ABQTom said:
San Francisco, Fall 2007: 24-54, 6-mid. KQED 5.7 for #1 and KGO 4.3 and 5th.
Spring 1998 KQED 3.8 and KGO 4.9.
Don't tell me KQED has not grown at the exepense of KGO.
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San Francisco, Fall 2007: 24-54, 6-mid. KQED 5.7 for #1 and KGO 4.3 and 5th.
Spring 1998 KQED 3.8 and KGO 4.9.
Don't tell me KQED has not grown at the exepense of KGO.
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DavidEduardo said:
KQED is an NPR station in the Bay Area. Actually I am talking about KQKE-AM 960 there, otherwise known as "Green 960," and its new call letters are KKGN (green). It's a Clear Channel owned liberal station. Thom Hartmann has done particularly well on KKGN.
ABQTom said:
KQED covers less than half of the population of the SF MSA with a usable signal, and barely has one book under its belt. Comparing it to KGO is adburd. It has had a ground clutter 0.8 to 1.1 range in 12+ for the last three years, going nowhere. Today, it is 29th in 25-54 for the whole week with a 1.0 share. Mid-days rises to 1.3 and that is as good as it gets... 25th.
Again, there is considerable correlation between KQEDs growth and KGOs lesser numbers in 25-54. There is no correlation with whatever the calls du jour on 960 are and KGO.
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DavidEduardo said:
Why do you keep bringing up the San Francisco public radio station KQED-FM? Again, I am referring to the PROGRESSIVE TALK AM STATION in San Francisco, KQKE-AM 960, now known as KKGN-AM.
I think that this thread has gone on too long and off topic and has drifted into other topics. For every book, this same endless discussion goes on the Albuquerque board. The market is just too politically divided, just look at the Madrid/Wilson race. I think that Air America hosts and their ratings are best discussed at the news/talk board, not here.
ABQTom said:
I bring up KQED because you stated there was a relationship between KGO's audience size and KKGN. A full correlationship analysis shows there is no such relationship but there is a huge one between KGO and KQED. KKGN has not affected KGO. Ageing demos and KQED have affected KGO in 25-54.
You can go to Miami or SD or wherever there is an AA station and you will find they have little impact in the market with the exception of Portland, OR.
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Tom wrote:
Why do you keep bringing up the San Francisco public radio station KQED-FM? Again, I am referring to the PROGRESSIVE TALK AM STATION in San Francisco, KQKE-AM 960, now known as KKGN-AM.
David wrote:
"I bring up KQED because you stated there was a relationship between KGO's audience size and KKGN. A full correlationship analysis shows there is no such relationship..."
Tom wrote..
I agree. That's exactly what I was saying, that KGO ratings had not gone down, despite the Air America station KKGN (former call letters KQKE). Same thing in Monterey, KGO hasn't gone down, despite two liberal stations, KRXA, and Zwerling's K--- (Zwerling's has now changed formats).
David wrote:
"...but there is a huge one between KGO and KQED. KKGN has not affected KGO. Ageing demos and KQED have affected KGO in 25-54."
"You can go to Miami or SD or wherever there is an AA station and you will find they have little impact in the market with the exception of Portland, OR."
I agree, how about AA (Air America) KPTK AM 1090 Seattle?
On 1090, under aggressive marketing and promotions, Hartmann and Schultz got up as high as 5-6 shares M25-54...with Randi and Stephanie as high as 3-4 shares M25-54.
As I'm sure you know, for quite some time, KIRO failed to return Dave Ross to morning drive, and Allen Prell and John Proccaccino didn't do well 9A-NOON, and this helped Hartmann on 1090, when Al Franken was displaced to afternoon drive.
Why do you keep bringing up the San Francisco public radio station KQED-FM? Again, I am referring to the PROGRESSIVE TALK AM STATION in San Francisco, KQKE-AM 960, now known as KKGN-AM.
David wrote:
"I bring up KQED because you stated there was a relationship between KGO's audience size and KKGN. A full correlationship analysis shows there is no such relationship..."
Tom wrote..
I agree. That's exactly what I was saying, that KGO ratings had not gone down, despite the Air America station KKGN (former call letters KQKE). Same thing in Monterey, KGO hasn't gone down, despite two liberal stations, KRXA, and Zwerling's K--- (Zwerling's has now changed formats).
David wrote:
"...but there is a huge one between KGO and KQED. KKGN has not affected KGO. Ageing demos and KQED have affected KGO in 25-54."
"You can go to Miami or SD or wherever there is an AA station and you will find they have little impact in the market with the exception of Portland, OR."
I agree, how about AA (Air America) KPTK AM 1090 Seattle?
On 1090, under aggressive marketing and promotions, Hartmann and Schultz got up as high as 5-6 shares M25-54...with Randi and Stephanie as high as 3-4 shares M25-54.
As I'm sure you know, for quite some time, KIRO failed to return Dave Ross to morning drive, and Allen Prell and John Proccaccino didn't do well 9A-NOON, and this helped Hartmann on 1090, when Al Franken was displaced to afternoon drive.
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