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Believe what you want, David. Gey gezunda heit. (Google it.)
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"Newsroom culture clash" at CBS News
- Thread starter Mark Roberts
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Believe what you want, David. Gey gezunda heit. (Google it.)
Just as, sometimes, news reporters see what they want to see and disregard the rest.
I've said this over and over. I'll do it again as it is relevant.
When I owned and ran a group of stations in Ecuador, one of them was News/Talk/Novelas. We covered local events with our own staff. Whenever there was an event in Ecuador that got world attention, such as a coup or attempted take-over of the government, the correspondents of France Press, UPI, AP, Reuters, Prensa Latina, TASS, Time, Newsweek and others all covered it.
A number of us who lived in Ecuador, including a local newspaper editor, the Newsweek correspondent, the stringers for AP, UPI and Rueters and myself along with several other camp followers would get together for cebiche and beer and look at the reports printed in different papers and magazines that we could get (mostly from the nation of origin's embassy) and compare them.
We had seen the actual event. But the reports in well known and established news vehicles often made us wonder if the reporter and their editor were in some kind of parallel universe. Airplanes dropping bombs on the capital when none were seen by anyone... declarations by politicians that were not ever made or which were taken out of context... insinuations that the a) Gringos, b) Russians and c) Cubans had financed or encouraged the event... and other cases of "seeing shadows".
This happened every time there was an international event. And every time the versions of the same story changed depending on the reporter and the organization or journal they reported for.
All true as mentioned why the current president of CBS News Tom Cibrowski is silent and only exists as Division President in name only as seen in the David Ellison era of Paramount.
Also proven here is that Bari Weiss has been known for drama since she left the Op-ed division of New York Times. Here's a clip of the time Bari Weiss left New York Times and the Drama she had there before going to "The Free Press" and CBS News.
Yes, but here she is just following the marching orders of the higher ups. Its not like shes Chuck Laurie or something (his multiple sitcoms) where its HIS show...she seems to just be doing what they want from her, and they hand picked her to follow.
Is this supposed to be intentionally ironic? Because you just did it. You know damn well people have facts and cogent arguments when referring to the current fascist regime. You just try throwing around some tripe about your past as if that negates everyone else’s knowledge and experience because it doesn’t match your supportive of said fascists.
Yet again, see above.
No one said that there was a law. He was and is being justly criticized for that decision. So let’s add straw man to gaslighting.
Yeah, you know nothing of gaslighting except doing it in near every post.
We know
TL/DR: “Only my version of history is accurate and all others are wrong.”
What does the Washington Post have in common with CBS News?
You might say they're both owned by people who are bowing to the president. That may be true.
But they're also both traditional media companies who are in decline and whose audiences left before the second administration began.
The Washington Post was losing money before the president took office. The publisher told the staff that had to change in June 2024.
This isn't an owner problem, although it makes a convenient excuse. It's a user problem. The sooner people accept that, the sooner we can begin to create a system that rewards good journalism. Because right now, Fox News is winning. Conservative talk radio is winning. Those are the facts. They have nothing to do with the president. It has everything to do with how people use media, and how the media companies are handing that change.
You might say they're both owned by people who are bowing to the president. That may be true.
But they're also both traditional media companies who are in decline and whose audiences left before the second administration began.
The Washington Post was losing money before the president took office. The publisher told the staff that had to change in June 2024.
This isn't an owner problem, although it makes a convenient excuse. It's a user problem. The sooner people accept that, the sooner we can begin to create a system that rewards good journalism. Because right now, Fox News is winning. Conservative talk radio is winning. Those are the facts. They have nothing to do with the president. It has everything to do with how people use media, and how the media companies are handing that change.
ABC News with David Muir gets better ratings than Fox News.
Maybe in the ratings, but not in the voting results in every election since November 2024... including when conservative talk radio hosts were literally on the ballot.
Keep in mind that TV and radio are not in the voting business. They're in the ratings business.
And so, behold:
CBS News' Tony Dokoupil's Latest Ratings Compared With NBC & ABC
How's he doing after first few weeks in new role?
(hit return too soon)
Excerpt:
According to AdWeek, citing national live+same-day big data plus program ratings from Nielsen, CBS Evening News drew 4.538 million total viewers and 623,000 viewers in the key Adults 25-54 demo for the week of January 26. This was down by 7 percent in total viewers and down 8 percent in the demo compared to the week prior.
CBS Evening News was also down year over year, with a 6 percent drop in total viewers and a 9 percent drop in the demo compared to the same week last year. It should be noted that the same week last year was John Dickerson and Maurice DuBois‘ debut as anchors following Norah O’Donnell‘s exit the week before.
Meantime, the report says that ABC and NBC are picking up viewers.
Whether ratings are the criteria for success of the current leadership of CBS News remains to be seen.
As I said earlier in this thread, I have no reason to believe the Ellison's are in love with Bari Weiss. This time next year, there could be a new regime.
And, again, for every news report there is an element within of the way the reporter saw the event. My point is that the same event, seen by representatives of a variety of news media reporters, was described, to lesser or greater extent, differently.
We have an example on this forum of those who interpreted the suspension-generating Kimmel commentary as a lie based on known facts and those who saw it as humor based on his personal perspective.
Or the subject of the WaPo non-endorsement of the last presidential election where there is discussion of the opinions of the employees (the journalists and editorialists) versus the wish of the owner and editor. Some see the ownership as thwarting the informed decision of the staff while imposing that of the owner, while others think that the owner has the right to decide what their property does.
Or a broader example: many in the U.S.A. see the apprehension of illegal immigrants who have committed no crime once they have arrived here as wrong. Others see that those people have no right to be here at all, and committed the crime of illegal entry.
And plenty of people were happy with Mussolini because he made the trains run on time.
This morning Daily Kos printed a very dark take on what is happening at CBS News now and what has happened at The Washington Post.
www.dailykos.com
The Ellisons may not love Bari Weiss (as noted by @TheBigA) but if she destroys the CBS newsroom so it can no longer hold the current U.S. president accountable for his actions, then her job will be done and she will become history at the network.
Washington Post chief’s firing should terrify new regime at CBS News
Will Lewis is out at The Washington Post. Since he was a fancy “chief executive,” his departure is being reported with the genteel framing of him “stepping down…
www.dailykos.com
The Ellisons may not love Bari Weiss (as noted by @TheBigA) but if she destroys the CBS newsroom so it can no longer hold the current U.S. president accountable for his actions, then her job will be done and she will become history at the network.
That has to be the best non sequitur so far this year.
Once again, CBS News is in 3rd place, and that's just among broadcast networks. It's even lower if you count everything else.
Change is happening everywhere. People don't read newspapers or watch evening news programs. That is what has destroyed CBS News and the Post.
Once more, we see when you bring something up, it’s perfectly germane. Someone else illustrates a point, and suddenly it’s not.
Yeah, we aren’t falling for that cr….ud.
Oh and objective facts, the person who shot the podcaster was by every shred of evidence a conservative. So not only does it not matter since it’s a comedy show (much like…. SNL’s Weekend Update), it was also not a lie.
First off, I take anything in Daily Kos with several grains of salt. It has a point of view that's designed to get its readers agitated. That, of course, is hardly different from much of the extreme-right-wing media; in either case, there's a tendency to leap to conclusions without much to back up those conclusions other than speculation and hypotheses.
Beyond that, there are differences in the two situations. Lewis was a hire with no equity in the outcome. Weiss was what, in Silicon Valley, is called an acqui-hire. Reportedly, David Ellison paid $150 million which, ostensibly, was for the newsletter but was really for her. In other words, Lewis came on board a lot more cheaply than Weiss. Those at the top rarely admit mistakes or accept accountability. Instead, they find a fall guy. Lewis had quite a few flaws that made him ripe for selection into that not-so-elite category, including an utter failure to understand an American journalistic environment. He seemed to alienate everyone. From many reports, Weiss is a more charismatic person. She's making mistakes, too, but they've been largely of a mechanical nature, specific to television. In some aspects, she does seem to have some understanding of how journalists work, which makes her more effective in whatever ideological project she's perceived as pushing. Ellison paid $150 million (reportedly) for that. He's substantially invested in her. I think she will have to screw up badly before Ellison will let her go. It will be much harder to make her the fall guy and, unless it's really obvious, Ellison's desire to prove himself a success will take a hit. Bezos was truly self-made; David Ellison is spending Larry's money. We also don't know on what criteria Ellison is evaluating Weiss. A lot of the reporting has been about ratings. But ratings may not be the point. Being something that is Fox News-like in content with a more mainstream style while building up digital properties may be the point.
If CBS' nightly news program was Mrs. Weiss' only target, I would agree with you. However, her first target was "60 Minutes,", a program that was highly successful before her arrival. There is no reason other than to lessen the accountability of the current U.S. political leader to have taken an axe to that show and its reporting staff.