"Newsroom culture clash" at CBS News

[TheBigA]

If CBS' nightly news program was Mrs. Weiss' only target, I would agree with you. However, her first target was "60 Minutes,", a program that was highly successful before her arrival.

She hasn't done anything staff wivesreally to 60 Minutes. The piece she stopped aired a few weeks later with minor changes. There have been no other issues.

Nobody has quit. Nobody fired. They're still hitting the administration on immigration and other things.

She doesn't want to be responsible for killing the golden goose.

 

[davideduardo]

If CBS' nightly news program was Mrs. Weiss' only target, I would agree with you. However, her first target was "60 Minutes,", a program that was highly successful before her arrival. There is no reason other than to lessen the accountability of the current U.S. political leader to have taken an axe to that show and its reporting staff.

60 Minutes did not have an “axe“ applied to it. It continues on the air and its staff continues relatively unchanged. To make the news department profitable takes more than one weekly television show. It is obvious that CBS feels that if it follows the same thought process and ideology of the other two major networks it has less of a chance to succeed then if it takes a separate path.

 

[davideduardo]

Once more, we see when you bring something up, it’s perfectly germane. Someone else illustrates a point, and suddenly it’s not.

That was not a rebuttal. It was simply a snide remark.

Yeah, we aren’t falling for that cr….ud.

And that is your political perspective. It is not mine. Mine is shared by as many people as yours is and in the past presidential election by more than yours.

Oh and objective facts, the person who shot the podcaster was by every shred of evidence a conservative. So not only does it not matter since it’s a comedy show (much like…. SNL’s Weekend Update), it was also not a lie.

There was, before the program aired, that the shooter had separated themselves from his/theri family was highly polarized in the opposite direction.

 

[davideduardo]

Once again, CBS News is in 3rd place, and that's just among broadcast networks. It's even lower if you count everything else.

Change is happening everywhere. People don't read newspapers or watch evening news programs. That is what has destroyed CBS News and the Post.

Do we do not know if the shift in focus will improve CBS’s position, but they certainly lagged the other two networks and had to do something.

 

[TheBigA]

There was, before the program aired, that the shooter had separated themselves from his/theri family was highly polarized in the opposite direction.

One thing conservatives have trouble dealing with is the fact that there are gay or LGBTQ republicans. Including Bari Weiss.

Log Cabin Republicans - Building A More Inclusive GOP

For more than 48 years, Log Cabin Republicans is the nation’s largest Republican organization dedicated to representing LGBT conservatives and allies.

logcabin.org

The second amendment applies to all people, regardless of party or sexual orientation.

 

[davideduardo]

One thing conservatives have trouble dealing with is the fact that there are gay or LGBTQ republicans. Including Bari Weiss.

As a conservative, I have never, myself, witnessed rejection of LGBTQ+ persons. While there is definitely rejection of extremes like men in women’s sports, otherwise the conservatives I know accept kindly those groups and have friend who are gay.

There is a huge stereotype that all non-Democrats are anti-gay, that has never been my experience.

Of course, this in n=1.

 

[TheBigA]

There is a huge stereotype that all non-Democrats are anti-gay, that has never been my experience..

There's also the huge stereotype that all gays are radical democrats. This is how the NY Post reported the story:

Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin ‘deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,’ Utah gov. says

Tyler Robinson was “deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” a preliminary investigation revealed according to Utah Gov. Spencer Cox.

nypost.com

They haven't mentioned it again. He hasn't been charged with terrorism. The fact is he's a confused kid. That's it.

 

[TheBigA]

Do we do not know if the shift in focus will improve CBS’s position, but they certainly lagged the other two networks and had to do something.

There aren't a lot of examples that they have in fact "shifted focus." In fact, a quick scan of the CBS News website reveals many stories critical of the administration. It is very different from FoxNews.com, which at times is more extreme than Breitbart.

My point is it doesn't matter, because traditional broadcast news is not the future.

 

[tall_guy1]

As a conservative, I have never, myself, witnessed rejection of LGBTQ+ persons. While there is definitely rejection of extremes like men in women’s sports, otherwise the conservatives I know accept kindly those groups and have friend who are gay.

There is a huge stereotype that all non-Democrats are anti-gay, that has never been my experience.

Of course, this in n=1.

The "T" part is still something society is grappling with. Rogan for instance said he didn't want someone with an "f***in' beard" walking into the women's restroom, which is kind of a bigoted representation of trans people.

 

[davideduardo]

My point is it doesn't matter, because traditional broadcast news is not the future.

But for the moment, broadcast news is the traditional profit center, and sustains the development of newer derivatives.

 

[TheBigA]

But for the moment, broadcast news is the traditional profit center, and sustains the development of newer derivatives.

Generally speaking, a lot of the commentary in this thread is about media influence on public opinion. My point is that if the audience isn't watching, then it's not going to have much influence. As the audience declines for CBS News, whatever shift in focus happens will matter less and less.

 

[Y2kTheNewOldies]

Exclusive | ‘CBS Evening News’ staffers are ‘jumping ship’ with buyout offer ahead of Bari Weiss’ layoffs: sources

“It’s a lot of people.”

nypost.com

Here is more on how Bari Weiss is running CBS Evening News. Now there are talks about layoffs at the network.

About a quarter of “CBS Evening News” staffers eligible for buyouts have chosen the option ahead of impending layoffs under editor in chief Bari Weiss, The Post has learned.

Eleven staffers opted for buyouts, which were only offered to non-unionized employees, a source with knowledge of the matter said Tuesday.

They include at least six producers out of the show’s total of roughly 20, according to another source, who added: “Seems like people are jumping ship.”

“It’s a lot of people,” a CBS insider said.

 

[TheBigA]

It's pretty normal that when you change the anchor, he likely wants his own support team. He's never worked with these people. He worked on the morning show. So we may see some morning people replace the departing producers on the evening news. Then there will be other departures on the morning show, and they'll start fresh there.

 

[kevtronics]

As a conservative, I have never, myself, witnessed rejection of LGBTQ+ persons.

Then take off your blinders, because your fellow conservatives are launching a campaign to repeal marriage equality:

47 anti-LGBTQ+ organizations launch new campaign to end marriage equality - LGBTQ Nation

Their strategy will focus on arguing that same-sex couples put their "romantic desires" above the needs of their children.

www.lgbtqnation.com

While there is definitely rejection of extremes like men in women’s sports, otherwise the conservatives I know accept kindly those groups and have friend who are gay.

If you think of trans women as "men", then you are not so kindly accepting of them as you think.

And "some of my best friends are (insert name of marginalized group)" is the oldest excuse in the book.

 

[kevtronics]

The "T" part is still something society is grappling with. Rogan for instance said he didn't want someone with an "f***in' beard" walking into the women's restroom, which is kind of a bigoted representation of trans people.

This MAGA gender hysteria has ironically led to exactly that -- cisgender men barging into women's restrooms because they thought they saw someone who didn't look feminine enough using it.

Woman says security guard at Liberty Hotel in Boston confronted her in bathroom, asked to prove gender

A couple said a security guard at the Liberty Hotel in Boston challenged their use of a bathroom and kicked them out.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[ted chittenden]

As a conservative, I have never, myself, witnessed rejection of LGBTQ+ persons. While there is definitely rejection of extremes like men in women’s sports, otherwise the conservatives I know accept kindly those groups and have friend who are gay.

There is a huge stereotype that all non-Democrats are anti-gay, that has never been my experience.

Of course, this in n=1.

Most of the objections to the LGBT community come from the religious right which use the writings of Paul (I believe it's in Romans) and the Old Testament books of Levitticus and Deuteronomy to justify their discrimination.

 

[michael hagerty]

So, here's a doozy. A story that CBS News was allowed to report online, but when the CBS Evening News did a similar story the following day, it was completely different. Essential pull-quote:

On February 9, CBS News published an exclusive report under the headline: “Less than 14% of those arrested by ICE in Trump's 1st year back in office had violent criminal records, document shows.” The article stated that although roughly 60% of ICE arrestees had criminal charges or convictions, “the majority of the criminal charges or convictions are not for violent crimes.” For example, about 1.4% of people held by ICE have been accused or convicted of sexual assault, and about 0.5% have been accused or convicted of homicide. By contrast, 7.6% percent of ICE arrestees with a so-called criminal history simply have a DUI.

The Department of Homeland Security data undercuts a central, load-bearing myth deployed by right-wing media and the Trump administration to justify its nationwide crackdown on immigrant communities — namely, claims that ICE and Border Patrol are going after the “worst of the worst.” In fact, nearly 40% of people in ICE custody have no violation other than a civil immigration infraction.

Viewers of CBS Evening News on February 10 got an entirely inverted picture, one that more closely aligns with the Trump administration's preferred narrative.

“ICE arrested nearly 400,000 people in President Trump's first year in office,” said anchor Tony Dokoupil. “Of those, nearly 60% had criminal histories, meaning charges or convictions, including many for serious crimes such as drug trafficking and child pornography, and several thousand cases involving rape or murder."

Full article:

CBS Evening News inverts its network's own reporting on ICE arrestees’ low rates of violent criminal histories

www.mediamatters.org

 

[newsmark]

So, here's a doozy. A story that CBS News was allowed to report online, but when the CBS Evening News did a similar story the following day, it was completely different. Essential pull-quote:



Full article:

CBS Evening News inverts its network's own reporting on ICE arrestees’ low rates of violent criminal histories

www.mediamatters.org

In just the past week, Robert Costa reported twice on the CBS Evening News that Trump “continues to lie” about winning the 2020 election.

 

[TheBigA]

In just the past week, Robert Costa reported twice on the CBS Evening News that Trump “continues to lie” about winning the 2020 election.

In my view, he should be the anchor of the Evening News.

 

[michael hagerty]

In just the past week, Robert Costa reported twice on the CBS Evening News that Trump “continues to lie” about winning the 2020 election.

Having trouble tracking that down. Do you remember which nights and whether the phrase was "continues to lie"?