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Nine FM doesn't rank again

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I just wonder how it is a station can go this many books without getting even a .01 rating in the market???

They obviously do not care at all about their numbers, either they have a bottomless pocket of money to keep it going, or they might barely be struggling along with the few local advertisers they have.

Your thoughts?
 
Along with no ratings is the fact that Harvey Wells can't seem to keep his air talent for longer than 6 months at a stretch. When are they going to put this mule out of it's misery?
 
I second that one.. I mean a lot of people listen to Dance Factory. Why not just put it back on 24-7. Evidently there is a need for a Dance Format here in this Great City!
 
As far as I'm concerned, CBS could swap WBBM HD1 and HD2 with each other! ;D Now that the roots have sprouted for True Oldies 94.7, CBS could also replace WJMK-HD2 with an audio simulcast of 670 WSCR.

As for Nine FM... I'm surprised Fred Eychaner hasn't flipped one or all three sticks to Air America. It would most likely have a better ROI than Nine.
 
Philip J. Smith said:
As far as I'm concerned, CBS could swap WBBM HD1 and HD2 with each other! ;D Now that the roots have sprouted for True Oldies 94.7, CBS could also replace WJMK-HD2 with an audio simulcast of 670 WSCR.

As for Nine FM... I'm surprised Fred Eychaner hasn't flipped one or all three sticks to Air America. It would most likely have a better ROI than Nine.
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Absolutely Agree. 100%

If WCTP can get what it does....imagine what it could do with the addition of the three fms....full market coverage (sorta)

It would seem (to me anyway) that it could get a 2 share at least
 
Sorry! I just had to do it! It was just too juicy to pass up! buwaahaaahaa

But, seriously, something's got to give at WDEK/WKIE/WRZA. I might be one of the few listeners (maybe even the only one!) who still likes having Nine on my presets. But, my personal taste for music doesn't represent the populous any more than someone who likes zither or calliope music. Nine wouldn't even register a "dead cat bounce" if they ran hourly TV commercials.

Dance would work, but to get younger listeners to tune in, they would have to get very serious about advertising the hell out of it, in every creative way and venue possible.

With all the election chatter which will continue in the news for another 19 months, Air America would do especially well. Fred could just broker-out 850 AM, or keep it as part of a quad-cast (1 AM + 3 FM).
 
Philip J. Smith said:
Sorry! I just had to do it! It was just too juicy to pass up! buwaahaaahaa

But, seriously, something's got to give at WDEK/WKIE/WRZA. I might be one of the few listeners (maybe even the only one!) who still likes having Nine on my presets. But, my personal taste for music doesn't represent the populous any more than someone who likes zither or calliope music. Nine wouldn't even register a "dead cat bounce" if they ran hourly TV commercials.

Dance would work, but to get younger listeners to tune in, they would have to get very serious about advertising the hell out of it, in every creative way and venue possible.

With all the election chatter which will continue in the news for another 19 months, Air America would do especially well. Fred could just broker-out 850 AM, or keep it as part of a quad-cast (1 AM + 3 FM).
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Or, one idea I thought of a while back goes a little something like this:

WKIE and WKIF (that station's just wasting electricity now) could simulcast WCPT's progressive talk format. All three should adequately cover the metro area, and the two FMs allow 24 hour programming. And they could ID as 92.7 and 850. Change the call letters to WCPT and WCPD, or something like that. Simple enough.

WDEK and WRZA could remain 9FM and run on the cheap, since I assume Newsweb likes to keep it around as just a second station to sell with WCPT. Keeps the salespeople somewhat happy. Only drawback is that they lose much of the Chicago audience, but it's not as if there's much of that anyway. They get better ratings in Rockford (though not by much).

For the Saturday night dance party, just air it on all four FM signals. Hey, it brings in money, and nobody really listens to talk radio on Saturday nights anyway.

Just a little weird thinking here.
 
Hold On........ Nine needs some Bill Veck promotion... They got my resume, but I never heard back from them... This is a case of 'out of sight, out of mind'... Can't afford billboards in market three????????????????? Then you got to be "Stupid-Smart".... Dress up like queens, alligators, mojo-men, do stupid stunts and get wacked out! Remember, this was where Phil D. and Jerry S. went crazy and Oprah seems to be that way to the ladies at times..... Do stupid and fun and meaningless stuff near the Sox, Cubs, Bears, Bulls and Hawk games....Invest 10 grand on window cling-ons and say the "Cling-Ons" are coming...Straight from Uranus... Just do anything weird to get your slogan and frequencies on the streets... One station, wanting to be sooo big, that they show up in three places on your FM dial and ANYPLACE on the streets of Chicagoland.... When you have a shoestring budget, then make that shoestring the most blaring psychodelic color... PIMP those stations and get a curious public to see what happens next.. Then find which niche within the sampling likes and will stick with it...... I am ready to parachute into the Navy Pier half naked on the first day of winter! Too many 'cool' and 'hip' types in ties... Too many 'real estate types' and not enough 'radio types' left....?????? :p GONZO, without the smut..... Gallagher should have been a consultant in his heyday... Take no prisioners....... ;)
 
FightingIrish said:
Philip J. Smith said:
Sorry! I just had to do it! It was just too juicy to pass up! buwaahaaahaa

But, seriously, something's got to give at WDEK/WKIE/WRZA. I might be one of the few listeners (maybe even the only one!) who still likes having Nine on my presets. But, my personal taste for music doesn't represent the populous any more than someone who likes zither or calliope music. Nine wouldn't even register a "dead cat bounce" if they ran hourly TV commercials.

Dance would work, but to get younger listeners to tune in, they would have to get very serious about advertising the hell out of it, in every creative way and venue possible.

With all the election chatter which will continue in the news for another 19 months, Air America would do especially well. Fred could just broker-out 850 AM, or keep it as part of a quad-cast (1 AM + 3 FM).
Click to expand...

Or, one idea I thought of a while back goes a little something like this:

WKIE and WKIF (that station's just wasting electricity now) could simulcast WCPT's progressive talk format. All three should adequately cover the metro area, and the two FMs allow 24 hour programming. And they could ID as 92.7 and 850. Change the call letters to WCPT and WCPD, or something like that. Simple enough.

WDEK and WRZA could remain 9FM and run on the cheap, since I assume Newsweb likes to keep it around as just a second station to sell with WCPT. Keeps the salespeople somewhat happy. Only drawback is that they lose much of the Chicago audience, but it's not as if there's much of that anyway. They get better ratings in Rockford (though not by much).


For the Saturday night dance party, just air it on all four FM signals. Hey, it brings in money, and nobody really listens to talk radio on Saturday nights anyway.

Just a little weird thinking here.
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I'm going to comment on the 4 FM stations that Newsweb owns. Newsweb can't do a simulcast of WKIF & WRZA due to the primary contours over Kankakee County (which the FCC doesn't allow), and that was why WKIF was removed from the WKIE simulcast. WKIF is the real energy waster, with WDEK (only because it doesn't even target Dekalb, and doesn't even try to advertise to Rockford, which has secondary contour of WDEK) being second. Nine FM is mainly concentrating on advertisers in the WRZA & WKIE areas. But if Nine FM were to go, it would be nice to see them try Dance, but I doubt it would happen.
As for a simulcast of WCPT & WKIF, it would make sense in a way, to reach listeners in Kankakee & parts of Will County, but the problem is only WKIF would be a 24 hour station, leaving the northern suburbs without 24 hour liberal talk radio.
Making the suggestion of removing WKIE from the WDEK/WRZA simulcast, & make it simulcast with WKIE again could help out, but southern Cook County would be without coverage. Either way, there's a sacrifice in coverage. I believe if Nine FM were to go off the air, Newsweb might put the talk radio format on the trimulcast. As for WKIF, Newsweb needs to come up with something better than the CNN newsfeed, which serves no purpose for Kankakee County.
 
Fred definitely couldn't run the same programming on WRZA and WKIF. WKIF's entire coverage pattern represents only a subset within WRZA's coverage area.

Doesn't Newsweb also operate 1240 WSBC and 1470 WCFJ? If so, WKIF butts right up against WCFJ's coverage without much overlap (especially the nighttime coverage). Perhaps WKIF could be added to that AM duo. I would consider that a programming improvement over Headline News TV audio.
 
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