I'm bummed. I enjoyed the River a great deal and my office just moved to downtown Wilkes-Barre. The River down hear is complete static. I thought they were a Wilkes-Barre, Scranton station, what's the deal here? When I went to college at King's I used to have no problem getting 104.9. I guess the former owners let the transmitter go downhill over the years because I get nothing here now. BUMMER.
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NO RIVER IN DOWNTOWN WILKES-BARRE
- Thread starter dmer
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> I'm bummed. I enjoyed the River a great deal and my office
> just moved to downtown Wilkes-Barre. The River down hear is
> complete static. I thought they were a Wilkes-Barre,
> Scranton station, what's the deal here? When I went to
> college at King's I used to have no problem getting 104.9. I
> guess the former owners let the transmitter go downhill over
> the years because I get nothing here now. BUMMER.
>
Dmer,
I noticed this too a few weeks ago. I was at the CV building across from the Catholic High School doing spectrum measurements. I checked all of the local stations and WWRR was extremely weak. Bald/West Mtn. is not a great Wilkes-Barre location to begin with (too high...derates power...why Rock107 abandoned Bald) but WWRR was weaker than the other Bald/West Mtn. signals. The FLN 98.9 translator (10 watt output) had nearly the same signal strength as 104.9 on the analyzer. Most of the local translators were much stronger than 104.9. They must have antenna/transmitter problems.
Kevin
> just moved to downtown Wilkes-Barre. The River down hear is
> complete static. I thought they were a Wilkes-Barre,
> Scranton station, what's the deal here? When I went to
> college at King's I used to have no problem getting 104.9. I
> guess the former owners let the transmitter go downhill over
> the years because I get nothing here now. BUMMER.
>
Dmer,
I noticed this too a few weeks ago. I was at the CV building across from the Catholic High School doing spectrum measurements. I checked all of the local stations and WWRR was extremely weak. Bald/West Mtn. is not a great Wilkes-Barre location to begin with (too high...derates power...why Rock107 abandoned Bald) but WWRR was weaker than the other Bald/West Mtn. signals. The FLN 98.9 translator (10 watt output) had nearly the same signal strength as 104.9 on the analyzer. Most of the local translators were much stronger than 104.9. They must have antenna/transmitter problems.
Kevin
> I noticed this too a few weeks ago. I was at the CV
> building across from the Catholic High School doing spectrum
> measurements. I checked all of the local stations and WWRR
> was extremely weak. Bald/West Mtn. is not a great
> Wilkes-Barre location to begin with (too high...derates
> power...why Rock107 abandoned Bald) but WWRR was weaker than
> the other Bald/West Mtn. signals. The FLN 98.9 translator
> (10 watt output) had nearly the same signal strength as
> 104.9 on the analyzer. Most of the local translators were
> much stronger than 104.9. They must have
> antenna/transmitter problems.
>
> Kevin
>
First, The River comes in pretty well at my house in W-B. I can pick it up
with my Walkman and on any portable radios at home with no problems.
Second, the high school that was mentioned across from the CV building is Coughlin, a public school that is ran by the W-B School District. They are not catholic. This is the area where OUR Rock 107 translator stood, on top of the CV building overlooking Coughlin and Kings College.
And finally, I'll be planning to go to Philadelphia probably next month so I wonder to see if the River's signal could make it past the Bear Creek exit on the PA turnpike. I remembered coming home from NYC and hearing the Red Barons game on 104.9(when they were "The Music Station") on Route 115 in Bear Creek and their reception is great, as with any Scranton stations.
> building across from the Catholic High School doing spectrum
> measurements. I checked all of the local stations and WWRR
> was extremely weak. Bald/West Mtn. is not a great
> Wilkes-Barre location to begin with (too high...derates
> power...why Rock107 abandoned Bald) but WWRR was weaker than
> the other Bald/West Mtn. signals. The FLN 98.9 translator
> (10 watt output) had nearly the same signal strength as
> 104.9 on the analyzer. Most of the local translators were
> much stronger than 104.9. They must have
> antenna/transmitter problems.
>
> Kevin
>
First, The River comes in pretty well at my house in W-B. I can pick it up
with my Walkman and on any portable radios at home with no problems.
Second, the high school that was mentioned across from the CV building is Coughlin, a public school that is ran by the W-B School District. They are not catholic. This is the area where OUR Rock 107 translator stood, on top of the CV building overlooking Coughlin and Kings College.
And finally, I'll be planning to go to Philadelphia probably next month so I wonder to see if the River's signal could make it past the Bear Creek exit on the PA turnpike. I remembered coming home from NYC and hearing the Red Barons game on 104.9(when they were "The Music Station") on Route 115 in Bear Creek and their reception is great, as with any Scranton stations.
> > I noticed this too a few weeks ago. I was at the CV
> > building across from the Catholic High School doing
> spectrum
> > measurements. I checked all of the local stations and
> WWRR
> > was extremely weak. Bald/West Mtn. is not a great
> > Wilkes-Barre location to begin with (too high...derates
> > power...why Rock107 abandoned Bald) but WWRR was weaker
> than
> > the other Bald/West Mtn. signals. The FLN 98.9 translator
>
> > (10 watt output) had nearly the same signal strength as
> > 104.9 on the analyzer. Most of the local translators were
>
> > much stronger than 104.9. They must have
> > antenna/transmitter problems.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
>
> First, The River comes in pretty well at my house in W-B. I
> can pick it up
> with my Walkman and on any portable radios at home with no
> problems.
>
> Second, the high school that was mentioned across from the
> CV building is Coughlin, a public school that is ran by the
> W-B School District. They are not catholic. This is the area
> where OUR Rock 107 translator stood, on top of the CV
> building overlooking Coughlin and Kings College.
>
> And finally, I'll be planning to go to Philadelphia probably
> next month so I wonder to see if the River's signal could
> make it past the Bear Creek exit on the PA turnpike. I
> remembered coming home from NYC and hearing the Red Barons
> game on 104.9(when they were "The Music Station") on Route
> 115 in Bear Creek and their reception is great, as with any
> Scranton stations.
>
Tiger,
1. Sorry about the high school reference as catholic.....not an expert on WBarre area schools.
2. Is your house in Wilkes-Barre more elevated than downtown....this could effect your reception; also, things like positions of windows...type of building construction, etc. greatly change reception. The problem with stations that are very high in height with little power is that they cannot penetrate concrete-steel buildings well. They're great in cars but do poorly in at work listening in the ratings.
3. When I did measurements could have been at a time WWRR was operating on its backup transmitter....or some other case like this. Honestly...they're signal more than 11 or 12 miles away from their transmitter is somewhat marginal; if you have line of site they're good...any slight shadowing and problems arise (flutter, stereo pilot blink, etc.). The true test is a crappy radio in a block building or a crappy car radio (preferrably with a broken antenna!)...this is what most listeners listen on. I've seen research that more than half of FM listeners still generally listern in mono!
4. The reason I was doing measurements was to check on the performance of the Rock107 107.3 translator at the CV. Myself and Joe B installed this last year.
5.After your trip to Philly, let us know how the reception of WWRR is....compare it to 99.5 WUSR and 95.7 WBHD. WWRR should be better towards WBarre than WBHD as it has more power. They are located close together.
Kevin
> > building across from the Catholic High School doing
> spectrum
> > measurements. I checked all of the local stations and
> WWRR
> > was extremely weak. Bald/West Mtn. is not a great
> > Wilkes-Barre location to begin with (too high...derates
> > power...why Rock107 abandoned Bald) but WWRR was weaker
> than
> > the other Bald/West Mtn. signals. The FLN 98.9 translator
>
> > (10 watt output) had nearly the same signal strength as
> > 104.9 on the analyzer. Most of the local translators were
>
> > much stronger than 104.9. They must have
> > antenna/transmitter problems.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
>
> First, The River comes in pretty well at my house in W-B. I
> can pick it up
> with my Walkman and on any portable radios at home with no
> problems.
>
> Second, the high school that was mentioned across from the
> CV building is Coughlin, a public school that is ran by the
> W-B School District. They are not catholic. This is the area
> where OUR Rock 107 translator stood, on top of the CV
> building overlooking Coughlin and Kings College.
>
> And finally, I'll be planning to go to Philadelphia probably
> next month so I wonder to see if the River's signal could
> make it past the Bear Creek exit on the PA turnpike. I
> remembered coming home from NYC and hearing the Red Barons
> game on 104.9(when they were "The Music Station") on Route
> 115 in Bear Creek and their reception is great, as with any
> Scranton stations.
>
Tiger,
1. Sorry about the high school reference as catholic.....not an expert on WBarre area schools.
2. Is your house in Wilkes-Barre more elevated than downtown....this could effect your reception; also, things like positions of windows...type of building construction, etc. greatly change reception. The problem with stations that are very high in height with little power is that they cannot penetrate concrete-steel buildings well. They're great in cars but do poorly in at work listening in the ratings.
3. When I did measurements could have been at a time WWRR was operating on its backup transmitter....or some other case like this. Honestly...they're signal more than 11 or 12 miles away from their transmitter is somewhat marginal; if you have line of site they're good...any slight shadowing and problems arise (flutter, stereo pilot blink, etc.). The true test is a crappy radio in a block building or a crappy car radio (preferrably with a broken antenna!)...this is what most listeners listen on. I've seen research that more than half of FM listeners still generally listern in mono!
4. The reason I was doing measurements was to check on the performance of the Rock107 107.3 translator at the CV. Myself and Joe B installed this last year.
5.After your trip to Philly, let us know how the reception of WWRR is....compare it to 99.5 WUSR and 95.7 WBHD. WWRR should be better towards WBarre than WBHD as it has more power. They are located close together.
Kevin
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I live in Forty Fort and cannot get WWRR on any of the radios in my house (I have 5). In my car, it comes in fine, but I have to tune it in manually, the "seek" passes right over it.
Also, I took a little trip to The Crossings to do some Christmas Shopping and lost WWRR completely at the top of the hill in Bear Creek on 115 where you get on the Turnpike. Totally gone---not even any fade in or out.
They are becoming a possible contender in the market. I agree with another poster who said that they COULD be a real surprise success, but they ABSOLUTELY MUST address these reception issues.
Also, I took a little trip to The Crossings to do some Christmas Shopping and lost WWRR completely at the top of the hill in Bear Creek on 115 where you get on the Turnpike. Totally gone---not even any fade in or out.
They are becoming a possible contender in the market. I agree with another poster who said that they COULD be a real surprise success, but they ABSOLUTELY MUST address these reception issues.
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