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No One Even Noticed !!!!?????

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MisterGort

It has been a full week -- since KJUG FM went "on the air" from the ??
"supposed better than ever" transmitter site - on the lower side of Blue Ridge. No one ever noticed or posted anything on the blog. That says it all.
 
MisterGort said:
It has been a full week -- since KJUG FM went "on the air" from the ??
"supposed better than ever" transmitter site - on the lower side of Blue Ridge. No one ever noticed or posted anything on the blog. That says it all.
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I suppose outlying areas have a marginally stronger signal a little further out than it used to be. Emphasis on 'marginally', 'outaying' and 'little further' ;) lol But, building penetration in their primary target area of Tulare county is probably better.

I assume 104.9 is also working from the new site (?) a quick check seems it is a bit stronger here in Sunnyside- but could just be propagation due to an especially warm day.
 
Was there really someone who thought this was going to be a 'magic bullet".

For KCRZ it does nothing to increase building penetration in Tulare or Visalia (it actually decreases). Maybe they gain some fringe but not much.

For KJUG, it's higher Edison bill and maybe a little better building penetration.

There's a reason KJUG was built at Blue Ridge.

JO
 
Never heard of Sunnyside. just wanted to know -- your general location -- in relation to the new KJUG-FM site - to compair coverage. thanks
 
Coverage for me in Clovis is about the same, maybe an extra bar on the signal strength, I figured that new site would reach Fresno.
104.9 comes in the same with adjacent interference from 105.1 KKBZ, must not be up yet.
 
MisterGort said:
Never heard of Sunnyside. just wanted to know -- your general location -- in relation to the new KJUG-FM site - to compair coverage. thanks
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The Southeast area of Fresno. It's been known to locals as Sunnyside for 100 years. Like Fig Garden, practically it's own municipality. County Island within the city limits.
 
mofocat said:
MisterGort said:
Never heard of Sunnyside. just wanted to know -- your general location -- in relation to the new KJUG-FM site - to compair coverage. thanks
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The Southeast area of Fresno. It's been known to locals as Sunnyside for 100 years. Like Fig Garden, practically it's own municipality. County Island within the city limits.
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Fig Garden is the older area of Northwest Fresno. Also, known as such for over 100 years.
 
I noticed on Radio-locator the pattern at their new site is a directional pattern, the old site (east of Tulare) on the Valley floor was non-directional (perfect circular pattern) equal strength in all directions. I think THIS is why Fresno is not getting any attention. Check out the signal pattern on radio locator and tell me what area it is geared for the most. Not Fresno, not Sanger, but Visalia, Tulare, even Delano. Follow the red contour lines and tell me what towns are closest to the red contour lines. Huh?

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KCRZ&service=FM&status=C&hours=U
 
DanielBoone said:
I noticed on Radio-locator the pattern at their new site is a directional pattern, the old site (east of Tulare) on the Valley floor was non-directional (perfect circular pattern) equal strength in all directions. I think THIS is why Fresno is not getting any attention. Check out the signal pattern on radio locator and tell me what area it is geared for the most. Not Fresno, not Sanger, but Visalia, Tulare, even Delano. Follow the red contour lines and tell me what towns are closest to the red contour lines. Huh?

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KCRZ&service=FM&status=C&hours=U
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If 104.9 IS ON at the new site, they probably had to go directional do too interfering with 105.1 KKBZ and 104.7 KHTN, it sounds the same to me in Clovis, very weak with 105.1 bleeding over a little, the thing is 103.3 KZPO sounds better even with 103.1 KAAT being adjacent, so the question is is 104.9 on at the new site or not?
 
DanielBoone said:
According to radio-locator, the old pattern from the old site from Tulare for 104.9 KCRZ.

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KCRZ&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

I think they should of left well enough alone! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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You can't really go by the contours of the maps on Radio-locator, being that they use the FCC filed ones for Average Terrain, and is inaccurate for those stations in the mountains, wish they would use the Longley-Rice maps "TV Fool' uses for TV.
 
ExKynoJox said:
Driving along Herndon, I thought KJUG's signal was weak... As to 104.9, not listenable.

How much did they spend for this?
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In 2011 Groppetti's Momentum Broadcasting paid $1.8 million for KJUG AM and FM and KCRZ. Momentum now bills just under $2 million a year, so the price does not seem out of line.

The new facility increased the people reached in the 60 dbu contour by 50%, from just over 400,000 to just over 600,000 now.

Keep in mind that Visalia Tulare Hanford is a separate market from Fresno, so coverage in Fresno is really not going to be monetized anyway, even if it existed.
 
DavidEduardo said:
"The new facility increased the people reached in the 60 dbu contour by 50%, from just over 400,000 to just over 600,000 now."
Now, that is why it was done. Only geeks care about what happens at the fringe. The fringe is unreliable, unpredictable and not salable, usually. But when you can get a 50% population increase in the 60dbu contour! ... That's like a major upgrade. Something worth a serious consideration. Follow the arc of that 60db contour from Reedley, through Selma, Hanford and down to Delano. There's 200,000 more that now fall within that 60dbu line that is 'salable'.
 
mofocat said:
DavidEduardo said:
"The new facility increased the people reached in the 60 dbu contour by 50%, from just over 400,000 to just over 600,000 now."
Now, that is why it was done. Only geeks care about what happens at the fringe. The fringe is unreliable, unpredictable and not salable, usually. But when you can get a 50% population increase in the 60dbu contour! ... That's like a major upgrade. Something worth a serious consideration. Follow the arc of that 60db contour from Reedley, through Selma, Hanford and down to Delano. There's 200,000 more that now fall within that 60dbu line that is 'salable'.
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Not to forget better building penetration and S/N ratio within that prime target area.
 
mofocat said:
DavidEduardo said:
"The new facility increased the people reached in the 60 dbu contour by 50%, from just over 400,000 to just over 600,000 now."
Now, that is why it was done. Only geeks care about what happens at the fringe. The fringe is unreliable, unpredictable and not salable, usually. But when you can get a 50% population increase in the 60dbu contour! ... That's like a major upgrade. Something worth a serious consideration. Follow the arc of that 60db contour from Reedley, through Selma, Hanford and down to Delano. There's 200,000 more that now fall within that 60dbu line that is 'salable'.
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Bingo, happy to see someone raise this.
 
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