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NFL Blackout Watch '11

Mediafrog+ said:
landtuna said:
As for the money aspect of NCAA football.....each and every scholarship player has the opportunity to acquire a quality education for practically no out of pocket cost. They should be grateful for that opportunity and not quibble about being paid in addition. After all, they don't have to be student athletes if they find it so distasteful.

The problem is that the amount of money that major universities are raking in from college football is way out of proportion to the value of a full-ride scholarship. Tuition/room/board/books/fees/etc. at a state school are around 15k dollars a year.

I'm not going to defend the policies of the NCAA because, along with almost everyone else, I believe a lot of the "amateur" labeling is a sham, but colleges make their money in various ways. Some of it is research funded by government and private industry. Some of it is tuition charged to the students. And a bunch of it is by providing entertainment in the form of student sports. Colleges are a business and are obviously allowed to earn revenue on their skills and services. I see no practical difference between the science department running labs testing mice for disease cures and the university putting a team on the football field.

Going right to the point of your comment though is the fact that the football program at most higher-level colleges directly support all those lesser sports that otherwise would not be offered because they don't draw gigantic public support. There are a ton of student athletes that profit from football even though they don't play the game.

Mediafrog+ said:
...but compare that to the lavish salaires of college coaches, who, after all, are supposedly running an AMATEUR sport, at an institution supposedly there to provide an EDUCATION, not be a developmental league for the NFL.

Coaches at premier colleges are paid big bucks because they are able to use their records and names to recruit top-skilled athletes to their programs. It is no different than top performers in any other career field.

And just what is a college if not to prepare their students for careers? Is teaching science to someone who will go on to become a nationally recognized expert in the field of physics any different than someone who can run a 9-second 40-yard sprint and goes on to become a nationally respected running back? I think not. Colleges are training grounds for all manner of students - both the mental kind and the athlete.

And yes, the NFL does profit by the college athlete but so does the NHL, MLB and to a lessor degree the NBA and CFL. Those are the career equivalents of Fidelity Corp. for the finance majors and NASA for rocket scientists.

Mediafrog+ said:
This isn't 50 years ago when things were on a much more modest scale. TV revenue has distorted amateur sports out of recognition. The Olympics has the same problem, with athletes, that are for all intents and purposes, professionals.

Yes, 50 years ago the professional sports scene was quite a bit different. Hockey and baseball players didn't come through the college ranks and football was almost invisible outside of several large cities primarily in the East. There are significantly more dollars in athletic careers today than there were all those years ago but much the same is true for all profession.

Charlie Sheen earned $2M per episode of "Two and A Half Men" because he was the central character in the most successful comedy show on TV. 50 years ago it was Lucy or Gleason or Skelton. The dollars were different but the situation wasn't.

The Olympics has become a showcase for professional athletes from first world countries and amateurs for all others and has greatly diluted its product. Personally, I don't bother to watch any more and I was once an avid fan. The Olympics should not be compared to NCAA sports though as the issues facing each are not related.
 
liradioisbad said:
We already have a blackout for next Sunday. And it's the Bengals:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/17/bengals-week-three-game-already-blacked-out/

There has been so much disillusion with the Bengals fanbase over the past 20 years, so it's not really surprising.

Ah, you beat me to it. Normally they try to get someone like Kroger to buy up the extra tickets. I'm assuming there's so many not sold, they are not even gonna try. I live in Louisville and can still watch the game. Will be interesting to see how empty Paul Brown Stadium is next week.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2011/09/17/next-sundays-game-will-be-blacked-out/
 
Bengalsfan said:
liradioisbad said:
We already have a blackout for next Sunday. And it's the Bengals:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/17/bengals-week-three-game-already-blacked-out/

There has been so much disillusion with the Bengals fanbase over the past 20 years, so it's not really surprising.

Ah, you beat me to it. Normally they try to get someone like Kroger to buy up the extra tickets. I'm assuming there's so many not sold, they are not even gonna try.

Funny that they're already announcing the blackout more than a week before the game, way before the 72-hour cutoff. Apparently, in this economy, it's not worth it to see a losing team, so they throw in the towel when the round barely begun.
 
Looking at today's results, I'll be very surprised if next week's matchup between the Cardinals and the Seahawks isn't blacked out in Seattle...
 
I'm not a sports fan, but I've been reading about NFL blackouts for a while. There was a story in businessinsider.com about the Jacksonville, Florider franchise buying up unsold tickets at 33% of list price. One of these days I'll have to see if any game from that stadium is on local TV (Boston, thus the FL spelling).
 
Nate Wesley said:
Pat Cook said:
It must be a bamboozling wonder to the NFL owners as to why & how the CFL & the Arena League are so successful WITHOUT the help of NFL Network. It's gotta be. That's the only way it can possibly be explained

Pat, I like you--but did you really think about this sentence before you clicked 'post'?
Yes I did Nate. But the point I was trying to make is that the Arena League is a fan friendly league by keeping their ticket prices & other overhead down whereas the average person can afford to go to the games (Even in this economy) & the CFL is a nice alternative to the NFL (Mainly because its imported from Canada :D )

Thankfully the management of NFL Network isn't as stupid as the rest of the league :D

Cheers & 73 :)
 
I saw a tweet yesterday that the Chargers need to sell 4,000+ tickets to sell out their next home game this Sunday.
 
The tight'uns narrowly avoided another blackout, keeping their sellout streak (at least, here in Nashville) intact. The game with Denver this Sunday is a sellout. But it's taking the tight'uns MUCH longer to sellout games this year than in seasons past.
 
e-dawg said:
How about the Oakland Raiders being blackout every home game.

I don't know... They've actually been playing some good football lately! If you put close to 70 points on the scoreboard in two back-to-back games, you'd better pull some sort of crowd - even if it's the "lubed up" variety that Tom Brady speaks of...

Meanwhile, we haven't even seen tonight's Monday Night Football game, and there's already talk of a blackout for next week's Monday Night Football game in Tampa:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/45614/will-buccaneers-sell-out-for-mnf
 
DToTheJ said:
e-dawg said:
How about the Oakland Raiders being blackout every home game.

I don't know... They've actually been playing some good football lately! If you put close to 70 points on the scoreboard in two back-to-back games, you'd better pull some sort of crowd - even if it's the "lubed up" variety that Tom Brady speaks of...

They can only allow so many Sunday furloughs and Neilsen doesn't measure jail cells ;D
 
And the streak stays alive - no, not Tony Sparano's coaching streak, but the Dolphins' home sellout streak. Despite winning their first game of the season just two weeks ago, there will not be a blackout in Miami for the 106th straight game. Of course, the Dolphins themselves, in addition to their own local CBS affiliate WFOR as well as some sponsors had to pony up to make it happen...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/18/dolphins-once-again-buy-tickets-to-avoid-blackout/
 
The Week 13 maps are out:
http://the506.com/nflmaps/2011/wk13.html

I don't know if this is just an error or an oversight, but I noticed that for the Carolina/Tampa Bay game, the Tampa station has a gray area, indicating "no game due to NFL rules". Yet there is no official word of a blackout for that game as of yet. Also, if the game were truly blacked out, then nearby WFTX in Fort Myers would not be showing the game either, since they are within a 75-mile radius of Tampa.

I also hear that Buffalo's next home game against Tennessee may not sell out. So much for their once-promising start to the season. And you know your team has hit rock-bottom when you've got CBS' "F" team calling your game. :D
 
DToTheJ said:
I don't know if this is just an error or an oversight, but I noticed that for the Carolina/Tampa Bay game, the Tampa station has a gray area, indicating "no game due to NFL rules". Yet there is no official word of a blackout for that game as of yet. Also, if the game were truly blacked out, then nearby WFTX in Fort Myers would not be showing the game either, since they are within a 75-mile radius of Tampa.

It's not an oversight, and it's not due to the blackout rules. Another NFL rule is that when the local team is at home and on TV, the other station cannot air a game against it. Therefore, Tampa Bay is sold out at home, but CBS has the doubleheader this week, so Tampa/St. Pete only gets one CBS game, as Fox airs the Tampa Bay game without a competing game from CBS. The rule only applies to the primary market, which is why Fort Myers does get the CBS doubleheader.
 
dhett said:
Another NFL rule is that when the local team is at home and on TV, the other station cannot air a game against it. Therefore, Tampa Bay is sold out at home, but CBS has the doubleheader this week, so Tampa/St. Pete only gets one CBS game, as Fox airs the Tampa Bay game without a competing game from CBS. The rule only applies to the primary market, which is why Fort Myers does get the CBS doubleheader.

Though I believe that if the home game is blacked out, then the games are still limited to one per network, with the affiliate with the blacked-out game showing another game instead.
 
DToTheJ said:
I don't know if this is just an error or an oversight, but I noticed that for the Carolina/Tampa Bay game, the Tampa station has a gray area, indicating "no game due to NFL rules". Yet there is no official word of a blackout for that game as of yet. Also, if the game were truly blacked out, then nearby WFTX in Fort Myers would not be showing the game either, since they are within a 75-mile radius of Tampa.

Incorrect. WFTX has aired every Bucs home game that was blacked out by WTVT.

The days of blacking out games in the Fort Myers market not sold out either in Miami or Tampa is in the past.
 
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