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New York Missing FOrmats
- Thread starter e-dawg
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> 1. Country
> 2. Rock (starting 1/01/06)
> 3. Alternative
> 4. Oldies
> 5. Adult Standards
> 6. Adult Album Alternative
> 7. Regional Mexican
> 8. Classic Hits (not classic rock)
>
e-dawg:
The longer New York goes without those formats, it'll become harder to get them back on the air because people die off or move away.
We have a full time Classical music station WQXR 96.3FM and they've built generations of listenership. So 20 years from they may still have a strong listener base.
When it comes to Standards, I'm sure there are some 40-50 year olds like myself second generation WNEW-AM listeners who would like to to see a return of Pop Standards. But all we need is one station serving the NY Metro area and this station could achieve a respectable 2.5 share.
On the New York Radio Message Board, there's a thread about the return of Country music in New York.
Thanks,<P ID="signature">______________
Kevin L. Sealy</P>
> 2. Rock (starting 1/01/06)
> 3. Alternative
> 4. Oldies
> 5. Adult Standards
> 6. Adult Album Alternative
> 7. Regional Mexican
> 8. Classic Hits (not classic rock)
>
e-dawg:
The longer New York goes without those formats, it'll become harder to get them back on the air because people die off or move away.
We have a full time Classical music station WQXR 96.3FM and they've built generations of listenership. So 20 years from they may still have a strong listener base.
When it comes to Standards, I'm sure there are some 40-50 year olds like myself second generation WNEW-AM listeners who would like to to see a return of Pop Standards. But all we need is one station serving the NY Metro area and this station could achieve a respectable 2.5 share.
On the New York Radio Message Board, there's a thread about the return of Country music in New York.
Thanks,<P ID="signature">______________
Kevin L. Sealy</P>
> 1. Country
--Yeah, that's a big hole. Rustles a lot of feathers on this board though.
> 2. Rock (starting 1/01/06)
> 3. Alternative
--The rock format has been plagued as of late, mostly because of crappy music. I'm not lying, many rock listeners don't really like what's new, and have dived back to classic rock. Alternative may have the edge though, perhaps having a hybrid alternative/adult alternative station would be a good solution.
> 4. Oldies
--What a bunch of nit-wits at Infinity. Bring back WCBS-FM, and do it right!
> 5. Adult Standards
--There are plenty of AM stations in the area, I'm sure it wouldn't kill one of them to give it a try.
> 6. Adult Album Alternative
--See rock above. Also, there is an AAA station north of town on 107.1, doesn't make it into the city though.
> 7. Regional Mexican
--You see this format more in the south and southwest. Here in the northeast, they call it "tropical."
> 8. Classic Hits (not classic rock)
--I doubt NYC would see this. Q104.3 is doing fine the way it is. Plus, oldies really isn't oldies anymore, it has evolved to classic hits, which is basically '64 to '85-ish. If WCBS-FM were to come back, it may be more like this.
Jacko
<P ID="signature">______________
I live for my dream,
And a pocket full of gold.
</P>
--Yeah, that's a big hole. Rustles a lot of feathers on this board though.
> 2. Rock (starting 1/01/06)
> 3. Alternative
--The rock format has been plagued as of late, mostly because of crappy music. I'm not lying, many rock listeners don't really like what's new, and have dived back to classic rock. Alternative may have the edge though, perhaps having a hybrid alternative/adult alternative station would be a good solution.
> 4. Oldies
--What a bunch of nit-wits at Infinity. Bring back WCBS-FM, and do it right!
> 5. Adult Standards
--There are plenty of AM stations in the area, I'm sure it wouldn't kill one of them to give it a try.
> 6. Adult Album Alternative
--See rock above. Also, there is an AAA station north of town on 107.1, doesn't make it into the city though.
> 7. Regional Mexican
--You see this format more in the south and southwest. Here in the northeast, they call it "tropical."
> 8. Classic Hits (not classic rock)
--I doubt NYC would see this. Q104.3 is doing fine the way it is. Plus, oldies really isn't oldies anymore, it has evolved to classic hits, which is basically '64 to '85-ish. If WCBS-FM were to come back, it may be more like this.
Jacko
<P ID="signature">______________
I live for my dream,
And a pocket full of gold.
</P>
Will 92.3 continue to play rock music on nights and weekends? If so, do think will be alternative (Free FM WHFS) or active leaning (Free FM WYSP).
~Just out of curiosity~ StereoBrain~
~Just out of curiosity~ StereoBrain~
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> Will 92.3 continue to play rock music on nights and
> weekends? If so, do think will be alternative (Free FM WHFS)
> or active leaning (Free FM WYSP).
> ~Just out of curiosity~ StereoBrain~
>
They said they will be playing Rock on the weekends. My guess would be the current format you would hear now.
> weekends? If so, do think will be alternative (Free FM WHFS)
> or active leaning (Free FM WYSP).
> ~Just out of curiosity~ StereoBrain~
>
They said they will be playing Rock on the weekends. My guess would be the current format you would hear now.
> > 7. Regional Mexican
> --You see this format more in the south and southwest. Here
> in the northeast, they call it "tropical."
>
Tropical is not regional Mexican at all. Tropical is simply a hispanic format.
No hispanic radio station caters to Mexicans in NYC. Most hispanics in this market are from PR, SD and South America thus the reason there is no Mexican formatted station.<P ID="signature">______________
www.airamericaradio.com
</P>
> --You see this format more in the south and southwest. Here
> in the northeast, they call it "tropical."
>
Tropical is not regional Mexican at all. Tropical is simply a hispanic format.
No hispanic radio station caters to Mexicans in NYC. Most hispanics in this market are from PR, SD and South America thus the reason there is no Mexican formatted station.<P ID="signature">______________
www.airamericaradio.com
</P>
>>
> > 7. Regional Mexican
> --You see this format more in the south and southwest. Here
> in the northeast, they call it "tropical."
Tropical is a different format than regional Mexican. There is, in fact, a Mexican tropical format and a Caribbean one!
> > 7. Regional Mexican
> --You see this format more in the south and southwest. Here
> in the northeast, they call it "tropical."
Tropical is a different format than regional Mexican. There is, in fact, a Mexican tropical format and a Caribbean one!
> > > 7. Regional Mexican
> > --You see this format more in the south and southwest.
> Here
> > in the northeast, they call it "tropical."
> >
> Tropical is not regional Mexican at all. Tropical is simply
> a hispanic format.
> No hispanic radio station caters to Mexicans in NYC. Most
> hispanics in this market are from PR, SD and South America
> thus the reason there is no Mexican formatted station.
Actually, both WCAA and WPAT-FM do cater to Mexicans, and a significant part of their listeners are Mexican. Regional Mexican appealse to some, not all, Mexicans, just as Caribbean tropical only appeals to some folks from the Caribbean.
> > --You see this format more in the south and southwest.
> Here
> > in the northeast, they call it "tropical."
> >
> Tropical is not regional Mexican at all. Tropical is simply
> a hispanic format.
> No hispanic radio station caters to Mexicans in NYC. Most
> hispanics in this market are from PR, SD and South America
> thus the reason there is no Mexican formatted station.
Actually, both WCAA and WPAT-FM do cater to Mexicans, and a significant part of their listeners are Mexican. Regional Mexican appealse to some, not all, Mexicans, just as Caribbean tropical only appeals to some folks from the Caribbean.
> 1. Country
> 2. Rock (starting 1/01/06)
> 3. Alternative
> 4. Oldies
> 5. Adult Standards
> 6. Adult Album Alternative
> 7. Regional Mexican
> 8. Classic Hits (not classic rock)
>
Isn't WFUV (90.7) adult album alternative?
TS
> 2. Rock (starting 1/01/06)
> 3. Alternative
> 4. Oldies
> 5. Adult Standards
> 6. Adult Album Alternative
> 7. Regional Mexican
> 8. Classic Hits (not classic rock)
>
Isn't WFUV (90.7) adult album alternative?
TS
> > > 7. Regional Mexican
> > --You see this format more in the south and southwest.
> Here
> > in the northeast, they call it "tropical."
> >
> Tropical is not regional Mexican at all. Tropical is simply
> a hispanic format.
> No hispanic radio station caters to Mexicans in NYC. Most
> hispanics in this market are from PR, SD and South America
> thus the reason there is no Mexican formatted station.
>
I know this, maybe I worded it wrong. I meant to say that you see tropical stations in the northeast (typically) and Regional Mexican stations in the south and southwest.
Jacko<P ID="signature">______________
I live for my dream,
And a pocket full of gold.
</P>
> > --You see this format more in the south and southwest.
> Here
> > in the northeast, they call it "tropical."
> >
> Tropical is not regional Mexican at all. Tropical is simply
> a hispanic format.
> No hispanic radio station caters to Mexicans in NYC. Most
> hispanics in this market are from PR, SD and South America
> thus the reason there is no Mexican formatted station.
>
I know this, maybe I worded it wrong. I meant to say that you see tropical stations in the northeast (typically) and Regional Mexican stations in the south and southwest.
Jacko<P ID="signature">______________
I live for my dream,
And a pocket full of gold.
</P>
> > > > 7. Regional Mexican
> > > --You see this format more in the south and southwest.
> > Here
> > > in the northeast, they call it "tropical."
> > >
> > Tropical is not regional Mexican at all. Tropical is
> simply
> > a hispanic format.
> > No hispanic radio station caters to Mexicans in NYC. Most
> > hispanics in this market are from PR, SD and South America
>
> > thus the reason there is no Mexican formatted station.
>
> Actually, both WCAA and WPAT-FM do cater to Mexicans, and a
> significant part of their listeners are Mexican. Regional
> Mexican appealse to some, not all, Mexicans, just as
> Caribbean tropical only appeals to some folks from the
> Caribbean.
Wasn't 1380 doing Regional Mexican after the demise of WNNY, the Spanish news station? There must have been enough demand that Mega put it on the air.
> > > --You see this format more in the south and southwest.
> > Here
> > > in the northeast, they call it "tropical."
> > >
> > Tropical is not regional Mexican at all. Tropical is
> simply
> > a hispanic format.
> > No hispanic radio station caters to Mexicans in NYC. Most
> > hispanics in this market are from PR, SD and South America
>
> > thus the reason there is no Mexican formatted station.
>
> Actually, both WCAA and WPAT-FM do cater to Mexicans, and a
> significant part of their listeners are Mexican. Regional
> Mexican appealse to some, not all, Mexicans, just as
> Caribbean tropical only appeals to some folks from the
> Caribbean.
Wasn't 1380 doing Regional Mexican after the demise of WNNY, the Spanish news station? There must have been enough demand that Mega put it on the air.
>
> Wasn't 1380 doing Regional Mexican after the demise of WNNY,
> the Spanish news station? There must have been enough demand
> that Mega put it on the air.
>
That only lasted a few months while they tried to sell the station. they had Renan Almendarez Coello, a Central American, on mornings, and Mexican Regional music the rest of the day. The Mexican community seems the one most fitting for the rather limited 1380 signal.
In any case, it appears taht Mega had lost so much on the ill-fated news format that they just wanted to get something on until they sold. It actually got reasonable ratings, too.
> Wasn't 1380 doing Regional Mexican after the demise of WNNY,
> the Spanish news station? There must have been enough demand
> that Mega put it on the air.
>
That only lasted a few months while they tried to sell the station. they had Renan Almendarez Coello, a Central American, on mornings, and Mexican Regional music the rest of the day. The Mexican community seems the one most fitting for the rather limited 1380 signal.
In any case, it appears taht Mega had lost so much on the ill-fated news format that they just wanted to get something on until they sold. It actually got reasonable ratings, too.
> That only lasted a few months while they tried to sell the
> station. they had Renan Almendarez Coello, a Central
> American, on mornings, and Mexican Regional music the rest
> of the day. The Mexican community seems the one most fitting
> for the rather limited 1380 signal.
Was that when "El Cucuy" was flagshipped on HBC's KSCA or on SBS' KLAX? Or was it from New York, between the two contracts?
> station. they had Renan Almendarez Coello, a Central
> American, on mornings, and Mexican Regional music the rest
> of the day. The Mexican community seems the one most fitting
> for the rather limited 1380 signal.
Was that when "El Cucuy" was flagshipped on HBC's KSCA or on SBS' KLAX? Or was it from New York, between the two contracts?
> > That only lasted a few months while they tried to sell the
>
> > station. they had Renan Almendarez Coello, a Central
> > American, on mornings, and Mexican Regional music the rest
>
> > of the day. The Mexican community seems the one most
> fitting
> > for the rather limited 1380 signal.
>
> Was that when "El Cucuy" was flagshipped on HBC's KSCA or on
> SBS' KLAX? Or was it from New York, between the two
> contracts?
It was when he was still with HBC. Fortunately, he no longer is.
>
>
> > station. they had Renan Almendarez Coello, a Central
> > American, on mornings, and Mexican Regional music the rest
>
> > of the day. The Mexican community seems the one most
> fitting
> > for the rather limited 1380 signal.
>
> Was that when "El Cucuy" was flagshipped on HBC's KSCA or on
> SBS' KLAX? Or was it from New York, between the two
> contracts?
It was when he was still with HBC. Fortunately, he no longer is.
>
> 1. Country
> 2. Rock (starting 1/01/06)
> 3. Alternative
> 4. Oldies
> 5. Adult Standards
> 6. Adult Album Alternative
> 7. Regional Mexican
> 8. Classic Hits (not classic rock)
>
Don't forget Gospel, NYC hasn't had a full-time Gospel station WWRL-1600 and there is a hole for it. There are plenty of AM stations in NYC for someone to start that format. I know it probably won't show up in the ratings but I'm sure it would make money carrying ministries on the station.
> 2. Rock (starting 1/01/06)
> 3. Alternative
> 4. Oldies
> 5. Adult Standards
> 6. Adult Album Alternative
> 7. Regional Mexican
> 8. Classic Hits (not classic rock)
>
Don't forget Gospel, NYC hasn't had a full-time Gospel station WWRL-1600 and there is a hole for it. There are plenty of AM stations in NYC for someone to start that format. I know it probably won't show up in the ratings but I'm sure it would make money carrying ministries on the station.
> It was when he was still with HBC. Fortunately, he no longer
> is.
Not to get personal, but did he have a bad attitude that resulted in his departure? I had always thought that it was his successful morning show which brought KSCA from its days as a low-rated AAA to its success as Los Angeles' top-rated Spanish station (with a Regional Mexican format)?
> is.
Not to get personal, but did he have a bad attitude that resulted in his departure? I had always thought that it was his successful morning show which brought KSCA from its days as a low-rated AAA to its success as Los Angeles' top-rated Spanish station (with a Regional Mexican format)?
> > It was when he was still with HBC. Fortunately, he no
> longer
> > is.
>
> Not to get personal, but did he have a bad attitude that
> resulted in his departure? I had always thought that it was
> his successful morning show which brought KSCA from its days
> as a low-rated AAA to its success as Los Angeles' top-rated
> Spanish station (with a Regional Mexican format)?
>
I was his PD at KHJ for 3 years, and I can say that I hav enever worked with anyone as unpleasant, ever.
KSCA with its current show (hosted by a guy who was my overnight jock at KWIZ in the early 90's) beats Renan amply... in some markets by 5 or 6 to one.
> longer
> > is.
>
> Not to get personal, but did he have a bad attitude that
> resulted in his departure? I had always thought that it was
> his successful morning show which brought KSCA from its days
> as a low-rated AAA to its success as Los Angeles' top-rated
> Spanish station (with a Regional Mexican format)?
>
I was his PD at KHJ for 3 years, and I can say that I hav enever worked with anyone as unpleasant, ever.
KSCA with its current show (hosted by a guy who was my overnight jock at KWIZ in the early 90's) beats Renan amply... in some markets by 5 or 6 to one.
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