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No HD on WCBS-FM today

I couldn't get WCBS-FM in HD at all today. All other HD stations that I tried to pull in were OK. I have an Accurian radio and live only 8 miles from the transmitter.

Bruce
 
Im not getting it either at 11:37 PM Visteon receiver.Oddly I wasnt getting 95.5 HD2 which is now ok .
I heard someplace they are having antenna or transmission issues on the Empire,but that could be totally unrelated.It is next to impossible to get an HD signal compared to regular stereo here in North NJ.I hope they fix this,I miss Jack Fm on hd2.
 
According to my inside sources, CBS-FM has a serious problem. It has to do with the antenna that they share with WPLJ and that other station. Apparently, it is not tuned well for passing HD. This is obviously very disappointing and very sad. The experts at CBS are most likely looking for a way "around" the problem since my inside sources doubt that the company will allow them to spend the money they'd actually need to fix it.

It is starting to look like HD Radio might be dead now. Even the engineers at the stations that are running it are wondering if this might not be the case. Apparently, it just isn't "catching on" with the public, much to the chagrin of the HD radio cartel. There are going to be a lot of speculative investors who will be annoyed at iBiquity's CEO if he doesn't manage to take that company public. They have been on a 10+ year ride with him and all they have received so far are promises, promises, promises.

Hey Bob, it was a good gamble, but, look at what happened to the Patriots. When you cheat and try to stack the deck, you ultimately lose.

I wouldn't try to reply to or acknowledge this post. I know you all think I'm a lunatic and obviously I am, but I stand by everything I have ever said on this here message board about this topic.
 
Cal Stymes said:
According to my inside sources, CBS-FM has a serious problem. It has to do with the antenna that they share with WPLJ and that other station. Apparently, it is not tuned well for passing HD. This is obviously very disappointing and very sad. The experts at CBS are most likely looking for a way "around" the problem since my inside sources doubt that the company will allow them to spend the money they'd actually need to fix it.

It is starting to look like HD Radio might be dead now. Even the engineers at the stations that are running it are wondering if this might not be the case. Apparently, it just isn't "catching on" with the public, much to the chagrin of the HD radio cartel. There are going to be a lot of speculative investors who will be annoyed at iBiquity's CEO if he doesn't manage to take that company public. They have been on a 10+ year ride with him and all they have received so far are promises, promises, promises.

Hey Bob, it was a good gamble, but, look at what happened to the Patriots. When you cheat and try to stack the deck, you ultimately lose.

I wouldn't try to reply to or acknowledge this post. I know you all think I'm a lunatic and obviously I am, but I stand by everything I have ever said on this here message board about this topic.

Oh boy, here we go again. What a crock.

One station is experiencing problems with their TX and "It is starting to look like HD Radio might be dead now"

Do you even live in this area?

Have you ever just sat there and read what you have written, before you post it.

No matter what your agends is, I would think that embarrassment might prevent remarks such as these.

BTW: All three of WPLJ's HD streams are up as of this posting.

Lino
 
Cal Stymes said:
According to my inside sources, CBS-FM has a serious problem. It has to do with the antenna that they share with WPLJ and that other station. Apparently, it is not tuned well for passing HD. This is obviously very disappointing and very sad. The experts at CBS are most likely looking for a way "around" the problem since my inside sources doubt that the company will allow them to spend the money they'd actually need to fix it.

It is starting to look like HD Radio might be dead now. Even the engineers at the stations that are running it are wondering if this might not be the case. Apparently, it just isn't "catching on" with the public, much to the chagrin of the HD radio cartel. There are going to be a lot of speculative investors who will be annoyed at iBiquity's CEO if he doesn't manage to take that company public. They have been on a 10+ year ride with him and all they have received so far are promises, promises, promises.

Hey Bob, it was a good gamble, but, look at what happened to the Patriots. When you cheat and try to stack the deck, you ultimately lose.

I wouldn't try to reply to or acknowledge this post. I know you all think I'm a lunatic and obviously I am, but I stand by everything I have ever said on this here message board about this topic.

I have read everything you're repeated above many different times in many different places on the internet including from engineers. I don't think many here will ever believe it until their own stations drop it because they realize that there's still only 5 people listening and three of them are related to employees of the station. (and they all live within a 5 mile radius of the station they work for ;D)
 
JohnnyElectron said:
Detroit's AM's are starting to drop the HD too, including their CBS, WWJ-AM.
I've been away this week, but last week, WBBM-AM in Chicago hadn't been running HD for several days.
Even as they were running a spot mentioning HD, they weren't in HD.
 
Lino, I'm obviously a crackpot. No doubt you'll find out just how much soon.

And yes, I live in "the area" and read very carefully what I write on this here message board. :)
 
Cal Stymes said:
Lino, I'm obviously a crackpot. No doubt you'll find out just how much soon.

I hope that doesn't mean you are planning an 'Armstrong". :)

Seriously though, to imply that one station's temporary problems mean that "It is starting to look like HD Radio might be dead now", is ridiculous.

Lino
 
LinoNYC thusly replied:

I hope that doesn't mean you are planning an 'Armstrong". :)

Naw. Not me. I also don't think I invented anything.

Seriously though, to imply that one station's temporary problems mean that "It is starting to look like HD Radio might be dead now", is ridiculous.

Yes, that is ridiculous. However, it is not because CBS-FM was having a problem that I said what I said. I said what I said because my sources report that more engineers at the stations that are running HD are starting to wonder if it might not be dead because it just isn't catching on with the public. THAT is what I said in my post.

Of course, now that we know what happened at places like CBS yesterday I also stick by my statement that the experts at CBS are most likely looking for a way around the problem since it is doubtful that the company will actually spend the money they'd need to fix it.

Business isn't too good in radio these days, apparently. I thought HD was supposed to "save" it.
 
JohnnyElectron said:
Detroit's AM's are starting to drop the HD too, including their CBS, WWJ-AM.

Doesnt sound like a win-win if they shut off HD,the people who bought hd radios will be annoyed.If they dont ,the DXers will be instead... (cue the ooompa loompa music)
 
In todays world DXers hold no weight. Dxing is such a dead hobby that company's such as JRC have stopped making radios. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Dxing is a hobby, radio is a business.
 
Cal Stymes said:
R.F. Burns suggested:

Dxing is a hobby, radio is a business.

Radio is a business that is going to be "out" of business if they keep that horrible AM HD on the air!

Slick little turn-of-phrase there, but empty.

AM iboc has been on an increasing number of stations since fall 2002, it's been allowed 24hr for five months now.....where's the fortold public outcry?

No only hasn't there been any, there also has not been one instance where AM iboc has hurt (or yet helped) the ratings of any station.


Lino
 
Wouldn't it just be easier to throw a 3-bay FM antenna up for pure IBOC on the former channel 6 band on their AM stick via an isocoupler and just go with it? Why should we be stuck with such inferior technology?
 
The FCC will not allow any more spectrum for broadcast use. You're about 10 years too late to the game. Broadcasters wanted new spectrum but the commission said no.
 
R.F. Burns said:
The FCC will not allow any more spectrum for broadcast use. You're about 10 years too late to the game. Broadcasters wanted new spectrum but the commission said no.

The problem with that idea is, “you should never say never." The FCC has been up to some very strange stuff recently. If enough pressure were applied, something could be done. It would be difficult, but not impossible.

Remember, the FCC works at the whim of Congress. If enough people pressured Congress and the Commission, you might actually get something done. The problem is most of Congress seems to work at the whim of special interest groups and their lobbyists. Maybe radio isn't shouting loud enough. More likely, those who shout for radio have other interests that would be diminished by opening up more spectrum.

It's just a wild guess, but I'll bet that the same folks (posters to this board excepted) who are solidly behind IBOC are also solidly against opening up more space to accommodate a real transition to digital. If it should ever happen, it could result in a small "mom & pop" station having as good a signal as the mega broadcasters. We couldn't let that happen, so IBOC is the system we get. Sounds fishy to me.
 
"AM iboc has been on an increasing number of stations since fall 2002, it's been allowed 24hr for five months now.....where's the fortold public outcry?"

Well, that's sure an easy answer:

Stations (including AM) have, in fact, increased since Fall 2002 and receivers have been sold for two years now. "Where's the fortold public outcry?"

Only 300,000 receivers were sold last year ... up from 46,000 the year before. THAT's the outcry. People aren't buying them.

Put it this way: Do you realize that on Memorial Day weekend, you could, literally, give an HD radio to every person attending the Indianapolis 500? That's the total number of people who own HD radio today. Now, there's a perspective. And, I might add, with room to spare.
 
"Only 300,000 receivers were sold last year ... up from 46,000 the year before."


And you don't see anything significant in those numbers? That's more than a six fold increase in sales in one year and yet, you say that shows rejection?
 
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