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NFL Playoffs on Philly Radio

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The NFL playoffs start this weekend. I'm hoping that the 3 other games besides the eagles will be heard on the Philly radio stations not counting ESPN 920 AM. It would be a mistake if the philly radio stations do not broadcast the 2 other NFL playoff games this weekend. WPEN 950 AM will broadcast the first playoff game Kansas City at Indianapolis after Villanova basketball Saturday, don't know about Dallas at Seattle Saturday night and N.Y. Jets at New England on Sunday. If someone can find out the local radio info on the other 2 games, please let me know
 
They have the playoffs games list on WBCB 1490 web site. It looks like they will have all the playoffs games. The only game WIP could doing will be the early game on Sunday. Because the Flyers have a Afternoon game on Saturday and the sixers play Saturday night.
 
JMay, I will give you this...of ALL of the sports, football is the most sought after on the radio. Football = ratings more often than not. But again, I don't think the vast majority of folks will want to listen to the national broadcasts of the other playoff games, hence it wouldn't surprise me at all if it didn't go down. We talked about this with baseball...local broadcasts fare far better than national ones in sports. How many people demanded that someone in this market air NHL Radio's coverage of the Stanley Cup Finals. Well, aside from you, Julius, probably no one. BTW, who calls their radio stuff these days? Sam Rosen still? Anyway, my point is simple, my honorable friend. Satellite radio is your friend, Julius. Go to it. It doesn't bite.

I'm surprised you didn't say, "We should also hear the Westwood One broadcast of the Eagles game Sunday."
 
Dancerev889 said:
WIP is doing Eagles pregame on Sunday. Plus their a Flyers game on Sunday as well.
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950 AM should be airing the other 2 games. If they can't, WPHT 1210 AM would be another station to put the games on.
 
No NFL Playoffs on Philly Radio! Thank goodness.

I suppose we just have to get used to beating this same dead horse as any post-season in any sport approaches.

It does say something about the state of radio - or the state of our culture - that people in general would rather listen to people talking (more accurately ranting and arguing) about sports than listen to ballgames. Just as people in general would rather listen to people talking (again ranting and arguing) about news than listen to news happening. Sports stations increasingly won't carry play by play. All news and news-talk stations increasingly don't break in for live coverage of breaking stories.

Why?

Lack of audience interest (one exception noted). Most people have a little box in their house that lets them actually see the game (or news event). For ballgames and news events, radio is an incomplete medium (like silent movies).

In small markets, there still is a place for play by play on the radio. The level of audience involvement in local high school or small college sports is often intense. Advertisers want to buy time in the games (even if their spots don't reach many people, local merchants believe they benefit from association with the hometown team). And the games are often not available on the tube.

And, sometimes - in some markets - you have a very popular local play by play announcer like Merrill Reese and radio broadcasts become a second audio channel for people watching the game.

Radio play by play has become a lot art. The current crop of ex-jocks trading war stories while a game is being played are incapable of making radio listeners "see" the game in the stadium of the mind. About the only true radio play by play announcer left (and he does baseball, not football) is Vin Scully. The great football callers like Bill Campbell Ray Scott and Van Patrick are long gone or retired and no one has taken their place.

So, I think maybe I will call the program directors at WPEN, WIP and WPHT and congratulate them on their wise and savvy decision NOT to carry play-off games with out of town teams. I urge you to call, too. Tell them football on the radio is bad radio. Philadelphia is the number seven market and we deserve NOT to have regular programming preempted for football games like some minor market.
 
I would like the other posters on this board to please call the radio stations in Philadelphia today and ask them and find out once and for all will they air the 3 other playoff games this weekend.
 
Julius May said:
I would like the other posters on this board to please call the radio stations in Philadelphia today and ask them and find out once and for all will they air the 3 other playoff games this weekend.
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NO.

It's 2007. XM satellite radio carries every baseball and NHL game for $13/month. Sirius carries every NFL and NBA game for $13/month. Digital cable. Satellite TV. HD broadcast TV. NFL Network. DVR's. VCR's. Tivo. Streaming video on the internet. GAMES ON AM RADIO AREN'T NECESSARY ANYMORE!

Anyone who is that interested in seeing one of these out-of-market playoff games will find themselves near a TV at some point.
 
Watch the games on TV. Radio is a business. If a station doesnt want to pick up the games thats their rights. WIP is broadcasting one of the games. The have a contract with the Flyers and Sixers so they have to broadcast the games. Sunday we have a pregame show from 1-3. The pregame show has sponsors that paid a lot of money, which is more money to the station then it is to run a out of town game. Plus the Eagles are in the playoffs thats what people want to hear about and talk about. Then the Flyers are on. Why doesnt the "new home" of Monday night football carry it? If you dont like the state of radio, get some investors and buy one of these stations or dont listen.
 
It's 2007.  XM satellite radio carries every baseball and NHL game for $13/month.  Sirius carries every NFL and NBA game for $13/month.  Digital cable.  Satellite TV.  HD broadcast TV.  NFL Network.  DVR's.  VCR's.  Tivo.  Streaming video on the internet.  GAMES ON AM RADIO AREN'T NECESSARY ANYMORE!



he cant afford xm or sirus get over it leave the kid alone
 
Mike said:
It's 2007. XM satellite radio carries every baseball and NHL game for $13/month. Sirius carries every NFL and NBA game for $13/month. Digital cable. Satellite TV. HD broadcast TV. NFL Network. DVR's. VCR's. Tivo. Streaming video on the internet. GAMES ON AM RADIO AREN'T NECESSARY ANYMORE!



he cant afford xm or sirus get over it leave the kid alone
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Please note: Mike is allowed to comment in defense of another poster, while those who criticize are deleted.
Those who declare other topics on this board as unimportant or not relevant (for example the PPM encoding story) are allowed to say so and to debate the importance of the story. Posts which disagree about the need for play-offs on the radio or the value of this topic have been deleted. I ask for even-handed treatment of all topics and posters.

I say anyone's personal finances are not relevant here. But if one can afford cable or satellite TV, especially including premium sports channels, satellite radio should not be out of reach.

Which brings us back to the basic question: Why - now - is there any listener need for play by play coverage of non-local sporting events in the first place? I say there is not. There may be advertiser interest in some areas for some events. Much play by play coverage is for all practical purposes brokered programming.

The play-offs are on TV - free, broadcast TV. (Market penetration of television receivers is near universal, so the issue of anyone's ability to afford a TV is no longer an issue.) The games are on TV. Even some who call for play-offs on the radio acknowledge they watch the games on TV. Why would anyone chose to listen to the playoff games on the radio? Why is redundant coverage on radio needed or warranted?

People in cars? Anyone really interested in the game will make a point to watch it.
People at work? They should be working, not listening to ballgames. Besides most workplaces have TVs someplace around.

I read DEMANDS for play-offs on TV at the end of each and every sports season. I never read a good reason why I should care. Let alone, why I should be persuaded that play-offs on TV are desirable or necessary (even for those posting or supporting such demands).

I have yet to see those who demand out-of-town play-offs on the radio justify or even explain this position - and I would very much like to.
 
To all Philly radio PD's and stations: Jets/Patriots game Sunday, please air it

To all PD's of all Philadelphia PA radio stations: I'm asking one Philadelphia radio station to please air the westwood One NFL football game tomorrow at 1 PM pre-game 12:30 PM between the Jets/Patriots. This game should be cleared to be broadcast in this market. I don't even care if it has to air on WHAT 1340 AM, someone please air the game. Thanks
 
Generally, PDs don't work Saturday night (or Sunday morning).
Neither does the affiliate relations staff at Westwood One.
 
Re: To all Philly radio PD's and stations: Jets/Patriots game Sunday, please air it

Julius May said:
To all PD's of all Philadelphia PA radio stations: I'm asking one Philadelphia radio station to please air the westwood One NFL football game tomorrow at 1 PM pre-game 12:30 PM between the Jets/Patriots. This game should be cleared to be broadcast in this market. I don't even care if it has to air on WHAT 1340 AM, someone please air the game. Thanks
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1540 can broker it, maybe?
 
Julius, no one except you wants to hear national NFL playoff games on the radio.

And how about you call the stations? No one else cares about this.

Or how about you just watch the games on TV like the rest of us?
 
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Foe Paw said:
Julius May said:
To all PD's of all Philadelphia PA radio stations: I'm asking one Philadelphia radio station to please air the westwood One NFL football game tomorrow at 1 PM pre-game 12:30 PM between the Jets/Patriots. This game should be cleared to be broadcast in this market. I don't even care if it has to air on WHAT 1340 AM, someone please air the game. Thanks
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1540 can broker it, maybe?
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Excellent suggestion! RJ reportedly pays $300 an hour. Games run about three hours. $900 total. Maybe Westwood would even pay for clearing their spots, so that brings the price down a bit.
Other possibilities:
Drive to the Joyce Kilmer Rest Area on the Turnpike and listen on WEPN 1050.
Go to the game. Stub Hub has seats starting at $149.00.
Satellite Radio: $50 for the receiver plus $12.95 a month. 30day return. Listen to the play-offs. Take the receiver back for a refund and cancel the subscription.

Or watch the game on TV.

Back in the 50s, there were some people who held-out getting television. They wanted sit-coms, dramas and variety shows on the radio. A lot of the most popular radio shows moved to television. Some produced both radio and TV versions for a time. Eventually, the radio version stopped production. People watched shows on TV and DJs took over radio. A few people, to this day, still miss sit-coms, dramas and variety shows on the radio. They buy and trade recordings of old time radio shows. They have conventions. Every once in a while, someone will recreate old time radio dramas. Sometimes these few people have a few drinks and talk about old time radio making a come-back. But it never happens.

Similarly, some fans of silent movies thought silent films and pantomime on the screen were unique art forms and something was lost when talkies came in. Some film-makers, like Chaplin, resisted moving to talkies. Every once in a while, someone makes a silent film just to show it can be done (like Mel Brooks). But the era of silent films is over.

Same applies to play by play sports on the radio. It's a lost art. And a dead one.

But we are going to see the same posts on this topic when the basketball and hockey play-offs start in a few months. Some people's minds are completely closed on this subject.
Some people start threads and never read the replies.
That's not always bad. Sometimes the rest of the thread gets interesting.
 
There is a difference with the NY Jets game that some of us seem to have missed here. The Delaware Valley does, alas, have fans of New York teams. That may be hard to believe, but it happens. WFAN carries the Giants and the Mets. WCBS-AM carries the Yanks. So fans of those teams are covered in Philly. Unfortunately for Jets fans, the outlet is 1050, not exactly a powerhouse here because of KYW. So coverage of that game in the Delaware Valley is not so far fetched as it might sound.
 
WTUX said:
There is a difference with the NY Jets game that some of us seem to have missed here. The Delaware Valley does, alas, have fans of New York teams. That may be hard to believe, but it happens. WFAN carries the Giants and the Mets. WCBS-AM carries the Yanks. So fans of those teams are covered in Philly. Unfortunately for Jets fans, the outlet is 1050, not exactly a powerhouse here because of KYW. So coverage of that game in the Delaware Valley is not so far fetched as it might sound.
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Tux: It is covered. It's on CBS3. KYW-TV.

People do move around a lot. Any area has fans who remain loyal to their hometown team. Cable and satellite TV and satellite radio now make it possible for anyone to get ALL the games of every team (or any team). On top of that, and in addition to play-offs in which all games are on terrestrial TV, on any given week during the regular football season at least six games air on terrestrial (free) TV - sometimes more. Any fan, of any team, has plenty of opportunities to follow any game. And almost none of them chose to do so on the radio. Times have changed.
 
WTUX said:
The Delaware Valley does, alas, have fans of New York teams. That may be hard to believe, but it happens. WFAN carries the Giants and the Mets. WCBS-AM carries the Yanks. So fans of those teams are covered in Philly. Unfortunately for Jets fans, the outlet is 1050, not exactly a powerhouse here because of KYW. So coverage of that game in the Delaware Valley is not so far fetched as it might sound.
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Actually 77 WABC is and has been simulcasting all Jets games for the reasons you stated. Their 50,000 watt signal should be receptable in South Jersey, if not Philadelphia.

And if I can paraphrase a liner from a Tampa sports station: "For continued coverage of your favorite Northeastern sports teams... move the f--- back up there!"
 
No Philly station airing the 3rd playoff game today

No One is airing the westwoond game today between the Jets and New England. 920 AM WPHY is airng the game but that is a New Jersey station. I have had it. The Philly radio stations have let me down too many times with not clearing all national play by play broadcasts so much that I will give up this national play by play fight on local radio. I'm very angry at all the philly radio stations for not clearing this game to air on local radio on one station. I give up with this issue. I give up
 
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