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I learned a couple years ago that the "official" word for a reporter closing out their report by saying, "John Doe, XYZ News" is called a lockout. Now I'm told that's an outdated term, much like 'actuality.'

Could someone settle this for me?<P ID="signature">______________
Joe Salzone
Host, "World View with Joe Salzone" on WGBB 1240 every Sunday night at 7 ET.</P>
 
> I learned a couple years ago that the "official" word for a
> reporter closing out their report by saying, "John Doe, XYZ
> News" is called a lockout. Now I'm told that's an outdated
> term, much like 'actuality.'

I haven't heard any indication that the term has gone out of style.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
> > I learned a couple years ago that the "official" word for
> a
> > reporter closing out their report by saying, "John Doe,
> XYZ
> > News" is called a lockout. Now I'm told that's an outdated
>
> > term, much like 'actuality.'
>
> I haven't heard any indication that the term has gone out of
> style.
>
> -OA

I haven't heard that "actuality" was an outdated term, either. They were still teaching it in a broadcasting class I attended in 2003.
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> > I learned a couple years ago that the "official" word for
> a
> > reporter closing out their report by saying, "John Doe,
> XYZ
> > News" is called a lockout. Now I'm told that's an outdated
>
> > term, much like 'actuality.'
>
> I haven't heard any indication that the term has gone out of
> style.
>
> -OA
>

Thanks. Must be a matter of individual or station preference.<P ID="signature">______________
Joe Salzone
News anchor, WNYG Radio</P>
 
> I learned a couple years ago that the "official" word for a
> reporter closing out their report by saying, "John Doe, XYZ
> News" is called a lockout. Now I'm told that's an outdated
> term, much like 'actuality.'
>
> Could someone settle this for me?
>


Who cares if it's "outdated" as long as we undestand what it means?

We still call individual spots on computer a CART, even though we haven't had one on tape for almost ten years.
 
> > I learned a couple years ago that the "official" word for
> a
> > reporter closing out their report by saying, "John Doe,
> XYZ
> > News" is called a lockout. Now I'm told that's an outdated
>
> > term, much like 'actuality.'
> >
> > Could someone settle this for me?
> >
>
>
> Who cares if it's "outdated" as long as we undestand what it
> means?
>
> We still call individual spots on computer a CART, even
> though we haven't had one on tape for almost ten years.
>

I recently moved to a new station that uses carts. It's actually a nice change. They're much easier to maintain. Even though I'm young, I consider myself old-fashioned.. especially when it comes to broadcasting.<P ID="signature">______________
Joe Salzone
News anchor, WNYG Radio</P>
 
> > > I learned a couple years ago that the "official" word
> for
> > a
> > > reporter closing out their report by saying, "John Doe,
> > XYZ
> > > News" is called a lockout. Now I'm told that's an
> outdated
> >
> > > term, much like 'actuality.'
> > >
> > > Could someone settle this for me?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Who cares if it's "outdated" as long as we undestand what
> it
> > means?
> >
> > We still call individual spots on computer a CART, even
> > though we haven't had one on tape for almost ten years.
> >
>
> I recently moved to a new station that uses carts. It's
> actually a nice change. They're much easier to maintain.
> Even though I'm young, I consider myself old-fashioned..
> especially when it comes to broadcasting.

Carts still rule! I love 'em!
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i never used the term "lockout" until OA got me started on it. i have always called it a standard outcue or standard out.


> > I learned a couple years ago that the "official" word for
> a
> > reporter closing out their report by saying, "John Doe,
> XYZ
> > News" is called a lockout. Now I'm told that's an outdated
>
> > term, much like 'actuality.'
>
> I haven't heard any indication that the term has gone out of
> style.
>
> -OA
>
 
> > > > I learned a couple years ago that the "official" word
> > for
> > > a
> > > > reporter closing out their report by saying, "John
> Doe,
> > > XYZ
> > > > News" is called a lockout. Now I'm told that's an
> > outdated
> > >
> > > > term, much like 'actuality.'
> > > >
> > > > Could someone settle this for me?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Who cares if it's "outdated" as long as we undestand
> what
> > it
> > > means?
> > >
> > > We still call individual spots on computer a CART, even
> > > though we haven't had one on tape for almost ten years.
> > >
> >
> > I recently moved to a new station that uses carts. It's
> > actually a nice change. They're much easier to maintain.
> > Even though I'm young, I consider myself old-fashioned..
> > especially when it comes to broadcasting.
>
> Carts still rule! I love 'em!
>

They still use them at CBS Radio News!<P ID="signature">______________
Joe Salzone
News anchor, WNYG Radio</P>
 
> i never used the term "lockout" until OA got me started on
> it. i have always called it a standard outcue or standard
> out.

Ah, yes. :D I'd totally spaced on that usage there.

Well, in my defense...I'm pretty sure that it's SOP at a large number of news/talk stations in many large markets. When I worked in a certain top-30 market, the term was also used by many stations which took stringer reports from us.

It's only right that the term got seeded there with you... considering how good your operation is and all...

-OA <P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
>
> I haven't heard that "actuality" was an outdated term,
> either. They were still teaching it in a broadcasting class
> I attended in 2003.
>
I don't know if "actuality" is outdated but I don't use the term anymore or hear it used by other radio newsguys in our newsroom. I use "soundbite" sometimes if I'm doing an onair bit where I refer to a piece of sound.

I remember in the early 70's, I would sometimes hear taped interviews referred to as "beepers" because of the requirement then that about having a beep so people would know their phone calls were being recorded. So if somebody uses the term beepers, I'll gaurantee you THAT one is outdated.
 
> I recently moved to a new station that uses carts. It's
> actually a nice change. They're much easier to maintain.
> Even though I'm young, I consider myself old-fashioned..
> especially when it comes to broadcasting.

Where do you work, KDWN?
 
> > I recently moved to a new station that uses carts. It's
> > actually a nice change. They're much easier to maintain.
> > Even though I'm young, I consider myself old-fashioned..
> > especially when it comes to broadcasting.
>
> Where do you work, KDWN?
>

Close. I'm one of those nasty east coast radio people.<P ID="signature">______________
Joe Salzone
News anchor, WNYG Radio</P>
 
Speaking of carts...

We don't use them anymore, but we still have machines hooked up in a couple of studios. They'd be perfect for Legal IDs during sports broadcasts at our stations...some of the poor kids running the boards just can't get the hang of the automation system, and I cringe when I think of them doing an ID live. I said all that to say this: until I can round up some better board ops, anybody have any idea where I might order some new carts from? I haven't seen them in catalogs in ages...


Also, we still use "actualities". Of course, my ND is about 432 years old and went to broadcasting school with Marconi. Maybe that means WE are outdated.
 
> I don't know if "actuality" is outdated but I don't use the
> term anymore or hear it used by other radio newsguys in our
> newsroom. I use "soundbite" sometimes if I'm doing an onair
> bit where I refer to a piece of sound.
>
> I remember in the early 70's, I would sometimes hear taped
> interviews referred to as "beepers" because of the
> requirement then that about having a beep so people would
> know their phone calls were being recorded. So if somebody
> uses the term beepers, I'll gaurantee you THAT one is
> outdated.
>

Beepers! Haven't heard that term in 10 forevers! But then again, how many people remember having your actualities on 3-inch reels??? (My first job was at a station with a board that was pre-WW2 w/giant cart machines and some R-to-Rs for actualities, but I'm not THAT old -- just the equipment was!)

I've worked in several parts of the country, and usually lockout or SOC (standard out cue) is what I've heard used. Actuality still seems to be the main word, but some folks say sound bite or cuts. One top 10 market where I worked always used the term cuts, because we would file a wrap (voice plus sound), a voicer (just reporter's voice) and 3 cuts (just newsmaker's voice). So, are the terms "wrap" and "voicer" still the norm?
 
> > I don't know if "actuality" is outdated but I don't use
> the
> > term anymore or hear it used by other radio newsguys in
> our
> > newsroom. I use "soundbite" sometimes if I'm doing an
> onair
> > bit where I refer to a piece of sound.
> >
> > I remember in the early 70's, I would sometimes hear taped
>
> > interviews referred to as "beepers" because of the
> > requirement then that about having a beep so people would
> > know their phone calls were being recorded. So if
> somebody
> > uses the term beepers, I'll gaurantee you THAT one is
> > outdated.
> >
>
> Beepers! Haven't heard that term in 10 forevers! But then
> again, how many people remember having your actualities on
> 3-inch reels??? (My first job was at a station with a board
> that was pre-WW2 w/giant cart machines and some R-to-Rs for
> actualities, but I'm not THAT old -- just the equipment
> was!)
>
> I've worked in several parts of the country, and usually
> lockout or SOC (standard out cue) is what I've heard used.
> Actuality still seems to be the main word, but some folks
> say sound bite or cuts. One top 10 market where I worked
> always used the term cuts, because we would file a wrap
> (voice plus sound), a voicer (just reporter's voice) and 3
> cuts (just newsmaker's voice). So, are the terms "wrap" and
> "voicer" still the norm?

As far as I know. Again, they were still teaching them back in 2003.<P ID="signature">______________
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http://theradioblog.blogspot.com</P>
 
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