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New WLFJ translators

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carolinaradio

I see WLFJ has construction permits to move some of their translators in the Greenville area (if Radio-Locator is correct):

W225AZ-FM 92.9 would move to Greenville from Hendersonville with 250w: http://www.radio-locator.com/info/W225AZ-FX

W239AT-FM 95.7 would move to Greenville from Mauldin with 100w at 96.3: http://www.radio-locator.com/info/W239AT-FX

They also have a translator at 94.9 now I see licensed to Mauldin. What's going on? I know they've always been a little weird with the translators (actually, they've sold a few lately I think), but do they really have that bad of signal issues? 89.3 covers the area fine, I've never seen the use for some of the translators they have as it is. It's baffling....unless they are going to use them for their WHRZ project which is on countless translators.
 
carolinaradio said:
I see WLFJ has construction permits to move some of their translators in the Greenville area (if Radio-Locator is correct):

W225AZ-FM 92.9 would move to Greenville from Hendersonville with 250w: http://www.radio-locator.com/info/W225AZ-FX

W239AT-FM 95.7 would move to Greenville from Mauldin with 100w at 96.3: http://www.radio-locator.com/info/W239AT-FX

They also have a translator at 94.9 now I see licensed to Mauldin. What's going on? I know they've always been a little weird with the translators (actually, they've sold a few lately I think), but do they really have that bad of signal issues? 89.3 covers the area fine, I've never seen the use for some of the translators they have as it is. It's baffling....unless they are going to use them for their WHRZ project which is on countless translators.
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...Or a repeater of a HD-2. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the FCC recently permitted this on a "trial" basis. I think WSIM in Florence was one of the first, playing an adult hits format on a 250w 97.1 translator that is originating from 93.7.

Radio-X
(armchair FCC legal advisor)
 
upstate29651 said:
Yay @ more "Radio Jeebus". Not.

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Agree. Then they have a beg-a-thon wanting money which partly goes to run translators they don't need. The 95.9 one that WDRF is on now was a total waste of money.

WHRZ, the "christian CHR" LPFM and translators, is their HD-2 I think. So it may be to relay that. These people have so many translators it's a joke.
 
Oh yeah, if you are a religious group, or minority, you can get all the breaks. Total green light, not available for the rest of us! WLFJ has 3-4 translators in Henderson Co. ALONE! Total nonsense.
 
The 92.9 translator is on and relaying WLFJ 660. The signal is mono and it definitely gets out. It is pretty clear on the west side of Spartanburg and noisy, but listenable, on the east side.
 
I have listened to that a lot since Sunday. No way that 92.9 is legal. It booms in parts of Henderson Co!
They should be 200-250 watts. No way. Their ERP far exceeds that. I guess since they are religious, it will be overlooked! I want to see if they get into 92.9 in Aiken's coverage at all.
 
Are you sure you don't mean 92.9 in Abbeville? 96.7 is equivalent to 6k watts, this is just supposed to be 250w.

I listened to the new 92.9 this morning and they are present and accounted for below Simpsonville. It comes in very well in places where the Abbeville station was listenable. Something's up. Does anybody even listen to the programming they carry? :-\
 
Yeah...I meant Abbeville. I enjoy 660, and listen many mornings, but that new translator, LPFM, or whatever it is, is not legal. They moved it from Henderson Co. but it still booms up there.
 
NO JOKE!! ??? WROO on 96.7 w/700w does not hold a candle to the new 92.9 signal, it can't be 250w- NO WAY!!!!!! Something stinks here! Why 660 on 92.9? 50kw on 660 not potent?
 
Folks, don't forget that despite being 50 kW, 660 is a daytimer. The translator gives them a 24 hour presence in Greenville and the surrounding area. It is 9:00 p.m. here and the 660 programming is booming in on 92.9 while 660 is off. The audio quality on 660 rivals that of some FM's and with 50 kW it has a large coverage area, but it is unfortunately handicapped by having to sign-off at sundown.
 
more kilowatts said:
Folks, don't forget that despite being 50 kW, 660 is a daytimer. The translator gives them a 24 hour presence in Greenville and the surrounding area. It is 9:00 p.m. here and the 660 programming is booming in on 92.9 while 660 is off. The audio quality on 660 rivals that of some FM's and with 50 kW it has a large coverage area, but it is unfortunately handicapped by having to sign-off at sundown.
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I don't know about the 660 audience, but add the fact also that many listeners avoid AM like the plague.

I've heard good things about their morning show, haven't ever heard about anything else. They used to have Dave Ramsey which was pretty big.
 
carolinaradio said:
I don't know about the 660 audience, but add the fact also that many listeners avoid AM like the plague.
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Agreed. Most factory car systems sound terrible on AM. I admit I haven't listened to AM regularly in years. I had a 2004 Dodge Ram truck with the factory radio that sounded great on AM. Good sensitivity and low noise. Sounded almost as good as some FM stations. I bet most listeners in range of the translator will switch to 92.9. Makes you wonder if the plan is to eventually eliminate 660 and the high cost to operate a 50 kW station.
 
I totally understand the reason, to provide coverage for 660 at night, something they have never had. That's great. I personally like the morning show. Tony does a great job. That little FM though is not legal. Covering the immediate Greenville area is fine, not booming up into Henderson Co! Due to their programming, little would be done about 'pushing the envelope' legally.
 
I don't know where the WLFJ transmitter is located, I haven't looked it up but I wonder what effect this has on the Dillion 92.9 100KW station on the fringes. We are on 92.9 on our LPFM WLRE here in Elloree which has been on low power since it's change from 105.5 we were able to stay on low power since we have two translators but that will change in the next few weeks as the antennas are retuned and will be going back on the tower shortly.
 
The 92.9 translator is located on Paris Mountain at the WLFJ-FM 89.3 TX site. The FCC record does not list 92.9's HAAT but it does list height above sea level as 652 meters, close to what 89.3's height is. WROO on 96.7 is also on Paris Mountain in a different area with a height at 590 meters above sea level, HAAT of 288 meters. That few extra meters may explain why 92.9 at 250 watts is getting out so far. Both are using directional antennas with patterns aimed in opposite directions for the most part.
 
Since the commission let the genie out of the translator bottle, many are not operating legally. The entire industry has little regulation now. The little FMs are not supposed to have near Class A coverage! It is ridiculous! When they had the 92.9 up on Pinnacle Mtn. it wasn't legal either!! You could hear it up 240 above Weaverville. Total nonsense. 'His Radio' has 5 or more in the Asheville-Hendersonville area anyway!
 
92.9's mono signal helps the coverage a great deal. Is 96.7 directional to protect 96.5 in Asheville? Their coverage seems better towards the south/west.

I wonder if they plan to put 660 on some more of the translators they have? It would be difficult to move to FM probably. My 2005 Chevy has a terrible AM receiver. All of them except 660 are almost unlistenable outside of Greenville and even bad in parts of the city. Older truck has much clearer reception, especially with 1440 (1330 still sounds bad). They have a fantastic signal at 660, but having no nighttime coverage kills it. That is why CC doesn't bother with it.
 
I Seen the 92.9 listed as 250 watts......I guess it was a typo, should had been 2500w!!!! Anybody talk to the staff at LFJ? No way 250 does that kind of signal!!!
 
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