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NOLA Mayor's Response Plan...

> It doesn't get any clearer than this folks. The first
> responders in action:
>
http://> news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015
>
I think you posted the wrong address, this is a pic of school buses under water.
Anways, this is still just one of at least a million snapshots that can show the devistation. It's just absolutely mind boggling.<P ID="signature">______________
"You can't be tippy toeing, up in here, wooooooo!"
Terry Tate - office linebacker</P>
 
> > It doesn't get any clearer than this folks. The first
> > responders in action:
> >
> http://>
> news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015
>
> >
> I think you posted the wrong address, this is a pic of
> school buses under water.
> Anways, this is still just one of at least a million
> snapshots that can show the devistation. It's just
> absolutely mind boggling.
>

I thought that was the point. The plan was to bus evacuees out of the area, and those sure look like the buses.
 
> It doesn't get any clearer than this folks. The first
> responders in action:
>
http://> news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015
>

Nice attempt at obfuscation, Mr. Rove. The fact is that the flood came in Monday night before anyone could react to the storm that had left only hours earlier. You can't bus people out when the bus drivers are themselves fighting for their lives and their families lives.

To make the extrapolation that somehow Mayor Nagin was at fault because his buses were innundated as he did nothing is akin to my extrapolation that just because you CAN post doesn't mean you SHOULD post.

Try again...
 
> > It doesn't get any clearer than this folks. The first
> > responders in action:
> >
> http://>
> news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015
>
> >
>
> Nice attempt at obfuscation, Mr. Rove. The fact is that the
> flood came in Monday night before anyone could react to the
> storm that had left only hours earlier. You can't bus people
> out when the bus drivers are themselves fighting for their
> lives and their families lives.
>
> To make the extrapolation that somehow Mayor Nagin was at
> fault because his buses were innundated as he did nothing is
> akin to my extrapolation that just because you CAN post
> doesn't mean you SHOULD post.
>
> Try again...
>


Hmmmm.... CAT 5 strom approaching a CAT 3 city. 3 days of warning before levee is breached. 2000 buses never used and now under water on Tuesday.

Governor of Louisana never calls for Louisana National Guard.

Keep talking Einstein...
 
> > It doesn't get any clearer than this folks. The first
> > responders in action:
> >
> http://>
> news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015
>
> >
>
> Nice attempt at obfuscation, Mr. Rove. The fact is that the
> flood came in Monday night before anyone could react to the
> storm that had left only hours earlier. You can't bus people
> out when the bus drivers are themselves fighting for their
> lives and their families lives.
>
> To make the extrapolation that somehow Mayor Nagin was at
> fault because his buses were innundated as he did nothing is
> akin to my extrapolation that just because you CAN post
> doesn't mean you SHOULD post.
>
> Try again...
>

Son, please go away.........

G
 
What's wrong with you guys ?...

> > > It doesn't get any clearer than this folks. The first
> > > responders in action:


> > >
>
> I thought that was the point. The plan was to bus evacuees
> out of the area, and those sure look like the buses.



I don't know what you guys are looking at, but I see a fleet of busses that are submerged in water to their engines. I don't know if bussing people anywhere in those busses is an option.

There is enough blame to cover everyone in this mess. The mayor, the governor, FEMA, Homeland Security and even the White House. Maybe it's time to check your obvious political agenda at the door and start worrying about the people who are blameless.....the victims.
 
Re: What's wrong with you guys ?...

> > > > It doesn't get any clearer than this folks. The first
>
> > > > responders in action:
>
>
> > > >
> >
> > I thought that was the point. The plan was to bus evacuees
>
> > out of the area, and those sure look like the buses.
>
>
>
> I don't know what you guys are looking at, but I see a fleet
> of busses that are submerged in water to their engines. I
> don't know if bussing people anywhere in those busses is an
> option.
>

I am pretty sure those buses were not under water Saturday thru Monday.
 
> > It doesn't get any clearer than this folks. The first
> > responders in action:
> >
> http://>
> news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015
>
> >
>
> Nice attempt at obfuscation, Mr. Rove. The fact is that the
> flood came in Monday night before anyone could react to the
> storm that had left only hours earlier. You can't bus people
> out when the bus drivers are themselves fighting for their
> lives and their families lives.
>
> To make the extrapolation that somehow Mayor Nagin was at
> fault because his buses were innundated as he did nothing is
> akin to my extrapolation that just because you CAN post
> doesn't mean you SHOULD post.
>
> Try again...
>
Actually. . .both Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco are both at fault along with FEMA:

1. Both knew on August 24th that an apparent Category 5 hurricane would strike the Gulf coast, with New Orleans being particulary vulnerable. That is five days of lead time. . .plenty of time to get the wheels of government grinding,

2. The Mayor could have stockpiled bottled water, food and supplies like disposable diapers at the Superdome and the Convention Center if they were to be temporary evacuation centers. Neither location had stockpiles of supplies,

3. They Mayor could have begun evacuation before August 29th using mass transit facilities of the city, school busses and even coaches,

4. The Governor could have called out the National Guard on August 24th tyo begin having a 'boots on the ground' presence in New Orleans and the other affected parishes. Instead, she waited until the levees breached to make a move,

5. The Governor could have instructed the National Guard to construct tent cities near their bases north of New Orleans and the affected parishes so evacuees would be re-located to somewhere within the state. Instead, no tent cities were set up and to date none have been established,

6. The Mayor could have asked for and the Governor could have sent satellite phones, radio equipment and other communications gear to New Orleans and the affected parishes so communications could remain intact after the standard systems went down,

7. FEMA could have coordinated delivery of supplies to New Orleans and the affected parishes instead of turning back supplies being sent there,

8. FEMA could have acquired federal assets including generators, food, water, disposable diapers and other items and had them delivered to coordinated evacuation centers. While I am a northerner, even I understand that a city in a bowl faces unique challenges and risks from a category 5 hurricane. If I, a simple country radio announcer, understand that. . .it is not unreasonable to expect Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff. . .FEMA Director Brown. . .Governor Blanco. . .and Mayor Nagin to understand that and to act in a pro-active manner.

Meanwhile, you folks have endured incredible hardship and suffering when it could have been eased with a little foresight. You have endured the unspeakable and in these dire circumstances, you have done it with a fair amount of grace.

Please know that a lot of us up north have spent time on our knees for you and consider it an honor to contribute to the organizations working to bring relief to you, our fellow Americans.
 
>
> Son, please go away.........
>
> G


Thank you, mother, but...this ain't your board and you have added zip to the conversation other than a general whinyness. Ick!

Try again...
 
Re: What's wrong with you guys ?...

> I don't know what you guys are looking at, but I see a fleet
> of busses that are submerged in water to their engines. I
> don't know if bussing people anywhere in those busses is an
> option.

The correct word is "busing" or "buses"; "bussing" means the act of kissing..."busses" means the kisses themselves.

> There is enough blame to cover everyone in this mess...even the
> White House.
>

My city was destroyed while this White House dithered; George Bush can "buss" my butt.
 
Re: What's wrong with you guys ?...

>
> My city was destroyed while this White House dithered;
> George Bush can "buss" my butt.
>

valkyrie777:

I hope you spent all that time correcting my typo so as to set up your "Buss my butt" line. It was a very clever one.
But, if you were just pointing out a typo, you must get a life.

Also, I hope my post didn't indicate that I was trying to excuse the behavior of the White House in this matter, to the contrary. I think the failures on every level were breath taking. Our Boy says he's not going to play the "blame game".....as he points the finger at the Mayor and the Governor.
And, by the way, it's not a game.
 
Re: What's wrong with you guys ?...

>
> My city was destroyed while this White House dithered;
> George Bush can "buss" my butt.
>

Buuush, Buuuush, Buuush.... you'd think he was your omnipresent God or something.

From a CNN INTERVIEW:

In a harried, fast-moving interview with
CNN’s Soledad O’Brien this morning, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin had many
words of praise for President Bush, while pointing much blame at
Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco:

N=NAGIN
O=OBRIEN

N>> The president looked at me. I think he was a little surprised. He
said, no, you guys stay here. We're going to another section of the
plane and we're going to make a decision. He called me in that office
after that and he said, Mr. Mayor, I offered two options to the
governor. I said -- I don't remember exactly what -- two options. I was
ready to move today. The governor said she needed 24 hours to make a
decision.

O>> You told me the president told you the governor said she needed 24
hours to make a decision?

N>> Yes.

O>> Regarding what? Bringing troops?

N>> Whatever they had discussed. As far as what the -- I was advocating
a clear chain of command. So that we could get resources flowing in the
right places.

O>> The governor said no?

N>> She said she needed 24 hours to make a decision. It would have been
great if we could of left air force one, walked outside, and told the
world that we had this all worked out. It didn't happen. And more people
died.
 
> >
> > Son, please go away.........
> >
> > G
>
>
> Thank you, mother, but...this ain't your board and you have
> added zip to the conversation other than a general
> whinyness. Ick!
>
> Try again...
>

This "isn't" your board as well, and you've added things to the conversation? Spare me.

Fact is, your posts, primarily on the Houston board, show you are merely a troublemaker, a board troll. Your incoherent rants only go further to that point.

You want us to "pity" you as an 8th generation New Orlenian. Sorry, I can only have so much pity for someone filled with such vitriol & poor manners as yourself. And yes, feel free to blame Bush for someone putting you in your rightful place.

I tried & succeeded. Now run along & go play in some traffic.

G
 
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