What we're talking about is a replacement for 880 AM. That replacement is the 880App.
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What we're talking about is a replacement for 880 AM. That replacement is the 880App.
As cellular broadband becomes increasingly ubiquitous and reliable, I would expect to see cars offering built-in internet tuners. So your presets might be a mix of terrestrial radio and streaming sources. This would be accomplished with a data plan for your car, similar to a data plan you might get for your iPad.
Their only source of income are station licenses and royalties on chips that use their technology. How else would they make money?
And for which you will spend money.
Michael Hagerty, our car expert, is on vacation or I would ask him about the percentage of cars on the road that were bough used and not new. Those cars are less likely to have those features you describe, and economy minded owners will be less likely to spend on a monthly in-car data stream.
The average car is over 11 years old now, and that means that half of them are over that age. And the average consumer can not afford a wide variety of streaming and entertainment fees in their monthly budget.
I'll bet the Mets are not that many years away from demanding their games get aired on an FM signal like so many other major league teams have already done.
So why not turn off all the FM transmitters then? The reason is radio broadcasters are in the business of running FM radio stations and in New York they still make tens of millions of dollars from each signal every year.
That app now competes with everything else streaming on your phone. Instead of 20 FCC FM radio licenses there are a thousand... tens of thousands... maybe hundreds of thousands of streaming radio stations from around the world to choose from. Not to mention a Hey Siri / Hey Google command to give you the local headlines along with countless news apps and websites a tap away, all on the same device where the 880 app resides.
Besides, is there even an 880 app? Or is is just on the Odyssey app? Whoops, can't find that one.
Were there ever royalties on the chips and technology required for AM or FM broadcasts?
The digital system approved by the FCC should have likewise been open source and royalty free.
That's not what I'm saying. Craig Karmazin turned down a chance to buy 98.7 and is just going to run WEPN on AM and online. Just like WCBS. If it works for Craig, and he has deals with two major sports teams, than it should work just fine for WCBS and the Mets. What I'm saying is that just putting WCBS on 94.7 isn't the end game.
A dedicated app downloaded on your phone is as selective as a transistor radio. Once you download the app, it's no longer a needle in a haystack. No one has thousands of apps on their phone. I have four. All WCBS needs to do is be one of the apps that people regularly check on their phone. They do it with compelling content, just like they do it on the radio. The future is not FM. My house doesn't have a radio. Everything runs off my ISP, including TV and phone.
How many stations on each?
Show me a station with meaningful streaming numbers in New York. WFAN is the top one with a 1.1 share and it's an outlier. Once someone enters streaming world the pie gets sliced up into so many pieces everyone is going to starve. I don't know about you but once I've decided to go to my phone, those four radio apps take a back seat to Spotify, never mind even discussing which station to choose. And when I do choose radio it's nearly always a station out of market, and usually out of the country.
You're basing that on Nielsen. Stations have other more direct ways to measure streaming that isn't public.
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WTF did someone remove my post about alternative? WTF is up with all the alternative hate in here?!?!?
They've already invested in the future. This is what it looks like:
Download it to your phone, and it's always there. Crystal clear sound, not AM radio.
You need to listen more closely, it's the Audacity app. I haven't had the audacy to try it yet but I have a clown one from this blogging company. Apparently they also have some radio stations too.
Regarding the discussion earlier in this thread concerning 94.7 The Block- Audacy shifted WPOW in Miami yesterday to a throwback format that appears to be similar. That could possibly be an indication the format is meeting their expectations in New York.
Throwbacks on WPOW in Miami
Throwbacks on WPOW in Miami
It's about time!
What a radio market Miami Ft Lauderdale has become!
MIA looks like a consistent winner with a new common sense format and now WPOW is going to bring back it's winning formula of being a special station in a special unique one of its kind markets!
Expect Will C to quickly get Power 96 back to it's former glory and to be taking lots of audience and tsl from Cox!
This is a big win for everyone except Cox Broadcasting.
The Block sounded NYC when I heard it last, so I think it's just the signal that is the issue here, but they should be listening hard to their Miami sister on an even greater class on how to sound your market and own it's musical and cultural history!
RE: News radio demographics
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Also, the apps are great if you have solid coverage. But what happens when the disasters hit and the cellular network fails or is overloaded? We had a power outage recently where I live. Got me thinking...once your phone battery dies, where do you turn for information when something more severe happens? Radio, is my obvious answer.
How 1010 WINS Reshaped Its Sound to Appeal to Gen X and Millennials
"If you think about it, those folks are now 35, 40, 45, 50. They're the news consumers of today...so I said to myself 'What do they want?'"
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Also, the apps are great if you have solid coverage. But what happens when the disasters hit and the cellular network fails or is overloaded? We had a power outage recently where I live. Got me thinking...once your phone battery dies, where do you turn for information when something more severe happens? Radio, is my obvious answer.
Thanks for perpetuating the myth. Let's check in with Houston to see how that went for the past week.
So 2023 was the first full year of the Block, not including the first few months of 2022 which still had its initial “discount” billing. So, David, from a revenue standpoint, how did it do last year? Was it at least billing better than the Country station?
What David should have written was median age, where half the cars on the road are younger than 11 years, and half are older than 11 years. That takes into account that there are more vehicles on the road from recent model years, but the universe of vehicles from older model years spans a longer period of time. (Example: I happened to be parked next to an early 1950's-era van yesterday. That's a ~70 y/o vehicle.) But as you point out, averages are more subject to the vagaries of the particular samples being averaged.
I think FM is the continuing future for broadcast radio. Apps and the internet are important, but likely won't be the driving factor for a long time to come. GKB has 1050 to keep the program on the radio dial for casual listeners. That sports station in Indianapolis has FM translators to keep them on the dial. Advertisers will want to be on something that has broadcasting capability. HD, Apps and web only 'stations' have to be sought out. Particularly with HD radio, I think there is generally a paucity of actual advertising.
Therefore, as I expect WEPN to do just fine with 1050 and an App, WCBS can do just fine with a similar setup.
If a broadcast host or radio format is off terrestrial radio, they are OFF THE AIR. Howard Stern lost a lot of impact when he left for the Sirius. Rudy Guliani will have no impact unless he can get someone to put him on somewhere. Not exactly terrestrial, but a similar result, Tucker Carlson has lost impact when he got bounced from Fox. Alternative or Country might be on an HD channel, but they won't get advertising or have impact. Unless you are on the terrestrial waves somehow, you're hardly significant.
A future for AM might be the broadcast and an App. What if an also-ran AM tried putting an unserved music format on (example Alternative) and pumped the heck out of "accessing us on our App"? Advertisers get broadcast coverage and listeners get crystal clear sound. If you had an otherwise money losing major market AM operation (example 1190), wouldn't it be something to try?
Just because someone has an older car doesn't mean they aren't streaming. There are lots of inexpensive aftermarket head units for those older cars that support easy connectivity to your phone. Chances are a high percentage of those people are streaming ad-supported Spotify and the like, though.
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