global Websites do that. Add French, Chinese (sorry, since I don't read Manderine or Cantonese, I can't tell you if they distinguish between the two), and German, all spelled in the native language for the link.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[Ai4i]

If I ever accidentally change my Smartphone or GPS navigation aid to function in a middle eastern or far eastern script, I will be here with these call letters

 

[ProducerGuy]

If I ever accidentally change my Smartphone or GPS navigation aid to function in a middle eastern or far eastern script, I will be here with these call letters

It's funny you should bring that up. I was trying to type the word "what" in my phone today and it kept coming out in some weird combination of letters. Turns out I had switched my phone to Estonian language. I didn't even know my phone HAD Estonian language settings.