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"Newsroom culture clash" at CBS News

The president apparently doesn't approve of CBS News, regardless of who's in charge, or what they do. He said so on Sunday:
He also thinks taking multiple cognitive tests is somehow a point of pride. That in his emotionally unstable fit of rage he just babbled out his usual litany of targets seems unsurprising.
Everybody is crooked except for the president. In his world, he won with 94% of the electorate. He keeps telling himself that.
And except those who praise him. Coming to him with tears in their eyes, saying "Sir, sir, I dare not gaze upon you lest my eyes become damaged from your radiant glow."
 
The FCC's Brendan Carr says Scott Pelley is "out of touch."


"One of the reasons why trust in media is so low is because many legacy journalists are completely out of touch,” Carr, who has served as Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission since 2025, wrote via X on Sunday, June 7. The post was shared one day after Pelley, 68, conducted his first sit-down interview since he was let go from the CBS news program. "You could not get away with that behavior at any run of the mill job. It is revealing to see how blind some are to that,” Carr, 47, concluded.

He ignores the fact that trust in government is lower than trust in the media. People prefer to trust the media than their government. According to Pew, trust in media is about 28%, while trust in government is at 17%.

Also being on 60 Minutes is not a "run of the mill job." It's shocking he thinks that it is.
 
The FCC's Brendan Carr says Scott Pelley is "out of touch."




He ignores the fact that trust in government is lower than trust in the media. People prefer to trust the media than their government. According to Pew, trust in media is about 28%, while trust in government is at 17%.

Also being on 60 Minutes is not a "run of the mill job." It's shocking he thinks that it is.

Well its all about Brendan Carr that supports Bari Weiss and David Ellison firing Scott Pelley that is what it is here.
 
If you did that completely on your own without the support of your family, that's a great story, and you really should be proud of it. Understand, however, that you are the exception to the rule. Yes, people who make it out of sheer grit and determination do exist, but, if you're running a business, you're always better off looking for a candidate with education, experience, or the right combination of the two. Hiring on moxie alone is the equivalent of investing your retirement in the lottery.
I lost my father, who administered a cemetery, when I was about 11. But my dad taught me to work part time jobs, first for neighbors and then at a nearby print shop even before I became a teenager. Then I got a part time radio job. And I invested everything in either Hammarlund receivers or the stock market. By the time I fell into the chance to buy and build a radio station, I had all the money needed to make it happen. I had been ultra-bored in high school, often falling to sleep in the slow moving classes... so the challenge of building a station where I could move at my own pace was invigorating.

Laws today would prevent me from taking most of those jobs... or prevent stations from allowing me to hang around every day after school, so it is likely what I did could not happen today as the government would protect me from being successful.
 
There's a difference between having formal education and having knowledge & experience. Nobody says Bari Weiss needs a college education. She has to know how to produce network TV. That isn't something you're born with or can fake.
But to some it comes naturally, intuitively and rapidly.
 
Laws today would prevent me from taking most of those jobs... or prevent stations from allowing me to hang around every day after school, so it is likely what I did could not happen today as the government would protect me from being successful.

It might also protect you from some radio employees who might be child predators. There have been a bunch of those stories lately. The laws didn't protect those kids either. Those laws were passed by parents who didn't want their children exploited by other adults. However, if your parents would sign a waiver, it might bypass the laws. I started working in radio at 17.

But to some it comes naturally, intuitively and rapidly.

That's obviously not the case here.
 
The FCC's Brendan Carr says Scott Pelley is "out of touch."




He ignores the fact that trust in government is lower than trust in the media. People prefer to trust the media than their government. According to Pew, trust in media is about 28%, while trust in government is at 17%.

Also being on 60 Minutes is not a "run of the mill job." It's shocking he thinks that it is.


  • President Donald Trump plans to ask the U.S. Supreme Court to revive his defamation lawsuit against CNN, according to a legal filing.
  • Trump’s lawsuit seeks $475 million, alleging CNN defamed him by using the term “Big Lie” in election coverage.
  • Several lower courts have blocked Trump’s efforts to sue CNN thus far, saying the complaint did not meet the necessary legal standards to allege defamation against the news organization.

Here is more given the update we are heading to. Yes CNN is targeted in this lawsuit and Bari Weiss has been rumored for some time to be the president of CNN and David Ellison would be CEO of WB too if the Paramount/WB merger is finalized. This is not the end of the road yet given that states like California are preparing to file a lawsuit against the Ellisons related to the merger and antitrust concerns.
 
This is comedy, right? It feels like it has to be.

I've run some live streams for a community event. Am I ready to produce 60 Minutes? Don't pretend for one moment that for all your "pages and pages" (lol) of names that were you in charge of a network that you would put me in charge of producing a program, no matter what my self-professed drive, talent and skills may be.

Heck, I ran a lemonade stand. Why hasn't WalMart come calling to be in charge of their commerce operations? I proved by drive, my talent and skill.

You know what would fill many more pages and pages? The lists of people who had lots of talent, lots of drive, lots of intelligence and lots of skills who failed in their roles. Not for lack of those traits. But for lack of real-world experience. For lack of understanding the realities of the role in which they found themselves. Sometimes for hubris. Sometimes for gross misconduct. Sometimes just for not being the right person for a role.

Bari has already failed spectacularly. The evening news program is remarkably somehow in worse shape than she found it. They can't even competently book a place for their anchor to broadcast from the same country as the president on a significant overseas trip. Her track record before CBS already showed she was not the person for this role if it were actually to be filled by someone....well, let's set the bar at competent. Even that would be a stretch for where CBS is now.

We also know she was not hired for that reason. She was willing to be the person who swung the sledgehammer on behalf of her bosses. She isn't there to build, she's there to demolish. She's there to appease a certain political interest, and destroy objectivity in the process.
You are assuming that people will be "given" jobs. Some people make them happen by inserting themselves into the process and demonstrating a rapid and successful learning curve. As an example, A person I hired as my secretary years ago became the general manager of the station some years after I had moved on... because she always tried to ask and learn about everything that went on. She was amazingly intelligent and assertive, and learned on her own and of her own initiative.

Your post assumes that someone has to have a mentor or be part of a program to succeed. There are many who have the needed skills and who make a place for themselves.

I've never found that someone, for example, could be taught to be a program director. The ones that have been successful had the talent and learned the necessary trade skills on their own and created their own set of rules.
 
The ones that have been successful had the talent and learned the necessary trade skills on their own and created their own set of rules.

In this case, Bari Weiss had friends in high places who pushed her name to the front of the line, ahead of more highly qualified people who actually had knowledge and experience in network TV production.

 
You are assuming that people will be "given" jobs. Some people make them happen by inserting themselves into the process and demonstrating a rapid and successful learning curve. As an example, A person I hired as my secretary years ago became the general manager of the station some years after I had moved on... because she always tried to ask and learn about everything that went on. She was amazingly intelligent and assertive, and learned on her own and of her own initiative.
What you are describing really applies nowadays to industries just starting up where the rules of promotion haven't been figured out yet and where there is a lot of competition in the same field. In mature industries where there are fewer companies (and which broadcasting is rapidly heading towards), there are rules set down for promotion. Yes, management may look at a new entrant who works hard, but *only* if that new entrant is in the right field to begin with. It is very seldom (in fact, almost never, which is saying the same thing) that in a mature industry, you hire someone to be a secretary and that person comes to own her own radiostation or whatever business you are doing. When executives go to hand the keys to the top floor to someone else, they either look at their own managers (the people with whom they work on a daily basis) or they'll hire a headhunting company to find the replacement from outside. And you know what? Those headhunting companies don't look at secretaries taking over the job of the current executive--they hunt for other executives, usually in the same industry who are either retired or are willing to relocate from their current position for whatever reason.

Your post assumes that someone has to have a mentor or be part of a program to succeed. There are many who have the needed skills and who make a place for themselves.
Again, your assumption works *only* in new industries where the rules haven't been figured out yet, but that can no longer really be applied to radio and television broadcasting because they are mature businesses. (See above for further discussion.)

I've never found that someone, for example, could be taught to be a program director. The ones that have been successful had the talent and learned the necessary trade skills on their own and created their own set of rules.

I actually think you are correct here. By the same token, you can't really teach corporate leadership skills, especially in mature industries, such as radio and television. What you can do, however, is teach people the kinds of things that leaders have to be (selflessness with regard to the company comes immediately to mind) and then hope for the best when it comes to them actually leading.
 
What you are describing really applies nowadays to industries just starting up where the rules of promotion haven't been figured out yet and where there is a lot of competition in the same field.

Yep. This has been part of the story of my career over the past few years since leaving radio. The industry is still new (autonomous vehicles) and as such there aren't that many "that guy has been around forever" people. But it's also not a bunch of kids with no experience whatsoever. When I'd reached the top of my tier, I went after an analyst job with the company. The people I interviewed with? One of the analysts on the team, a company attorney, a 20 year veteran police detective, a former Pentagon analyst, and the head of the department, who was a veteran of the British Special Forces. I felt so out of place ("um, my qualifications are that I used to make noises into a microphone?") but what I'd learned in my job up until that point made me a perfect fit for the position. Would I have been given the same chance in a mature industry? Probably not, but I got in at the ground floor in this one.
 
Lemme just cut to the chase. We're talking about the


DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE


For f***'s sake.

I know, right? In addition to the people I listed above that were on our incident response/crisis management team was a guy we called "The Colonel." In addition to his rank, he worked for the Defense Intelligence Agency as a division chief for Europe, and had been the Director of the US Indo-Pacific Command among other things. Between him, the Pentagon analyst, and the British Special Forces guy, there were three people on our team with more qualifications for a Defense Dept/Intelligence agency job than Trump's entire cabinet combined. How is it even possible that I know people far more qualified than Bill Pulte?
 
How is it even possible that I know people far more qualified than Bill Pulte?

Because the goal isn't to get qualified people. That's not the basis for employment. Same with Weiss. She served a specific purpose that had nothing to do with ability or qualification. She didn't have to pass an audition. She didn't need a track record of ratings. She didn't have to win any awards or get any national recognition for what she did. Yet somehow, she got a top job, plus a $150 million payout. Where do I go for that?

Brendan Carr talks about trust in media. Why should viewers trust Bari Weiss? What has she done to earn my trust? People don't trust the media for the same reason they don't trust Brendan Carr. Brendan Carr just made a deal that makes Elon Musk richer, while making it more difficult for people in rural areas to get high speed internet.,

 
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As I posted elsewhere, Abraham Lincoln did not formally study law and educated himself by reading. There can be exceptional people who are qualified for a sophisticated job because they have unique qualities that don't require formal educations.
Except that...in that time and place, the 19th century American frontier, that's how it was done. Those who aspired to be lawyers essentially apprenticed with experienced lawyers. Reading law was a part of that process. Lincoln may have been an exceptional individual, but the path by which he became a lawyer was not exceptional.

This dovetails with other points made in this thread: in new fields, opportunities are wide-open. Dogma hasn't been established; major problems have yet to be worked out; innovation and new ideas are frequent. @Deus Ex Machiato mentioned autonomous vehicles; I spent more than a quarter-century in cybersecurity. When I started, there were no degree programs in the field, nor certifications, and very few books about it. For the first 15 years or so, it was great. I learned a lot by solving a variety of problems...and by learning from researchers and colleagues. There was no other way to do it. I didn't think I had all the answers and had to learn as best I could, sometimes innovating myself. I became a pioneer in one particular branch of cybersecurity (third-party assurance). About the time I went into executive management, the field started changing. The first sign was increased specialization. Degree programs sprang up, particularly from for-profit institutions but also from some more regular universities. The field started becoming a little dogmatic and ossified, causing some to chase their tails by repeatedly having to solve already-solved problems. It became harder for newcomers to break into the field (at least on the defensive side of the equation). But none of that meant that expertise was unimportant. It was and is very important, especially in dealing with certain types of systems. For example, no electric or gas or water utility is going to let a 15-year-old amateur anywhere near the defense of their critical systems. There are many amateur attackers, but they are trying to tear things down and rip people off, not build them up.

And that last sentence has become the story of CBS News as well. It's easy...and, for some, more fun and profitable...to tear things down. It's a lot harder to build them up. Bari Weiss can be as critical as she wants. But she didn't take into account the practical effects of her demands and their timing, imperiling the ability of her organization to actually have a broadcast and to report. That's because she didn't know what she was doing.

Scott Pelley did Bari Weiss a favor by ignoring her directives. If those directives had been followed, there wouldn't have been a 60 Minutes that night, and all hell would've broken loose. If Bari Weiss had survived that, then whatever credibility remained at CBS News would've been blown to bits. As it is, she's looking more like a destroyer than a builder.

By the way, there have been presidents of CBS News (Richard Salant was one) who weren't journalists. But they knew enough to know when they should listen to the practitioners on their staff. Respect is earned; some of it comes reciprocally from respecting the expertise of those who work for you.
 
By the way, there have been presidents of CBS News (Richard Salant was one) who weren't journalists. But they knew enough to know when they should listen to the practitioners on their staff. Respect is earned; some of it comes reciprocally from respecting the expertise of those who work for you.

True story---I worked for a General Manager in TV once who parachuted into his first GM gig from a sales job at a TV station 1,500 miles away. He told me this story.

On his first day, he went to the News Director after the 5:00 p.m. news and said "good newscast".

The ND said "How would you know?"

This GM could have fired the guy on the spot, I suppose. Some would have. But this guy realized that he was right. He had NO IDEA what a good newscast for that station or even for that city would look like. He stopped blowing smoke and started listening. They ended up working very well together and having a great deal of mutual respect.
 
True story---I worked for a General Manager in TV once who parachuted into his first GM gig from a sales job at a TV station 1,500 miles away. He told me this story.

On his first day, he went to the News Director after the 5:00 p.m. news and said "good newscast".

The ND said "How would you know?"

This GM could have fired the guy on the spot, I suppose. Some would have. But this guy realized that he was right. He had NO IDEA what a good newscast for that station or even for that city would look like. He stopped blowing smoke and started listening. They ended up working very well together and having a great deal of mutual respect.
I can relate to that. We had a manager come into my previous employer who replaced a well-liked manager (the guy that hired me) and he promptly set about marking his territory, trying to be the one "in charge." My first meeting with him was when he walked by, pointed at me and said "Dave?" Nope. Not Dave. He went over to my supervisor and asked "who is this guy and what's he doing here?" My supervisor replied "he's one of our top people, a Level 4 expert."

Once he'd settled in, everything changed. He realized that he was out of his depth, and was very deferential to my team. He bought us breakfast on a few occasions, and when he wasn't going to be around he would tell us we didn't need management approval for anything. "You guys know what you're doing. If anybody asks, tell 'em it's per (his name)."


He earned respect.
 


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