Historically, sure. But it's not like any of the old rules still apply now.
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"Newsroom culture clash" at CBS News
- Thread starter Mark Roberts
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Historically, sure. But it's not like any of the old rules still apply now.
True too its just in this case whenever we have mentioned about GM Changes at Paramount owned CBS affiliates as in this case its too easy to assume Bari Weiss and David Ellison had a role in that one. Especially in the link I provided had to disclose who us making the decisions on the local affiliates at Paramount. They had to disclose that Jennifer Mitchell is the one that hires or fires the GM at the local CBS owned stations.
And they are vs. CNN, MS-Whateveritnowis, ABC, CBS and NBC. I can see the argument for balance.
While this is a mostly radio forum, I find it interesting to look at the Big Three network affiliations 25 years ago vs. today. With so many channels and so many ways to receive them, a network could (I am making a supposition here) influence its affiliates; "you follow our position in your local news or we find a new affiliate".
As you say, Scott, the rules don't apply. Part is just partisan politics, but much is the huge variety of options for the networks to distribute their content.
And then CBS's declared position is one of looking much harder at "new" media and not thinking about the 6PM evening newscast.
Breaking my rule for one moment to point up the obvious bullshit.
Even if you believed that all of these are left-wing media (they're not, but I'll give you MS NOW):
CNN
MS NOW
ABC
CBS
NBC
There are multiple "Donald Trump can do no wrong networks", to use @gr8oldies ' term.
FOX News
Newsmax
One America News Network (OANN)
America's Voice
Right Side Broadcasting Network (RSBN)
If none of the last four have the scale of FOX News, that's their problem. And throw in the Sinclair and Nexstar locals while we're at it.
Back to virtually ignoring the bad-faith arguments and gaslighting.
Even if you believed that all of these are left-wing media (they're not, but I'll give you MS NOW):
CNN
MS NOW
ABC
CBS
NBC
There are multiple "Donald Trump can do no wrong networks", to use @gr8oldies ' term.
FOX News
Newsmax
One America News Network (OANN)
America's Voice
Right Side Broadcasting Network (RSBN)
If none of the last four have the scale of FOX News, that's their problem. And throw in the Sinclair and Nexstar locals while we're at it.
Back to virtually ignoring the bad-faith arguments and gaslighting.
The constitution doesn't require balance. And we don't have a fairness doctrine.
I think CBS or someone should have tried their current approach a decade or so ago or during Trump's first term when most of the media set out to be "the resistance." Right now, about every outlet has scaled back making CBS's approach seem less original than if they did it in like 2017. Plus, today they pretty much have to use a megaphone to get their stance out, while back then their subdued response would have been easier to spot had they tried then.
I was going to point that out as well. Plus, Newsmax 2 that is carried on a lot of LP stations around the country. Even though that is not mentioned on the Newsmax website though.
Sounds like to me the FCC wants to bring it back though with trying to make talk shows give equal time to aposing views. It should be up to the show how they want their show to run, not the government in my oppinion.
If you were to ask the public, that's what they would say. They tend to be in favor of less government. That's not what this is.
They all use "slants" and editing that is decisively left of center. The favorite in my opinion is the injection of irrelvant negative items into a story such as "President Trump announced funding for a new generation of battleships. Trump, who was accused of Russian collusion, signed today a.... "
Of the five, only one is available OTA or on Cable in my market, Fox News. The last two I have never even heard of.
The other five are all availble.
No, it is the fact that none of the the other than Fox that I have heard of are any better than the local news in Traverse City, MI, and perhaps worse.
Back at you. Kimmel still lied.
It doesn't matter. There is no requirement for comedians to tell the truth.
OTOH There are requirements for our government to tell the truth, and they lie every day.
Some news organizations use those lies as the basis for what they report, and are never investigated by the FCC for "news distortion."
It's called "selective enforcement," and its supposed to be illegal,
CNN has Scott Bessent screaming MAGA talking points, CBS is now the Trump network, ABC settled a defamation lawsuit so it's been defanged, NBC isn't much better. MAGA owns all the networks, most of the locals, the major print media and with Tik-tok, almost all of social media. The "all the media is leftist" is a talking point you no longer have.
Where he is amply nulled by multiple progressive opinions. Sort of like throwing a conservative into the Roman Arena with the tigers and lions of The View.
Hardly. It is closer to centrist, but not conservative in any aspect.
Oh, the let former Democrat operative Stepanopolous go?
NYT? WaPo? LA Times? Chicago Trib? Vanity Fair? The New Yorker? Nearly no newspaper except, maybe, the WSJ, is even centrist.
TikTok is user created.
Predominantly populated by progressive viewpoints. Again, social media is, by the definition of the word "social" user sourced.
We have a few online conservative sources, like Fox and Breitbart. But the vast majority of those with any significant number of views is in the HuffPost and friends category.
Could we please keep this thread focused on CBS News? It's clear that there's going to be more to talk about as Bari Weiss, et al., put their stamp on the organization. Some of it may have a political cast, which will make sense in context. Some of it may be downright weird. Some of it will be a case study in inept management. It's going to be an interesting study of the evolution...or de-evolution...of journalism. But rehashing the same old tired arguments about the relative merits or deficiencies of other news outlets don't make sense in the context of this thread, and all that will happen is that the thread will be shut down by a moderator. That will then make it harder to establish context the next time there's an issue with CBS News, and Lord knows CBS News has had more issues than a newsstand in Paris.
So please be considerate here. Thank you.
So please be considerate here. Thank you.
I think most outlets fall under "conservative Democrat" at least economically. When it came to Bernie Sanders campaign, especially back in 2016, those outlets were not kind.
The Bezos WAPO? That donated money to Trump and killed the planned endorsement of VPHarris? Also bankrolled the Melania documentary?
You recall CBS killed the 60 Minutes story on CECOT? TikTok has been removing anti-Trump and anti-ICE content. Anti-Trump people aren't any happier with the MSM than Trumpers are, that's why we seek out independent media.
10/10. No notes.
Agreed. But is is extra challenging to do this when one of the moderators is contributing to this “rehashing”
I would add the Salem News Channel to the list of ''Donald Trump Can Do No Wrong' list of news channels.