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No signal again

Are there working on the tower again for channel 4, 38 44 again?? No picture at all. I'm in Rhode Island.

Thank you,
Chris
 
Are there working on the tower again for channel 4, 38 44 again?? No picture at all. I'm in Rhode Island.

They are working on it. The gin pole used previously to lower the antenna after the original failure was re-attached Wednesday. That likely placed limits on use of the lower master antenna, since it is attached next to it.

WGBH posted this on their web site:
August 15, 2012

Work is again underway on the Needham transmission tower to prepare for the re-installation of the repaired upper master antenna.

Over the next two weeks, working at a height of over 1,000 feet, the crew will be rigging the tower and positioning lifting equipment, re-installing new lines and components, and hoisting and re-installing the 50 foot long, 16,000 pound refurbished upper antenna. Once the antenna is in place and operational, the crew will then remove the two temporary antennas and de-rig the tower.

The work schedule is dynamic and can change quickly because of many factors, including weather and how long each operation takes. To minimize the time on the tower and ensure they are prepared for the antenna’s arrival, the crew will take every opportunity to advance each stage of the work as quickly as possible. Because of this, when the crew has to reduce transmitting power and/or shutdown completely, there can be little to no notice.

Between August 15 and August 30, viewers should be aware that reception will have many periods of instability, particularly during the daytime hours when the crew is actively working on the tower. However, on Wednesday, August 15, WGBX 44 moved to an auxiliary antenna, which could affect reception for some viewers 24/7 until WGBX 44 moves back to the re-installed upper master antenna, currently planned for August 24-25.

WGBH 2 will mostly remain at its current power until the upper antenna is re-installed on August 21, though occasional power reductions during the day can be expected. The antenna hoist and re-installation work will necessitate all stations to reduce power on August 21. And by August 24, we expect WGBH 2 will move from its current position on the auxiliary antenna, back to its permanent home on the bottom master antenna.

We’re sincerely grateful for the patience and understanding of all of our viewers who have been affected by the antenna failure.

August 14, 2012

As of 12:30pm on Tuesday, August 14, WGBH 2 is operating at about 35% power on the standby antenna to help protect the tower crew from exposure to dangerous RF radiation while they rig the tower for the return and hoist of the repaired upper master antenna. Channel 2 should go back to full power on the standby antenna by about 6pm on Tuesday evening.
 
I believe WYDN is now on the WBZ tower with a STA for half power operation. Does anyone know the current status of WYDN's building out their CP? I'd imagine the antenna issues stated above may have delayed the completion of that move.

Also, is WBPX still planning to exercise their CP and move to the candelabra and increase power to 1 Megawatt ERP?

Thanks!

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FYI, I was at my family's cottage this past weekend in East Wakefield NH, about 100 miles north of Boston. On Friday night, conditions were good for receiving Boston stations. I was able to get a good signal for a while on WYDN as well as WBZ and WBPX. So I guess their tower problems have been solved. Also coming in were WGBH, WHDH, WFXT and WSBK. In addition, WPRI and WNAC were coming in from Providence.

Oddly the other Boston area stations were missing. We rarely get WLVI and never get WGBX. WCVB and WMFP come in sometimes, but they trail behind the usual reception of WHDH, WBZ and WFXT, the three strongest Boston stations at the cottage. I find it also interesting that WPRI and WNAC often come in before many of the weaker Boston stations even though WPRI and WNAC are 35 miles further away and operate on VHF 12 and 13. We know that VHF signals don't seem to travel as far for digital TV as UHF signals.
 
On an (un?)related note: Has WUTF:66-27 upped their power yet?
A few days ago they seemed to suddenly decode regularly up here on the North Shore (they rarely did before), but now they seem just under threshold.
Heat and humidity seemed to vary during that time, so I don’t think it was just tropo enhancement.
 
iyiyi said:
I believe WYDN is now on the WBZ tower with a STA for half power operation. Does anyone know the current status of WYDN's building out their CP? I'd imagine the antenna issues stated above may have delayed the completion of that move.

Also, is WBPX still planning to exercise their CP and move to the candelabra and increase power to 1 Megawatt ERP?

Thanks!

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WYDN's STA was so they could operate from the Richland tower prior to the CP. They can go up at anytime.

And all bets are that WBPX is staying put. They just did a big transmitter upgrade at FM128, that included installing a whole 2nd tube in the transmitter.
 
Chris36 said:
Are there working on the tower again for channel 4, 38 44 again?? No picture at all. I'm in Rhode Island.

Thank you,
Chris
This afternoon, the antenna could be seen back at the top of the tower, leaning slightly off vertical, supported by the gin pole and rigging. Tonight at around 8 PM, it was vertical, but not surprisingly, the gin pole appeared to be still present.

They appear to be very close to returning all signals completely to normal.
 
Jeff, at your house in New Hampshire, it's amazing that you receive WPRI and WNAC from Providence, even though they are on RF chs 13 and 12 and transmit from Rehoboth, MA. By chance, have you ever received WJAR (RF 51) and WLNE (RF 49) which also transmit from the same tower in Rehoboth? I doubt you would ever receive WSBE (RF 21) because it's only at 50 kw power from the same tower; and WLWC (RF 22) is further out in Freetown.
 
Uncle Kaimbridge said:
On an (un?)related note: Has WUTF:66-27 upped their power yet?
A few days ago they seemed to suddenly decode regularly up here on the North Shore (they rarely did before), but now they seem just under threshold.
Heat and humidity seemed to vary during that time, so I don’t think it was just tropo enhancement.
I don't know, but when I put on 27, it automaticly jumps to 66. (I have a Magnavox Converter Box) No Cable
 
Uncle Kaimbridge said:
On an (un?)related note: Has WUTF:66-27 upped their power yet?
A few days ago they seemed to suddenly decode regularly up here on the North Shore (they rarely did before), but now they seem just under threshold.
Heat and humidity seemed to vary during that time, so I don’t think it was just tropo enhancement.

It appears that WUTF upgraded. The station has been very consistent with a more powerful signal since you noticed it. Definitely not trop!

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@alg2468

>>>At your house in New Hampshire, it's amazing that you receive WPRI and WNAC from Providence, even though they are on RF chs 13 and 12 and transmit from Rehoboth, MA. By chance, have you ever received WJAR (RF 51) and WLNE (RF 49) which also transmit from the same tower in Rehoboth? I doubt you would ever receive WSBE (RF 21) because it's only at 50 kw power from the same tower; and WLWC (RF 22) is further out in Freetown. <<<

Back in analog days, I'd get WJAR 10 a few times a month when conditions were right. That was when WCBB 10 Augusta was off the air overnight. When WCBB signed on at 7am, that was it for WJAR, although sometimes in the early morning WJAR would overpower WCBB for an hour or two. And also sometimes analog WPRI 12 would come in. With a 24 hour 6 in Portland, I never got WLNE 6 in analog days. I got WNAC 64 once or twice.

But since the digital switchover, WPRI and WNAC are the only Providence stations that come in, and as I remarked, they sometimes can be seen when some Boston stations are not coming in. I checked out Rehoboth MA on a map, where the antenna is, and that's a good 40 miles south of Boston, making it 140 miles from the cottage.

The cottage is at lake level with an antenna on the roof. I sometimes wonder if we were up on one of the hills nearby if we'd get Boston 24/7. We only get Boston stations at night till 8 or 9am, I'd say about 60% of the time. WMUR 9 Manchester used to come in almost all the time, before and after the digital switchover. But something happened this year that they've become unreliable, only viewable 20% of the time. And unlike the Boston stations, it seems to have nothing to do with day or night. They might come in at 4pm and be gone at 4am. WHDH, WBZ and WFXT are now more reliable, nights and mornings, than WMUR is, even though WMUR is about 60 miles away, instead of 100 for the Boston stations.

Never the less, the digital switchover has been good at the cottage for the most part. In analog days, we'd only get NBC 6 Portland and PBS 11 Durham with good pictures. ABC 8, ABC 9 and Pax/Ion 21 were shadowed or snowy and CBS 13 was just barely watchable. Now we get very good reception on NBC 6, ABC 8, PBS 11, CBS 13 and Ion 21 most of the time, although with digital, you really have to adjust the rooftop antenna with its electric rotator just right for ABC 8 and Ion 21. If you're off a few inches, the signal really goes downhill. Same for when the Boston and Providence signals come in at night.
 
The repaired antenna has been re-installed - and with some additional work still to be completed - should be fully operational on Friday. From the WGBH web site:
Wednesday, August 22, 2012

The project to re-install the upper master antenna has been progressing quickly. The repaired antenna was successfully re-installed atop the Needham transmission tower on Monday, August 20.

With the revised schedule, we now expect WGBH 2 to move back to its permanent home on the lower master antenna sometime on Wednesday, August 22. Work will continue on Wednesday and Thursday to install additional components, remove lifting equipment, and move WGBX 44, and commercial stations WBZ, WCVB, and WSBK, back to the repaired upper master antenna.

Then, during the early morning hours from about 1am to 5am on Friday, Aug. 24, there will be a full shutdown of all stations on the tower for final tuning and testing of the antenna and lines. Viewers who watch us over-the-air, as well as on some distant cable systems, will lose all television service from us during that overnight testing period.

It is our hope that during the day on Friday, August 24, normal broadcast transmissions will be fully and permanently restored.

We're grateful for your continued patience and support.
 
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