Night at KS 107.5

[rapking]

Mercedes Howard ( former weekend D J at KHTS-FM,Channel 93.3 in San Diego) take over the night show at Rhythmic CHR station KQKS-FM (KS 107.5 ) Denver CO.

 

[musicman3355]

KS 107.5 is terrible, I prefer 95.7 The Party.

 

[Word!]

KS has been horrible for years. Ive always felt bad for the market when it comes to Urban in Denver

 

[Nate Wesley]

KS has been horrible for years. Ive always felt bad for the market when it comes to Urban in Denver

Why feel bad for 'em? The Party and KS 107.5 are rhythmic stations. That's as 'urban' as they're gonna get and be viable stations in their market. Drop a clone of Atlanta's 'Hot 107.9' into that same space, and it'd be dead faster than you can say 'Ja Rule's career'.

Besides, anyone who wants true hip-hop 'depth' on Denver, CO airwaves knows to tune into 'Basementalism' each time its on KVCU 1190.

 

[Word!]

These days, no one even dares to flip to AM for music unless you're over 35 lol. At least in a major market. It's not the 80s-90s no more when you used to put aluminum foil on the antenna and try to hear the "rap" station on AM.

Some of my yunger folk (23 yrs old) asked me one time, what's that station for traffic and news and how do you change the radio to AM?

I think FM college stations would be a better choice than going Am these days.

But you're exactly right Nate. And it's a shame though, they need a WHTA in Denver. It would be fully supported too.
Wow lol

 

[musicman3355]

Unfortunately, the west coast can't get an urban station like Hot 97 NY or Hot 107.9 Atlanta. Out of all hip-hop stations in the west, only KMEL in San Francisco is the one with a heavy urban-lean. The rest down here are rhythmic-pop crossovers.

 

[Nate Wesley]

These days, no one even dares to flip to AM for music unless you're over 35 lol. At least in a major market. It's not the 80s-90s no more when you used to put aluminum foil on the antenna and try to hear the "rap" station on AM.

KVCU isn't 'the rap station on AM' (it's more like the college radio station with one particular hip-hop show), but whatever.

I think FM college stations would be a better choice than going Am these days.

I wonder if the University of Colorado knew that going in when they got 1190 from Jacor (prior to joining Clear Channel) as a donation. They shoulda held out for 103.5 instead!
/sarcasm

And it's a shame though, they need a WHTA in Denver. It would be fully supported too.

By all of 127 people.

 

[kilamanjero]

These days, no one even dares to flip to AM for music unless you're over 35 lol. At least in a major market. It's not the 80s-90s no more when you used to put aluminum foil on the antenna and try to hear the "rap" station on AM.

Some of my yunger folk (23 yrs old) asked me one time, what's that station for traffic and news and how do you change the radio to AM?

I think FM college stations would be a better choice than going Am these days.

But you're exactly right Nate. And it's a shame though, they need a WHTA in Denver. It would be fully supported too.
Wow lol

It would be possible for a more "urban-leaning" rhythmic to exist in Denver, but it would probably pull a stunt like the original KKBT "92.3 the Beat" in LA as a station that sees "No Color Lines". Such a station would have to be carefully programmed by a veteran or an expert of the rhythmic crossover format as well...

 

[Word!]

Sounds like once again everyone is scared to be straight Urban, its not a scary format! A WHTA in Denver would trump KS. This is why corporates always want to "play it safe" because they "dont think" a market would like it.

Much like in corporate restaurants, they remove food on the menu becaues they "know" what the people like.
But then get complaints when it disappears and shrug their shoulders because "corporate knows best."

 

[kilamanjero]

Sounds like once again everyone is scared to be straight Urban, its not a scary format! A WHTA in Denver would trump KS. This is why corporates always want to "play it safe" because they "dont think" a market would like it.

Much like in corporate restaurants, they remove food on the menu becaues they "know" what the people like.
But then get complaints when it disappears and shrug their shoulders because "corporate knows best."

Nope, I just think a station that sounds like the original KKBT would work well in Denver. Anyone familiar with radio history of LA knows that KKBT was a very community-oriented urban radio station, but it billed itself as a rhythmic to make money (which most for-profit operations have to do to survive). That's what WPGC in DC did for nearly 15 years as well. You have know how to work the system while accomplishing the same objective.

 

[Nate Wesley]

Sounds like once again everyone is scared to be straight Urban, its not a scary format! A WHTA in Denver would trump KS. This is why corporates always want to "play it safe" because they "dont think" a market would like it.

Much like in corporate restaurants, they remove food on the menu becaues they "know" what the people like.
But then get complaints when it disappears and shrug their shoulders because "corporate knows best."

Seriously, man...broadcasters aren't doing it by gut feeling, they're doing it with RESEARCH.

To indulge your restaurant analogy--there's a reason you can buy lattes, wraps, and now smoothies at Mickey D's. And there's also a reason you'll never be served any collard greens, black-eye peas, or 'McHamhocks', even in the deepest of the Deep South. Why? It's about RESEARCH.

You're a fool if you think any company in this current radio climate will simply take a 'throw it to the wall, see what sticks' approach like you're suggesting. A WHTA in Denver would fail horribly, plain and simple.

 

[Word!]

WHTA wouldnt if promoted and marketed right. Just corporate radio execs, the suits, the white folk that dont "get it" or "know" the format won't take the risk and don't know HOW to do it right.

Sorry Im just a believer in knowing how to make it work. There's always ways to make it work.

 

[Martin Mac]

Actually I agree with "Word!". Critics and radio experts said that U92 in Salt Lake City (a city with a very low black/hispanic population) would have to phase out all the rap in their playlist in favor for Pop when the National Rhythmic playlist started to change. And look at them, despite their lack of blacks or hispanics, this Rhythmic still leans very heavy on Rap and Urban R&B songs that most Rhythmic's avoid today because of the common belief that playing more Pop music will result in higher PPM. Even the PD of U92 claims that "our format works because we don't have people in business suits from San Antonio telling us what to play".

I know U92 is not a WHTA in any way whatsoever, however, if U92 can work in Salt Lake City, a WHTA can work in Denver. Of course, the playlist cannot EXACTLY be like WHTA, but it can work.

 

[Nate Wesley]

I know U92 is not a WHTA in any way whatsoever, however, if U92 can work in Salt Lake City, a WHTA can work in Denver. Of course, the playlist cannot EXACTLY be like WHTA, but it can work.

If U92 isn't like Hot 107.9 at all, why waste time mentioning them?

Moreover, admitting 'Denver's WHTA' can't be exactly like 'Atlanta's WHTA' pretty much reiterated my point. So what was it you were agreeing with Word about, again?

 

[Martin Mac]

It really isn't that difficult to understand if you took the time to read. The point is, if U92 was successful in Salt Lake City, against what the "researchers" said, a station similar to WHTA can work in Denver (against what the "researchers" said is the main point, please take note so that you understand this time, I definitely don't want to you to think I'm wasting even more time!) ;D

And for your "reiterated my point", that's nice, but when I say "cannot be exactly like", I mean that 3 or 4 songs on the Atlanta playlist may have to be left out if we wanted a WHTA in Denver. 3 or 4 songs is not that huge of a difference, its basically the same format. Now if you still do not know what I'm agreeing about with Word, then I'm sorry, cause I can't help ya, maybe someone else can explain to you.

 

[musicman3355]

Sure, a station like WHTA in Atlanta would work. But would it be exactly the same? No. If it were to come to Denver, it would have to be less urban and more on the CHR/Rhythmic side. Denver is not the dirty south, remember that. WHTA's urban format is made for them and is legendary in ATL.

 

[Martin Mac]

In my eyes, WHTA = something that is more Urban than KS107.5. I don't neccessarily think Dirty South music should be brought to Denver, what I think is that a station that leans more Urban than KS107.5 could be successful in Denver, and that's what I see WHTA as, a station that plays hip-hop without the pop songs of Taio Cruz, Mike Posner, Jason Derulo, Lady Gaga, etc.

 

[Nate Wesley]

And for your "reiterated my point", that's nice, but when I say "cannot be exactly like", I mean that 3 or 4 songs on the Atlanta playlist may have to be left out if we wanted a WHTA in Denver. 3 or 4 songs is not that huge of a difference, its basically the same format. Now if you still do not know what I'm agreeing about with Word, then I'm sorry, cause I can't help ya, maybe someone else can explain to you.

I compared the top 50 currents that both WHTA (Arbitron classification: Urban Contemporary) and KUUU (Arbitron classification: Rhythmic CHR) reported to Mediabase last week, August 9-15th. Here's what I found:

Spun on WHTA, not on KUUU:
Monica "Love All Over Me"
Drake "Fancy" (feat. T.I. & Swizz Beatz)
Ludacris "Sex Room" (ft. Trey Songz)
T.I. "Got Your Back" (ft. Keri Hilson)
Gucci Mane "Beat It Up" (ft. Trey Songz)
Drake "Miss Me" (ft. Lil' Wayne)
Lil' Scrappy "Bad" (ft. Stuey Rock)
Jazmine Sullivan "Holding You Down"
Trey Songz "Bottoms Up" (ft. Nicki Minaj)
Gucci Mane "Gucci Time" (ft. Swizz Beatz)
Drake "Best I Ever Had"
T.I. "I'm Back"
Yung L.A. "Ain't I" (ft. Young Dro & T.I.)
Yo Gotti "5 Star"
Trey Songz "Say Aah"
8 Ball & MJG "Bring It Back" (ft. Young Dro)
Roscoe Dash "Sexy Girl Anthem"
Ester Dean, "Drop It Low"
Lil Playboii "Make Her Mine"
Ludacris "My Chick Bad" (ft. Nicki Minaj)
Monica "Everything to Me"
Drake "I'm Goin' In" (ft. Lil' Wayne)
Travis Porter "Go Shorty Go"
DJ Khaled "All I Do Is Win" (ft. T-Pain)
Gucci Mane "Wasted" (ft. Plies)
Usher "OMG" (ft. will.i.am)
Waka Flocka Flame "O Let's Do It"
Young Money "Steady Mobbin'" (ft. Gucci Mane)
Roscoe Dash "Show Out"
Roscoe Dash "All the Way Turnt Up" (ft. Soulja Boy Tell 'Em)
Rihanna "Rude Boy"
Birdman "Money to Blow" (ft. Lil' Wayne)
Plies "Plenty Money"
Timbaland "Say Something" (ft. Drake)

Spun on KUUU, not on WHTA:
Eminem "Love the Way You Lie" (ft. Rihanna)
B.O.B. "Airplanes" (ft. Hayley Williams)
Kardinal Offishall "BodyBounce" (ft. Akon)
Bobby Brackins "143 - I Love You" (ft. Ray J)
Baby Bash "ButtaKup (Sweet Tooth)"
YG "Toot It and Boot It"
Ice Cube "I Rep That West"
T.I. "Yeah Ya Know (Takers)"
Chiddy Bang "Opposite of Adults"
New Boyz "Break My Bank" (ft. Iyaz)
Kanye West "Power" (ft. Dwele)
Taio Cruz "Dynamite"
Eminem "Not Afraid"
Jason Derulo "Ridin' Solo"
Nipsey Hussle "Feelin' Myself" (ft. Lloyd)
Sean Kingston "Letting Go (Dutty Love)"
Glasses Malone "I Get Doe"
Kid Cudi "Pursuit of Happyness" (ft. MGMT)
Katy Perry "California Gurls" (ft. Snoop Dogg)
Tech N9ne "Leave Me Alone"
Nelly "Just A Dream"
Miguel "All I Want Is You" (ft. J. Cole)
Timbaland "Carry Out" (ft. Justin Timberlake)
Kid Cudi "Erase Me" (ft. Kanye West)
Ja-Bar "Daze" (ft. Soulja Boy Tell 'Em)
Ice Cube "Hey"
Lil Wayne "Got Money" (ft. T-Pain)
Diddy & Dirty Money "Hello Good Morning" (ft. T.I.)
The Game "My Life" (ft. Lil Wayne)
Dorrough "Get Big"
Dolla "Heartbreak Collision"
Kelly Rowland "Grown Woman"
Snoop Dogg "Gangsta Luv" (ft. The Dream)

But basically the same format, right?

Right? :

 

[Nate Wesley]

In my eyes, WHTA = something that is more Urban than KS107.5. I don't neccessarily think Dirty South music should be brought to Denver, what I think is that a station that leans more Urban than KS107.5 could be successful in Denver, and that's what I see WHTA as, a station that plays hip-hop without the pop songs of Taio Cruz, Mike Posner, Jason Derulo, Lady Gaga, etc.

You forgot the *beep-beep* warning to let folks know you were backing up...

 

[Martin Mac]

^^^Lol, that made me laugh. But nah, I never did back up, cause I was never saying Dirty South should be in Denver in the first place. What I view WHTA as, a station that leans more urban then KQKS. Then that goes into what my statement was from the start, a station that leans more urban than KQKS could work in Denver IMO.

Why you took the time to go look at WHTA and KUUU, compare them, and type all of that out, I have no clue. What does the comparison of those two stations have to do with anything? If anything, you should be comparing WHTA and KQKS, then I could see the point of your argument.

So Nate Wesley, what do you think, would a station that leans more urban than KQKS work in Denver? Assuming from all of your posts I'm going to say no, but I want to know what you think. If you think that it cannot, please tell me why.