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Nickelback - Formula Rock...You Decide

Demodave

Demodave

The following webpage features an MP3 mix of two Nickelback tunes. It's wild how these two songs match up so easily.

Click Here

Can you say formula rock?

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Demodave on 01/10/06 06:51 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> The following webpage features an MP3 mix of two Nickelback
> tunes. It's wild how these two songs match up so easily.
>
> Click Here
>
> Can you say formula rock?
>


Agreed, definitely. Unfortunately, both of the rock stations in my market (Monmouth/Ocean) - both Active and Alternative - play the heck out of Nickelback. The Alternative (WHTG/WBBO, G Rock Radio) has eased up on current Nickelback, but still plays their hits constantly along with other bands that I consider to be "formula rock" (3 Doors Down, Puddle Of Mudd, Fuel, etc.).</P>

Why is Nickelback so popular? Because Americans like to play it safe. They find everyday life to be challenging enough, so when it comes to music, they would prefer hearing something safe and shallow over something complex and thought-provoking. The reason why the Nickelbacks of the world will always be more popular than The Mars Volta, Porcupine Tree, and even System Of A Down, is because unlike any of those bands, they appeal to the lowest common denominator. In particular, they appeal to soccer moms, teenagers, and forklift operators - demographics that are known for embracing shallow, simplistic, and completely safe rubbish like Nickelback. These are the same groups that have made talentless hacks like Paris Hilton, Ashlee Simpson, and the Black Eyed Peas (among many others) into massive, ubiquitous celebrities. These are also the groups that seem to have the most disposible income, the people more inclined to spend their money on compact discs, movies, et al. This is why all forms of media have become so stale, bland and unchallenging - we live in a society built on greed, and playing it safe is what rakes in all the cash, so there you go.</P>

Sorry about the little rant. Once I start, it's hard to stop myself sometimes. Long story short - Nickelback is bland, unintelligent corporate rock. Period.</P>
 
Nickelback

Wait a minute. "Because AMERICANS like to play it safe"?

Americans like what they like. They like McDonald's, Coke, Wal-Mart and, apparently, Nickelback.

We're not in the education business- great radio stations reflect the tastes of their listeners and if I'm programming a station and Nickelback (or Green Day or The Beatles) are high audience demand acts, I'm playing the heck out of them.

Supply & demand is a pretty simple business concept- find out what they want, then supply it.

If you want to climb up on your high horse and teach teach taste in music, go get a job at a school or write for a music magazine. We are not in the business of telling people what WE think they SHOULD like. Duh.

> Why is Nickelback so popular? Because Americans like to play it
> safe. They find everyday life to be challenging enough, so
> when it comes to music, they would prefer hearing something
> safe and shallow over something complex and
> thought-provoking. The reason why the Nickelbacks of the
> world will always be more popular than The Mars Volta,
> Porcupine Tree, and even System Of A Down, is because unlike
> any of those bands, they appeal to the lowest common
> denominator. In particular, they appeal to soccer moms,
> teenagers, and forklift operators - demographics that are
> known for embracing shallow, simplistic, and completely safe
> rubbish like Nickelback. These are the same groups that
> have made talentless hacks like Paris Hilton, Ashlee
> Simpson, and the Black Eyed Peas (among many others) into
> massive, ubiquitous celebrities. These are also the groups
> that seem to have the most disposible income, the people
> more inclined to spend their money on compact discs, movies,
> et al. This is why all forms of media have become so stale,
> bland and unchallenging - we live in a society built on
> greed, and playing it safe is what rakes in all the cash, so
> there you go. Sorry about the little rant. Once I start,
> it's hard to stop myself sometimes. Long story short -
> Nickelback is bland, unintelligent corporate rock. Period.
>
 
> The following webpage features an MP3 mix of two Nickelback
> tunes. It's wild how these two songs match up so easily.
>
> Click Here
>
> Can you say formula rock?
>

Nickelback.......Nickelback.......Nickelback (Can I have a nickel back?)

Leader Of Men was more harder edged. Not much of a playing material.

How You Remind Me was a great song when it came out in summer 2001. Was great through 2002. Too Bad was just OK. Then Never Again which was a crappy song with a very important subject.

Then they came out with Someday. That was lame lame lame. Feelin Way Too Damn Good was better, but not much.

Now we got Photograph. BLAH.

By the way, that audio clip cracked me up.<P ID="signature">______________

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Re: Nickelback

Sure. Of course. We will rely on Arbitron the most flawless and reliable radio rating system in the world. They will tell us what people like.
 
Re: Nickelback

Sure. Of course. We will rely on Arbitron the most flawless and reliable radio rating system in the world. They will tell us what people like.
 
Re: Nickelback

>
> Supply & demand is a pretty simple business concept- find
> out what they want, then supply it.
>
> If you want to climb up on your high horse and teach teach
> taste in music, go get a job at a school or write for a
> music magazine. We are not in the business of telling
> people what WE think they SHOULD like. Duh.
>

Indeed. I get a laugh out of the music critics' year end "best of the year" lists. Loaded with stiffs and artists hardly anyone has heard of. I always figured they picked all this obscure stuff so we wouldn't know that their taste is no better than anyone else's. Heaven forbid they like something that was a hit.
 
Re: Nickelback

> >
> > Supply & demand is a pretty simple business concept- find
> > out what they want, then supply it.
> >
> > If you want to climb up on your high horse and teach teach
>
> > taste in music, go get a job at a school or write for a
> > music magazine. We are not in the business of telling
> > people what WE think they SHOULD like. Duh.
> >
>
> Indeed. I get a laugh out of the music critics' year end
> "best of the year" lists. Loaded with stiffs and artists
> hardly anyone has heard of. I always figured they picked
> all this obscure stuff so we wouldn't know that their taste
> is no better than anyone else's. Heaven forbid they like
> something that was a hit.
>


Well, come on. Do you honestly think that whatever is # 1 on the charts, whether it's Ashlee Simpson, Black Eyed Peas, or Nickelback, is going to win the accolades of critics? None of these acts could pass for legitimate artists - it's shallow, flavor-of-the-month junk-food pop. The majority of the music that makes the airwaves follows a safe, predictable formula with equally safe, predictable lyrics over it. It should come as little surprise that the critics are singing the praises of bands/artists that most people have never heard of. After all, radio is a business, and at the end of the day, they are going to choose the easy sell over the more complicated, artistic acts. That means lots of Fall Out Boy and Nickelback, and absolutely no airtime for Wolf Parade or Arcade Fire.</P>
 
> > The following webpage features an MP3 mix of two
> Nickelback
> > tunes. It's wild how these two songs match up so easily.
> >
> > Click Here
> >
> > Can you say formula rock?
> >


Agreed... And I liked the MP3, although it looks like someone has too much time on their hands.


> Nickelback.......Nickelback.......Nickelback (Can I have a
> nickel back?)

No, you can't. Formula rock for formula radio. You can't beat 'em, so you might as well join 'em. Especially if you work in radio.


> Leader Of Men was more harder edged. Not much of a playing
> material.

Lots of people play it. It was an OK song. Just like...


> How You Remind Me was a great song when it came out in
> summer 2001. Was great through 2002. Too Bad was just OK.
> Then Never Again which was a crappy song with a very
> important subject.

Ok. Agreed.

>
> Then they came out with Someday. That was lame lame lame.
> Feelin Way Too Damn Good was better, but not much.

Both of these songs were great. I still can listen to both, especially the latter, without getting a major case of preset button finger itch.

> Now we got Photograph. BLAH.

Yes, BLAH. What the hell is on Joey's head, anyway??

Am I to assume everybody thinks the new U2 crap being played incessantly on every rock station on the planet is anything other than 'formula rock'?

I think if I hear 'Vertigo' one more time, my head is going to explode. It's an awful song, with NO subject. I don't hear anyone complaining about that, though.

-A
<P ID="signature">______________
"...How can you be deaf, with ears like that??"</P>
 
Re: Nickelback - Formula Rock...You Decide - U2

> Am I to assume everybody thinks the new U2 crap being played
> incessantly on every rock station on the planet is anything
> other than 'formula rock'?
>
> I think if I hear 'Vertigo' one more time, my head is going
> to explode. It's an awful song, with NO subject. I don't
> hear anyone complaining about that, though.
>
> -A
>


You know what? Everybody could call me crazy, and I know it's not cool to shoot them down, but I'm right there with you on U2. Despite their commercial decline, the '90s were a very interesting period for U2 from a creative standpoint. However, at the turn of the millennium, U2 decided to go "back to basics" - which meant attempting to recreate The Joshua Tree, but they have yet to succeed. In fact, I think that now since they decided to retrace their footstaps, they've lost their relevance and have resigned themselves to "nostalgia act" status. However, unlike most other nostalgia acts out there, the mass media outlets foam at the mouth over their new material, playing it incessantly. It's bland, derivative, and unexciting - something I never thought I'd say about U2, until All That You Can't Leave Behind came out.</P>

Want a good laugh? Bono actually refers to "Vertigo" as "a punk rock song"! Seriously! I fell on the floor when I read that. Selling the song to Apple made the statement even funnier in retrospect.</P>
 
How You Remind Me was such a huge hit and one of those songs that you just (or at least i) never got sick of no matter how many thousands of times it was played.

As for the rest of their material.. :/
 
> > The following webpage features an MP3 mix of two
> Nickelback
> > tunes. It's wild how these two songs match up so easily.
> >
> > Click Here
> >
> > Can you say formula rock?
> >
> Agreed, definitely. Unfortunately, both of the rock
> stations in my market (Monmouth/Ocean) - both Active and
> Alternative - play the heck out of Nickelback. The
> Alternative (WHTG/WBBO, G Rock Radio) has eased up on
> current Nickelback, but still plays their hits constantly
> along with other bands that I consider to be "formula rock"
> (3 Doors Down, Puddle Of Mudd, Fuel, etc.). Why is
> Nickelback so popular? Because Americans like to play it
> safe. They find everyday life to be challenging enough, so
> when it comes to music, they would prefer hearing something
> safe and shallow over something complex and
> thought-provoking. The reason why the Nickelbacks of the
> world will always be more popular than The Mars Volta,
> Porcupine Tree, and even System Of A Down, is because unlike
> any of those bands, they appeal to the lowest common
> denominator. In particular, they appeal to soccer moms,
> teenagers, and forklift operators - demographics that are
> known for embracing shallow, simplistic, and completely safe
> rubbish like Nickelback. These are the same groups that
> have made talentless hacks like Paris Hilton, Ashlee
> Simpson, and the Black Eyed Peas (among many others) into
> massive, ubiquitous celebrities. These are also the groups
> that seem to have the most disposible income, the people
> more inclined to spend their money on compact discs, movies,
> et al. This is why all forms of media have become so stale,
> bland and unchallenging - we live in a society built on
> greed, and playing it safe is what rakes in all the cash, so
> there you go. Sorry about the little rant. Once I start,
> it's hard to stop myself sometimes. Long story short -
> Nickelback is bland, unintelligent corporate rock. Period.
>
Don't be sorry......

The sick and Ugly truth about corporate America can't be told enough....

Big Media is not going to Tell on Itself after all..... There's a line they draw, and it's the Bottom Line.... no matter what kind of "front" they expouse...

IE, all hte Rock stations that have in the logo "Rocks Harder".....

They do not---- they play tons of crap rock.... and they.... do --not-- Rock Harder.... The jusy Suck a --little-- less than the Clear Channel station, with regards to theit Music Selection.....

Tell It...<P ID="signature">______________
1968-1978 -- THE "GOLDEN AGE" OF ALBUM ROCK MUSIC . . .
In spite of Disco and Top 40 in that period,
it yielded the "Motherload" of Great Album Rock Releases
--Enough for a Lifetime-- :) :) :)</P>
 
The reason why the Nickelbacks of the
> world will always be more popular than The Mars Volta,
> Porcupine Tree, and even System Of A Down, is because unlike
> any of those bands, they appeal to the lowest common
> denominator. In particular, they appeal to soccer moms,
> teenagers, and forklift operators - demographics that are
> known for embracing shallow, simplistic, and completely safe
> rubbish like Nickelback.

I agree with your concept...but sorry System of a Down is serverly overrated. Mars Volta rocks though.
 
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