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Nice and Quiet at WDCF This Morning

Ahh, the joys of radio in eastern Pasco County. This morning while driving to work, I though I would tune into the Tan-Talk network for the latest in advertising specials in Clearwater nearly 50 miles away. You know I always drive over to Clearwater to stay at one of the Scientology owned and operated motels courtesy of "Lola Jean, The Radio Queen."

Anyway, I was treated to dead-air no doubt a result of a drop in the internet conenction. Or possibly the phone company did not get paid? What's really a hoot is that WZHR is housed and I do mean housed in a 1500 square foot house right along side WDCF. You would think that since there is a live person in ZHR, they might sloth over to the pc in the DFC room and click on reconnect. :)

Now if I could just get them to turn on the tower light on the FAA registered 205 foot tower!
 
druidhillsradio said:
Ahh, the joys of radio in eastern Pasco County. This morning while driving to work, I though I would tune into the Tan-Talk network for the latest in advertising specials in Clearwater nearly 50 miles away. You know I always drive over to Clearwater to stay at one of the Scientology owned and operated motels courtesy of "Lola Jean, The Radio Queen."

Anyway, I was treated to dead-air no doubt a result of a drop in the internet connection. Or possibly the phone company did not get paid? What's really a hoot is that WZHR is housed and I do mean housed in a 1500 square foot house right along side WDCF. You would think that since there is a live person in ZHR, they might sloth over to the pc in the DFC room and click on reconnect. :)

Now if I could just get them to turn on the tower light on the FAA registered 205 foot tower!

The Wagonwheels, er Wagenvoord's own a hotel?

And if you're so concerned, why don't you call someone at the station in Clearwater or up at WZHR?
 
I agree... Give them a call, sounds like they could use all the help to can get, and then some ;)

Small town AM radio is in sad shape, make that terrible shape, not too many success stories around anymore, if any. Dade City, Z'hills, New Port Richey, Clermont, Eustis, just awfull IMHO. The Villages, Brooksville, and the 1120 in Bartow are about the only signs of life on Mars!
 
greenie said:
I agree... Give them a call, sounds like they could use all the help to can get, and then some ;)

Small town AM radio is in sad shape, make that terrible shape, not too many success stories around anymore, if any. Dade City, Z'hills, New Port Richey, Clermont, Eustis, just awfull IMHO. The Villages, Brooksville, and the 1120 in Bartow are about the only signs of life on Mars!

The 1130 in Bartow is for sale.

The 1340 in Clearmont is nothing but a promo tool for the guy who owns it.
 
And if you're so concerned, why don't you call someone at the station in Clearwater or up at WZHR?



I did. Called the ZHR/DCF number and no one anserwed. Most of the time there is no one there. Call Clearwater and I was told that it come's on automatically. And BTW, tower lights exist for a reason. Ask the realtives of the dead up in Ill.
 
Just for your information, nearby security cameras have proof that those tower lights were on and working OK at the time the Medivac copter ran into the towers Guy wires. Looks to be a similas situation that took down the 680 AM tower a few years ago by a Bayflite chopper. Sad, tragic, but and accident not caused by a broadcaster
 
sbe1 said:
Just for your information, nearby security cameras have proof that those tower lights were on and working OK at the time the Medivac copter ran into the towers Guy wires. Looks to be a similas situation that took down the 680 AM tower a few years ago by a Bayflite chopper. Sad, tragic, but and accident not caused by a broadcaster

Did I miss something? Did 1350's tower come down? I was briefly Operations Manager for WDCF, at the time Dave Zeplowitz dumped WPAS and we bought 1400. (I then changed the calls to WZHR.) BTW, not that the stations were worth bragging about, but at least in those days (about 12-13 years ago) we were local on both and that included an in-house journalist. Seem to think back then, the stations made a small profit (at least our paychecks didn't bounce). ;D
 
1350'S tower didn't come down, they were referring to the medical helicopter that crashed when it clipped the guy wire of a tower in Chicago.
 
Thanks for clarification. :) Afterthought: if WDCF's tower ever came down, would anyone notice? :eek:
 
Hi David,

The WAS replaced a couple of years ago, BEFORE it fell down. ;D A tower monkey climbed it and said he would never climb it again. Full of holes from lightning strikes.
 
David Sharp said:
Thanks for clarification. :) Afterthought: if WDCF's tower ever came down, would anyone notice? :eek:

Only the ones who used to use the beacon for target practice! That cover had to be replaced a couple of times in the past from that. Years ago those lights were subject
to RF and several times the lights would actually "dance" to the music. You should have seen them when Walter Murphys "A Fifth of Beethoven" would play. It was a wild sight! David, hope you are doing well!!

Tim
 
Hi Tim. Good to hear from you. RF was always an issue at WDCF and it caused some interesting problems when WPAS/WZHR moved-in to the building. Sometime after I left, I understand they installed a digital (computer) system for WZHR and was told it had WDCF RF all through it. Personal note: very happy in Australia and actually being paid good $$$ to pretty much do radio the "way I want." 8)
 
Tower? Hmm. Don't recall one of those when I was there in 1990...oh well...
 
David,

Yes RF was always a problem. They did install that AudioVault system in 1996 and needless to say was my pink slip after 12 great years with those stations. And Matt you do not remember the tower?? you know it was that thing we used to crank up in the morning and crank down at night when we signed off!! Just kidding hope you are well also.

Tim
 
I was there the day the Audio Vault Died. Kablooie, a nice strike on the old tower and the AV, Phaser and about anything with a PN junction was fried.
 
radioguybroadcasting said:
You were better off anyways, AudioVault sucks...

I remember when the Paxon stations (or maybe we had already been bought by Clear Channel) converted to Audio Vault. Absolutely terrible! I remember, they had practice sessions for the staff, so we could figure it out. Weeks later, we were still asking each other how to do stuff. I think all of us (and there were probably over a hundred staffers in the building) at one point or another entertained the thought of quitting because the software was so bad!
 
David Sharp said:
radioguybroadcasting said:
You were better off anyways, AudioVault sucks...

I remember when the Paxon stations (or maybe we had already been bought by Clear Channel) converted to Audio Vault. Absolutely terrible! I remember, they had practice sessions for the staff, so we could figure it out. Weeks later, we were still asking each other how to do stuff. I think all of us (and there were probably over a hundred staffers in the building) at one point or another entertained the thought of quitting because the software was so bad!

We had AudioVault at a station I worked for.

Between the automation, music scheduling software and logs... we had 3 different computers we needed to use.

it was clunky and fidgety.

Their TECH SUPPORT was HORRIBLE.... i often sat around for 3 hours waiting for a call back and always ended up CALLING THEM BACK and finally getting someone when I CALLED a 2nd time
 
David Sharp said:
I remember when the Paxon stations (or maybe we had already been bought by Clear Channel) converted to Audio Vault. Absolutely terrible! I remember, they had practice sessions for the staff, so we could figure it out. Weeks later, we were still asking each other how to do stuff. I think all of us (and there were probably over a hundred staffers in the building) at one point or another entertained the thought of quitting because the software was so bad!


Most of the computer problems at Paxson were caused by the world's worst engineer, a fellow named "Jim", whose main talents were shrugging his shoulders and day-trading in his office. Then CC came in, recognized his "talents" and promoted him to Palm Beach. Last I heard, he was a big corporate "trainer" for them... Yeah.

The Audiovault installation at the Tampa Paxson stations was "borrowed" from Paxson's Miami cluster, and probably not paid for. This made support very problematic. In addition, we were using version 1.0 of the software; at the time, A/V was up to version 5 or 6.... There were also at least five separate software packages running simultaneously, none of them interfaced correctly. One for commercial audio, one for news audio, one for writing news, something else for sales, another for Internet (using "tubes"), and perhaps another system for production. Later there was also a Bloomberg terminal, also not interfaced properly. I remember once we were supposed to play a :15 promo spot for a 6pm TV newscast, which they fed Production at 5:15. It needed to play at 5:45, but at 5:43 I had to rush into the studio with a reel-to-reel tape, cue it up, and play it off that. The spot eventually found its way through the computer maze and showed up in the studio computer at 10:15pm!!! When the real ClearChannel (formerly Jacor) engineers took over at our station, they were incredulous that such crappy engineering would ever have taken place (and that the perpetrator would be allowed to escape unharmed).

AudioVault was capable of working nicely, IF the installation was done properly, with good hardware, and maintained. I found it impossible to get our A/V system to automate, and "Jim" waffled for months. The station kept going off the air (well, losing audio, anyway) overnight. After several sleepless weeks, I happened to be at the NAB convention in Orlando, and an AudioVault engineer there gave me his business card. Couple days later, I called him, e-mailed him some files, and he solved the problem in 10 minutes. No problem, but "Jim" was pissed because I hadn't gone through him (and probably the whole installation was illegal anyway...) All this made it a giant relief when we finally switched to Prophet (aka Profit) Systems about a year later.

One other anecdote: I once complained to "Jim" that the news-writing computer system crashed every half-hour or so, and had to be re-booted (often when you were on the air and it had all your copy on it). This was a lengthy process too. His response was that the darn news people typed too fast, and occasionally hit the wrong key on the keyboard, and those errors built up inside the computer until it couldn't handle them, and crashed. In an attempt at humor, I said, "Ahh, the errant keystroke buffer overload, eh?". He looked at me, chuckled, and said "Yep, that's it". Later I told that story to Paul and Manny, the ace IT guys at CC, and they laughed for weeks. It just summed it all up.
 
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