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New York Radio Ratings: July 2014

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July 2014 survey period covering Thu. 6/19/14-Wed. 7/16/14 - publicly released for subscribing stations age 6+ overall:

New York: http://ratings.****************/cgi-bin/rol.exe/arb001

Next report will be for the August 2014 survey period covering Thu. 7/17/14-Wed. 8/13/14.
Data release date will be Tue. 9/2/14 (delayed one day due to Labor Day).

AllAccess.com July PPM Analysis including top 5 overall, top 5 in 25-54, top 5 in 18-34 and top 5 in 18-49 (New York is listed first):

http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/a...rch-director-inc-presents-exclusive-july-ppm-
 
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I all but stopped listening to PLJ in late April, but I did check in one time around july. It's a totally different format for the Todd Show. Breaks cut in half and less content. I'm not a fan of short form information shows..so I'm surprised they didn't slip down further than 18 on the list. or maybe that's as low as they can go in their category. I also checked their main page for the first time in a while...seems they have a new show on devoted to exclusive reality show news. The other thing that drove me away was how the morning show pretty much devoted all their time to covering that crap. You can only hear so much house wife yelling before you get bored with the indistinguishable noise...ugh.
 
finally, 923 has the music right, it's been 30 years!

mileage may vary, what it would seem...

z100 remains on top, as it is the markets top biller. Elvis means so much to this station, they sounded amazing, recently 923 has brought out an 'enth more.
you could make an argument over the past 2 years that this is the best this station has ever done, how things are now(market/competition) since '83

la mega 979, the leader of Spanish language programming, it just sounds so much more full of life than their primary competition, the processing.

Lite has an expected summer drop, squeeze from fresh and cbs-fm plays a factor a bit

ktu is the one getting hurt from the 923 correction/refocusing, Cubby is awesome but Elvis is z100s protection, (Z's programmed pretty much flawlessly too). The rest who want music in the morning just split 923/1035. they are/were very recently doing 5 currents 130x a week, a bit more adult conservative version of 923, musically and they copied the commercial free weekends. Ktu has a 923 problem, but do the real strong suburban numbers for 923 show something that could mess with z100 in the near future? They will always have the strong morning numbers, 923 is doing the right thing for mornings.

Power 105 winning the hip hop and rnb battle, they have been down but hot was down more and with Angie now on 105...

CBS-fm top 3 in their demo top 10 the one bellow it is impressive! Scott has been the perfect maybe only one to advance into the 80s
On top over all, the jury is in for sure by now, Scott Shannon was a brilliant hire ratings wise right now and in the stations do or die evolution

The big news(not much of a surprise if you have listened to it) is 923 which seems to have beaten ktu 18-34 and is now basically top 10 in every key demo
The music is pretty much right on now, it is just the right amount of new music and the right amount of rhythmic.
A re-boot was in order, for better or worse 923 had an identity which needed to be wiped clean and started over. No shame, taking on Elvis, who people have grown up listening to their entire 2 digit lives, who is just loved in this market and so just ingrained in morning rituals is a near impossible task.
-It moves, the music just keeps going, clean and quick transitions, commercial free weekends copied by ktu, its newer than z and ktu as it obviously should be, and the songs are the right ones, the correct new songs are surrounded by the most familiar, liked, mass appeal, and not offensive rhythmic and pop songs from the last few years. Also some pretty cool gold selections that are by sound and appeal not date, appropriately placed.
-High 3s low 4s over all and some damage to the cc cluster 18-34, mainly obviously ktu.
 
Could 92.3 Amp be hurting Fresh? As both are tied. Usually Fresh is higher, I feel the sound of Fresh could be changed with adding more recurrent hot ac tracks from the 2000 decade not to much 90s tho
 
Well I did hear Calvin Harris Summer and Clean Bandit Rather be on Fresh, they could probably skip those two as they are amp territory but with the power rotations they have to share Magic, Nico and Vinz, then so much overlap on just about every current pop song. You are then left with just the rhythmic only on fresh, and the pop modern ac Ingred Michealson/Kongos ETC for Fresh. I think Fresh gets all Ed Sherran but if Don't gets like top 10 even top 15 pop. good chance Amp will play it.

So a lot of music overlap, but hey its far far less than ktu and z100, ktu plays a lot of gold dance and is much more recurrent focused, z plays more new songs, but it ends up to being just a hand full of different songs each hour.

Pop music is hot right now, gotta play the hits that test and ladies 22 to 40 or so have just about identical music tastes in 2014.

So yeah it is possible amp took some fresh listening, you might be right to move Fresh to being more gold based, they have been for the past year even longer been very very current based. With an effective 923 they could go a little more after lite probably, seems like a good move but on the other hand 1027 has been getting some pretty nice ratings for cbs.

I don't have the female breakdowns, that's where you get the story. Seems to me though that as of now all of our pop music stations are doing decently besides 955. PLJ is in a difficult place right now. I would really think about going adult hits, they could even be more current than a usual one normally is. It also doesn't seem that they Todd show is working. Scott is going for an older audience that is up for grabs really and he is getting them, 20% increase in mornings. Todd is trying to take from Elvis, it's just that there is no weakness on the Elvis show, this market has been listening to that show for decades now, they are like family, it is just like brushing your teeth in the morning to have on 1003, I don't know that there exists an morning show talent in the country right now who could come into NYC and nibble away at Elvis' audience, it is just too strong.
 
OK I'll talk about country. After months of stagnation at 1.9, the station moves up 2/10ths of a point to a 2.2. Seems to me the 2.2 equals the all time high for WYNY 103.5. New PD is in place. Maybe starting to build a radio station out of work parts.

And wow! Talk is holding steady! But what's happening at WQXR? Lost a third of their audience in the last few months. That's not good. And I'd think the folks at Emmis have to be just a bit disappointed about WEPN.
 
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I don't have the female breakdowns, that's where you get the story. Seems to me though that as of now all of our pop music stations are doing decently besides 955. PLJ is in a difficult place right now. I would really think about going adult hits, they could even be more current than a usual one normally is. It also doesn't seem that they Todd show is working. Scott is going for an older audience that is up for grabs really and he is getting them, 20% increase in mornings. Todd is trying to take from Elvis, it's just that there is no weakness on the Elvis show, this market has been listening to that show for decades now, they are like family, it is just like brushing your teeth in the morning to have on 1003, I don't know that there exists an morning show talent in the country right now who could come into NYC and nibble away at Elvis' audience, it is just too strong.
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Z100 was THE station in 90s highschool years. I just never really listened to it. about my only exposure was their terribly fake sounding phone taps.
 
My problem with Nsh it seems too wussified country, which maybe fine for day-parting, but at least at night how about some kick azz country, some loud guitars, more danceable bar music. I am a mobile dj so i love to see people dance zydeco is next..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HOBIfLKqtE
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OK I'll talk about country. After months of stagnation at 1.9, the station moves up 2/10ths of a point to a 2.2. Seems to me the 2.2 equals the all time high for WYNY 103.5. New PD is in place. Maybe starting to build a radio station out of work parts.
 
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I believe you are correct. A 2.2 for country is the most WYNY ever saw so that means that notwithstanding the 16 year absence of country, 2.2 is the highest any country station has ranked in New York for over 20 years. I will say that country stations tend to do better in summer than winter and classical tends to do better in winter than summer.
As for Emmis and WEPN, ESPN leased the signal so Emmis could care less about it's ratings.
 
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My problem with Nsh it seems too wussified country, which maybe fine for day-parting, but at least at night how about some kick azz country, some loud guitars, more danceable bar music. I am a mobile dj so i love to see people dance zydeco is next..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HOBIfLKqtE
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OK I'll talk about country. After months of stagnation at 1.9, the station moves up 2/10ths of a point to a 2.2. Seems to me the 2.2 equals the all time high for WYNY 103.5. New PD is in place. Maybe starting to build a radio station out of work parts.
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NASH plays the top 20 billboard hits....seems to be working ok so why change ?
 
As we all know the only reason we have a country station is the Nash branding and having it in the biggest market for Cumulus.

Over all, I see the stations that rebranded to Nash that were country already have had a drop in the ratings, not catastrophic but shares have been lost.

Here in NYC, those who like country are going to listen to it, to squeeze out all they can get out of it they need to play the current country hits and they are. If they could get top 10 in any of the key demos would be an amazing feat, as I see it this is about as good as it can get, there are no more shares to find really, NYC is not a country town like just about every other market.

Now the wild care here, xtu in Philly is #1 18-34, #2 25-54. I never ever thought country could get that in Philly, it goes to show that country is riding a hot streak where young people are finding it to be a very nice switch up from the top 40. No Philly is by no means NYC but it is a big northeast town so if I were Nash I'd love what I'm seeing down the road, thinking that the country ceiling for NYC might just be extended a bit due to the format being on fire.
 
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Philly is by no means NYC but it is a big northeast town so if I were Nash I'd love what I'm seeing down the road, thinking that the country ceiling for NYC might just be extended a bit due to the format being on fire.
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Country is #1 in almost every other northeast city, including Boston, Hartford, Albany, Syracuse, Buffalo, Boston, and Providence.
 
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Country is #1 in almost every other northeast city, including Boston, Hartford, Albany, Syracuse, Buffalo, Boston, and Providence.
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I think you forget there is almost no where to live in the NYC area cheaply and that's the country audience. get 50 miles out and it gets bigger Dj's get almost no calls for a country music party( or christian music either)...unless the clients are not from here. But go to danbury waterbury norther jersey and there are DJ companies which specialize in country . and 92.5 out of waterbury which covers most of the state has been big for years maybe decades.
 
Big A the rodeo bar just closed......http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...-end-of-july-after-nearly-30-years-owner-says

Rodeo Bar Will Close by End of July After Nearly 30 Years, Owner Says
By Heather Holland on July 10, 2014 12:54pm | Updated on July 11, 2014 4:31pm

KIPS BAY — Texas-themed Rodeo Bar and Grill is closing its doors for good at the end of the month, after nearly 30 years, the owner confirmed.

The honky-tonk restaurant at 375 Third Ave. — which opened in 1985 and offered Texas-style barbecue, live music and karaoke nights — is closing shop on July 27 due to financial struggles, said owner Mitch Pollak.

"Here at New York's longest-running honky-tonk, we stayed open during some of the city’s toughest times — Hurricane Sandy, the 2003 blackout, 9/11 — but recent rent increases, combined with a changing landscape, have made it impossible for us continue," the bar posted on its Facebook page on Thursday afternoon.

"For the past three decades, Rodeo Bar has been home to thousands of bands, and we’re proud to have helped define the country, Americana and rockabilly scene in New York City for all these years. But more than that, we were supported by an incredible community of people from New York and all over the world who helped make this bar great. We can’t thank y’all enough."

Customers mourned the loss of the neighborhood staple on Facebook. “I loved the Rodeo bar & Grill,” posted Tom Gould, bassist with Bossa Nova Beatnicks. “I ate there often, sang there many times and generally had way too much fun there. So sorry to hear that it’s closing.”

Others were shocked by the news. “Can’t believe it,” Lori Anna Pizzo posted on the bar’s Facebook page. “Seems all the venues, restaurants I’ve grown up with are all closing down because of rents they can’t afford. Sad."

The bar’s landlord did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
 
Didnt the guy that runs the other board insist another NY radio station wouldnt go country after Y107 ended years ago.

Wonder what his excuse is now.
 
I heard scott mention radio ratings today, and he also mentioned Morning Show ratings. Do they rate the different shows as well as the stations? I'm curious where the Todd show now ranks. Scott usually sends an occasional compliment or happy birthday to his old team mates, but today there was a #21 sniped in there :).
 
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