Non-Com Music Formats should be illegal.

[edbeckdotcom]

Whether you are all Christian-pop, Jazz, AAA,
or any eclectic or religious, ethnic, or otherwise
programming 24 hours of music on your non-commercial
or university station, the practice of formatting your station
with continuous music is voilating several lines in the Regulations.

Provisions only allow that your station be of a non-commercial or educational purpose. Playing music 24/7 as a 'format' is construed as serving a commercial purpose. Even if there aren't any commercials. If there is no originating source for educational purpose or short-form programs of instructional, informational, or educational purposes, (including religious intruction, information) or if the station doesn not serve any public affairs needs,then the radio station is operating illegally.

Also, non commercial and educational stations are regulated
as such that underwritten sponsorships, breaks for NPR
news and such 'may not interrupt' programming. The key word is 'interrupt' Therefore the 'music' must not be interrupted by any means of announcements
as described in the Communications Act of 1934. Since there must
be a natural break for station identification, an ID must also air.
Since the programming of a 'music-only' format is supposed to be continuous by the mere definition of 'station format', then no break could exisit on a non commercial or educational station. This can only be summarized as such that
no non-commercial station or educational station whether in the reserved babd or not may not simulate the sound or signature of any commercial radio station.

Attention non-coms, music back to back with station ID's or liners is a violation, station names other than your call-sign are supposedly a violation
as well. Drop your music formats, take out your slogans, liners & promos or be fined! This is what's coming down the pike, and a rude awakening for many decent non-com stations around the country. The partial information above was supplied to me by an unnamed source and is submitting it to the FCC and is seriously being conisdered to be enforced.


ed

 

[Tom_Desmond]

> Provisions only allow that your station be of a
> non-commercial or educational purpose. Playing music 24/7 as
> a 'format' is construed as serving a commercial purpose.
> Even if there aren't any commercials. If there is no
> originating source for educational purpose or short-form
> programs of instructional, informational, or educational
> purposes, (including religious intruction, information) or
> if the station doesn not serve any public affairs needs,then
> the radio station is operating illegally.

I don't think this is true. If the station is being used as a "training ground" for students (at a high school or college station), then the educational requirement would be met regardless of the actual programming.

> Also, non commercial and educational stations are regulated
> as such that underwritten sponsorships, breaks for NPR
> news and such 'may not interrupt' programming. The key word
> is 'interrupt' Therefore the 'music' must not be interrupted
> by any means of announcements
> as described in the Communications Act of 1934.

This is one interpretation, but other views are reasonable. It could just as easily be argued that each individual song is a "program" for the purpose of this particular rule. But even if that argument isn't used, if a station interrupts the music for some other programming element (a public service announcement, weather, news, educational short feature, etc) and then runs an underwriting announcement, then the rule would clearly be met.

> This is what's coming down the
> pike, and a rude awakening for many decent non-com stations
> around the country. The partial information above was
> supplied to me by an unnamed source and is submitting it to
> the FCC and is seriously being conisdered to be enforced.

I'll believe it when it happens. Enforcing such a bizarre rule would hurt large numbers of university and school-district owned stations, as well as nailing a bunch of non-commercial religious outlets. I would expect that in the unlikely event that this actually happens we'd see some interesting court challenges result.

 

[jegrant]

> I'll believe it when it happens. Enforcing such a bizarre
> rule would hurt large numbers of university and
> school-district owned stations, as well as nailing a bunch
> of non-commercial religious outlets. I would expect that in
> the unlikely event that this actually happens we'd see some
> interesting court challenges result.

I agree. On the issue of all-music formats at NCE-licensed stations, I'd say that the genie is out of the bottle. If the FCC really wanted to force a more stringent definition of non-commercial / educational, they would have done it by now.

Also, would these supposed new enforcement actions invalidate the numerous NCEs operating with Main Studio Waivers? How educational can a station be if it's merely plugged into a national satellite feed? Furthermore, I think it's misleading at best, and disingenuous at worst, for national NCE station groups to somehow have virtually unlimited funds available for the purpose of acquiring more stations, but hardly any money at all to equip existing stations with local studios and local programming.

There ought to be a rule stating that any licensee holding a Main Studio Waiver who seeks to acquire another license should be required to either:
A. Turn the MSW in, and operate a studio within the COL.
OR
B. operate a studio within the same Nielsen DMA, with 1 studio being sufficient to meet the requirement for all stations in the same DMA
OR
C. prove that there is at least one other station with the same COL that meets either A or B above, and that there is no community need for a second locally originated service.

FWIW, I am not convinced this would impact as many stations as some would believe, because surely breaks for things like NPR News or even "Gospel Spots" type of 30 to 60 second ministries would count as programming.
And I don't quite understand the contention that such things "break format" which is somehow illegal. If short-form programming IS legal but it must not interrupt any other programming, that sounds a lot like the new KYOU podcast-based format. And I'm not sure that format is ready to go national yet.

 

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[Slinky]

> Provisions only allow that your station be of a
> non-commercial or educational purpose. Playing music 24/7 as
> a 'format' is construed as serving a commercial purpose.
> Even if there aren't any commercials. If there is no
> originating source for educational purpose or short-form
> programs of instructional, informational, or educational
> purposes, (including religious intruction, information) or
> if the station doesn not serve any public affairs needs,then
> the radio station is operating illegally.

False.

47 CFR Sec. 73.503(b): Each station may transmit programs directed to specific schools in a system or systems for use in connection with the regular courses as well as routine and administrative material pertaining thereto and may transmit educational, cultural, and entertainment programs to the public.

As you can see, entertainment programming is specifically allowed by FCC code.

> Also, non commercial and educational stations are regulated
> as such that underwritten sponsorships, breaks for NPR
> news and such 'may not interrupt' programming. The key word
> is 'interrupt' Therefore the 'music' must not be interrupted
> by any means of announcements
> as described in the Communications Act of 1934. Since there
> must
> be a natural break for station identification, an ID must
> also air.
> Since the programming of a 'music-only' format is supposed
> to be continuous by the mere definition of 'station format',
> then no break could exisit on a non commercial or
> educational station. This can only be summarized as such
> that
> no non-commercial station or educational station whether in
> the reserved babd or not may not simulate the sound or
> signature of any commercial radio station.

Station IDs are not announcements. The section of the FCC code you're looking at specifically deals with announcements of support by for-profit companies. It doesn't address NPR News or other programming elements.

You're reading the code out of context and making false assumptions about what constitutes "regular programming". Show me where the FCC defines "regular programming" as music 24 hours a day on a music station and you may have a point.

Until then, a station is free to break up it's programming into segments and air announcements of support between them.

> Attention non-coms, music back to back with station ID's or
> liners is a violation, station names other than your
> call-sign are supposedly a violation
> as well. Drop your music formats, take out your slogans,
> liners & promos or be fined! This is what's coming down the
> pike, and a rude awakening for many decent non-com stations
> around the country. The partial information above was
> supplied to me by an unnamed source and is submitting it to
> the FCC and is seriously being conisdered to be enforced.

It would go against years of FCC precedent. If one person is currently submitting this to the FCC, I doubt it's being "seriously" considered.

 

[radiomike]

This is all pretty much a rant, from the same guy that wants to air commercials on the non-commercial band. All of these assertions are false or way out of context. Music formats are fine for non-commercial stations and legal. Also, for a music show, what is the break in the program? How about THE END OF A SONG?
Non-commercial stations serve a purpose and benefit by being non-commercial in many ways commercial stations do not. It also goes the other way, thus the limitations on non-commercial stations.

 

[edbeckdotcom]

> Listen, This is not a rant, this is a letter that I and several other
Non-Coms got as certified mail talking about this policy being enforced and to be prepared to change the way music is programmed on NCE's. There includes
text that stated that music programming was not the intention outlined in the 1934 Regulations.

 

[edbeckdotcom]

Yes, it says entertainment programs. Not to be construed as long-form programming as in music formatting.

 

[edbeckdotcom]

Tom, you're the only one who got it right. Training for students is
acceptable, assuming that students would be playing music to 'learn' radio.
This is different from satellite-fed signals of religious music, as one example.

 

[radiomike]

Um, being the GM of a non-commercial station, this is hogwash. In addition, if this was a policy change, you would also see it as a notice or release on the Commission website. Care to provide a link to a website that has this letter?
In addition, the Commission is out of the programming business. Has been for a long, long, time.

> Non-Coms got as certified mail talking about this policy
> being enforced and to be prepared to change the way music is
> programmed on NCE's. There includes
> text that stated that music programming was not the
> intention outlined in the 1934 Regulations.

 

[edbeckdotcom]

It would be a double-edged sword as well, since the mission statement from this legal team states that "...music-only formats constitute a 'commercial' venture since they simulate commercial music-only stations; while using identification for their stations other than their call signs and include station liners and other forms of station identification that mimic commercial stations....",

another statement says the following

"...the interruption of any program for announcements or acknowledgement of sponsorships, membership support, or any recorded or live statements thanking an individual or company for remuneration is prohibited on the Reserved FM Band, and other NCE stations. Therefore, there announcement breaks within music-only formats other than for station identification is therefore prohibited.

this three-page letter sums up 5 points in what 'they' would like the FCC to enforce with all non-commercial stations.

1. Stations revert to using only assigned call letters for hourly station identification. NO trade names or slogans used that mimic commercial stations,
"i.e., KISS-FM,"

2. No NCE station shall adopt a 'format' of music or long-form programming derived to simulate a commercial station of spoken-word, talk, news, or music.
NCE stations should feature a variety of programming or devote great portions of programming for scholastic educational or cultural/religious educational purposes. Public access to airwaves for opinion and response shall be offered on a regular basis.

3. Future applications for all university or scholastic NCE's shall not exceed the coverage necessary to blanket the licensee's campus grounds plus a one mile radius.

4. NCE translators must be identified hourly on the primary FM signal. All NCE's regardless of Class, shall perform all regulated EAS weekly and monthly tests. Legal ID's for NCE's attatched to colleges and universities shall include the name of the institution following the COL announcement.

5. Licenses shall be granted annualy for all NCE stations.



The rules would certainly diminish the value of NCE programming on many
stations, I can only think of a few whom it wouldn't affect. LEt's hope
it doesn't happen.
-ee

 

[edbeckdotcom]

This letter is going to be presented to the FCC, it is a certified letter i received and went to approximately 70 stations, some I've never heard of.

There is no link on the FCC site I'm aware of. The text comes from a legal
team who apparently thinks that the FCC DID set out a philosophy as to what
NCE stations should be programming, as outlines in the Act of 1934. Why
would they be sending this to me?

 

[edbeckdotcom]

> I agree with that. Let's hope sensibility prevails! Everyone in the 'above' says this is 'hogwash' but who would be willing to do anything about it if a decsion went in favor of these supposed changes?...the answer is "no one".


-ee

 

[clichemoth]

> Whether you are all Christian-pop, Jazz, AAA,
> or any eclectic or religious, ethnic, or otherwise
> programming 24 hours of music on your non-commercial
> or university station, the practice of formatting your
> station
> with continuous music is voilating several lines in the
> Regulations.
>
> Provisions only allow that your station be of a
> non-commercial or educational purpose. Playing music 24/7 as
> a 'format' is construed as serving a commercial purpose.

I'd agree with this if the station was nothing more than an automated jukebox. . . But I've never heard any non-comm being just that. They all seem to have some form of public affairs or instructional programming. Whether some of them have enough of it to really be in the spirit of the rules may be a subject for debate, but they're not illegal.


> Even if there aren't any commercials. If there is no
> originating source for educational purpose or short-form
> programs of instructional, informational, or educational
> purposes, (including religious intruction, information) or
> if the station doesn not serve any public affairs needs,then
> the radio station is operating illegally.

I don't disagree with that at all. Stations should originate at least some of their own local instructional programming. I haven't heard any non-commercial station that didn't do this, however.

>
> Also, non commercial and educational stations are regulated
> as such that underwritten sponsorships, breaks for NPR
> news and such 'may not interrupt' programming. The key word
> is 'interrupt' Therefore the 'music' must not be interrupted
> by any means of announcements
> as described in the Communications Act of 1934. Since there
> must
> be a natural break for station identification, an ID must
> also air.
> Since the programming of a 'music-only' format is supposed
> to be continuous by the mere definition of 'station format',
> then no break could exisit on a non commercial or
> educational station. This can only be summarized as such
> that
> no non-commercial station or educational station whether in
> the reserved babd or not may not simulate the sound or
> signature of any commercial radio station.

The end of a song constitutes a break, just as it does in commercial radio.


>
> Attention non-coms, music back to back with station ID's or
> liners is a violation, station names other than your
> call-sign are supposedly a violation
> as well.

Er? Someone should tell that to every <insert state or region> Public Radio, then. If this were the case, such names wouldn't even exist. I call shenanigans unless you have a regulatory cite backed by case law.


Drop your music formats, take out your slogans,
> liners & promos or be fined! This is what's coming down the
> pike, and a rude awakening for many decent non-com stations
> around the country.

Many? Try all. That's why I can't believe it, unless it's a plot to kill off non-commercial radio once and for all, which I'm sure some wouldn't mind doing. Including yourself, and you run one, I think . . .

The partial information above was
> supplied to me by an unnamed source and is submitting it to
> the FCC and is seriously being conisdered to be enforced.

Oh, so it's not a regulation yet. Does this unnamed source happen to be you? Or someone at a enormous broadcasting company? I can't see this actually passing, even in the current climate. The big religious networks would see that it got kiboshed ASAP.



>
>
> ed
>

 

[clichemoth]

> It would be a double-edged sword as well, since the mission
> statement from this legal team states that "...music-only
> formats constitute a 'commercial' venture since they
> simulate commercial music-only stations; while using
> identification for their stations other than their call
> signs and include station liners and other forms of station
> identification that mimic commercial stations....",
>
> another statement says the following
>
> "...the interruption of any program for announcements or
> acknowledgement of sponsorships, membership support, or any
> recorded or live statements thanking an individual or
> company for remuneration is prohibited on the Reserved FM
> Band, and other NCE stations. Therefore, there announcement
> breaks within music-only formats other than for station
> identification is therefore prohibited.
>
> this three-page letter sums up 5 points in what 'they'

'they' = 'the voices'

would
> like the FCC to enforce with all non-commercial stations.
>
> 1. Stations revert to using only assigned call letters for
> hourly station identification. NO trade names or slogans
> used that mimic commercial stations,
> "i.e., KISS-FM,"

Well, then "[xxx] Public Radio" wouldn't count, since that is reserved for non-comm stations (OK, and XM, who really shouldn't be using it). But what about "Radio Free [xxx]", which has a longstanding tradition of being used by the VOA and independent non-comms, but has now been co-opted by CC for their Akron libtalker?


>
> 2. No NCE station shall adopt a 'format' of music or
> long-form programming derived to simulate a commercial
> station of spoken-word, talk, news, or music.

In short, this would allow them to broadcast precisely nothing but a carrier tone. Oh, wait, commercial stations also have carrier tones, they can't broadcast that, either.



> NCE stations should feature a variety of programming or
> devote great portions of programming for scholastic
> educational or cultural/religious educational purposes.

Well, commercial stations can carry religious/cultural programming, and many do. So that's out.

What 'they' seem to be suggesting is 24/7 instructional programming similar to what PBS once did (and I imagine still does in some places) in the day. While I'm sure some people would be keen on running "Algebra III" or "Causes of the Punic Wars", it's not going to be used as an in-classroom instructional tool as PBS was then and would therefore be completely pointless.

> Public access to airwaves for opinion and response shall be
> offered on a regular basis.

But wouldn't that be a call-in program, which is forbidden because commercial stations do them? Or Podcast radio, which KYOU got to first?

>
> 3. Future applications for all university or scholastic
> NCE's shall not exceed the coverage necessary to blanket the
> licensee's campus grounds plus a one mile radius.

Gee, why don't they just use carrier current or cable and avoid the fuss of applications and such? In fact, are there any new scholastic applications out there? I think most institutions have already chosen those modes of transmission.

>
> 4. NCE translators must be identified hourly on the primary
> FM signal. All NCE's regardless of Class, shall perform all
> regulated EAS weekly and monthly tests. Legal ID's for NCE's
> attatched to colleges and universities shall include the
> name of the institution following the COL announcement.

Nothing to disagree with there. In fact, the EAS thing is an excellent idea.

>
> 5. Licenses shall be granted annualy for all NCE stations.
>
>
>
> The rules would certainly diminish the value of NCE
> programming on many
> stations, I can only think of a few whom it wouldn't affect.
> LEt's hope
> it doesn't happen.
> -ee

OK, you're against it. . . That makes a lot more sense.


>

 

[markwooldridge]

Sounds like an anti-K-Love proposal...

Or for that matter any non-comm religious station with a large number of relay transmitters.

> this three-page letter sums up 5 points in what 'they' would
> like the FCC to enforce with all non-commercial stations.
>
> 1. Stations revert to using only assigned call letters for
> hourly station identification. NO trade names or slogans
> used that mimic commercial stations,
> "i.e., KISS-FM,"

A TOTH ID can simply consist of call sign and city of license. A station can use anything it wants to identify itself the rest of the hour.

> 2. No NCE station shall adopt a 'format' of music or
> long-form programming derived to simulate a commercial
> station of spoken-word, talk, news, or music.
> NCE stations should feature a variety of programming or
> devote great portions of programming for scholastic
> educational or cultural/religious educational purposes.
> Public access to airwaves for opinion and response shall be
> offered on a regular basis.

Religious broadcasters will argue that their music is educational and instructional. The message is in the music, so they say. But if this is viewed in this strict way then K-Love would have to completely change its output, adopt more speech.


> 3. Future applications for all university or scholastic
> NCE's shall not exceed the coverage necessary to blanket the
> licensee's campus grounds plus a one mile radius.

And what about institutions like the University of Phoenix which is an Internet university? Do they get to cover the USA by default?


> 4. NCE translators must be identified hourly on the primary
> FM signal. All NCE's regardless of Class, shall perform all
> regulated EAS weekly and monthly tests. Legal ID's for NCE's
> attatched to colleges and universities shall include the
> name of the institution following the COL announcement.

No problem with the EAS tests; AFAIK the NCE's around here do that anyway. Inserting the name of the educational institution is no big deal either; WNAA and WSOE I know already do this. WUNC used to do this. It would be cumbersome on them but possible for the license to be registered to a trust of WUNC rather than the trustees of UNC Chapel Hill.

However there is an issue with identifying translators on a primary FM signal. Take K-Love - many "primary" FM signals and many relay transmitters. Would each of these main stations be considered a translator or a primary signal? WUNC identify their three stations at the top of the hour, but they are all primary stations and not licensed as translators. If the rules were interpretered in such a way that K-Love were to have one primary signal and many many translators then it'd take them ages to list all their stations.


> 5. Licenses shall be granted annualy for all NCE stations.

With the current way that licenses are granted (presently essentially being "rubber stamped") all this does is increase paperwork for the FCC and the individual stations concerned. This would increase the FCC's workload and as such would mean that for no extra revenue the FCC would have even more work to do. It's not cost effective, doesn't provide the stability stations need to exist, and anyone in their right mind at the FCC wouldn't go with this.

Personally, I think all licenses should be reviewed every 7 years, with commercial licenses having some kind of competitive tendering process (not necessarily linked to money) - and existing non-commercial entities getting their license reviewed every 7 years but not having to bid for it again unless the FCC decrees that they have not been serving the public interest and then it'd be put up for a competitive tendering process without money. However this is just my view.

>
> The rules would certainly diminish the value of NCE
> programming on many
> stations, I can only think of a few whom it wouldn't affect.
> LEt's hope
> it doesn't happen.
> -ee
>

Mark.

 

[clichemoth]

Re: Sounds like an anti-K-Love proposal...

> > 3. Future applications for all university or scholastic
> > NCE's shall not exceed the coverage necessary to blanket
> the
> > licensee's campus grounds plus a one mile radius.
>
> And what about institutions like the University of Phoenix
> which is an Internet university? Do they get to cover the
> USA by default?

Hhhhmmmm, you have something there. Distance Bible schools would probably jump at the chance to merge with these networks. . . Hey, doesn't Moody already operate both an online school and a radio network? They're already good.

>
>
> > 4. NCE translators must be identified hourly on the
> primary
> > FM signal. All NCE's regardless of Class, shall perform
> all
> > regulated EAS weekly and monthly tests. Legal ID's for
> NCE's
> > attatched to colleges and universities shall include the
> > name of the institution following the COL announcement.
>
>
> No problem with the EAS tests; AFAIK the NCE's around here
> do that anyway. Inserting the name of the educational
> institution is no big deal either; WNAA and WSOE I know
> already do this. WUNC used to do this. It would be
> cumbersome on them but possible for the license to be
> registered to a trust of WUNC rather than the trustees of
> UNC Chapel Hill.
>
> However there is an issue with identifying translators on a
> primary FM signal. Take K-Love - many "primary" FM signals
> and many relay transmitters. Would each of these main
> stations be considered a translator or a primary signal?

They would have to list the primary station and each translator that repeats that station. Also, before K-Love/Air1 upgraded their equipment, they used to do exactly what he describes here, and it was a really, really long ID, like 5 minutes. Nothing new for them. . .

 

[edbeckdotcom]

I emailed the attorney's about some of the details, I didn't get a reply. I'm assuming that when it comes to talk formats. They are opposed to running FM-Talk formats, like Leykis or Stern on Non-Coms, programs that are similar in nature, and they want to eliminate the all-jukebox all the time formats..which is a 1/2 good idea. Stations have to automate occasionally like what I have to do just to stay on the air. We always have a volunteer no more than 5 minutes away in case of emergency announcements.

They are taking a rule and stretching the meaning of it. Just because you have a 24/7 music format doesn't mean that you are interrupting programming just because you have to thank Monster-dot-com.??!! at a 00:30 break. That's crazy

I think the proposals are nuts and are an attempt to ruin the good programming on many Non-Com stations.

 

[XL]

What's That Smell?

> > I agree with that. Let's hope sensibility prevails!
> Everyone in the 'above' says this is 'hogwash' but who would
> be willing to do anything about it if a decsion went in
> favor of these supposed changes?...the answer is "no one".

Oooohhheeey. It's this entire thread.

What you are proposing will never happen. Keep on dreaming. And keep some extra sets of sheets handy, too. This whole thread is hogwash. Yeah, c'mon Ed...I can't wait to hear what "brilliant" response you have on since you're the only one who "gets it." Don't forget to put on your blinders.

In case it flew over your head, the above statement was overflowing with sarcasm.

Sounds like someone is threatened by a non-comm doing a music format that is no longer served on the commercial band -- as the non-comms right to do. What's the matter, Ed -- a non-comm kicking your butt?

 

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> Whether you are all Christian-pop, Jazz, AAA,
> or any eclectic or religious, ethnic, or otherwise
> programming 24 hours of music on your non-commercial
> or university station, the practice of formatting your
> station
> with continuous music is voilating several lines in the
> Regulations.
>
> Provisions only allow that your station be of a
> non-commercial or educational purpose.

Key word is or. Nice try.

> Playing music 24/7 as
> a 'format' is construed as serving a commercial purpose.

Legal documentation to prove it. Oh...you can't. Shut it!

> Even if there aren't any commercials. If there is no
> originating source for educational purpose or short-form
> programs of instructional, informational, or educational
> purposes, (including religious intruction, information) or
> if the station doesn not serve any public affairs needs,then
> the radio station is operating illegally.

Back up legal citings of this, please AND stations that are not doing that. Or stuff it.

> Also, non commercial and educational stations are regulated
> as such that underwritten sponsorships, breaks for NPR
> news and such 'may not interrupt' programming. The key word
> is 'interrupt' Therefore the 'music' must not be interrupted
> by any means of announcements
> as described in the Communications Act of 1934. Since there
> must
> be a natural break for station identification, an ID must
> also air.
> Since the programming of a 'music-only' format is supposed
> to be continuous by the mere definition of 'station format',
> then no break could exisit on a non commercial or
> educational station. This can only be summarized as such
> that
> no non-commercial station or educational station whether in
> the reserved babd or not may not simulate the sound or
> signature of any commercial radio station.

Do you breath on your own or does a machine do it for you? I have a hard time believing you can handle such a task by yourself.

Please give us proof that any non-comm out there is interrupting music to read an underwriting announcement. Your argument would also fall into the laps of commercial broadcasters.

> Attention non-coms, music back to back with station ID's or
> liners is a violation, station names other than your
> call-sign are supposedly a violation
> as well. Drop your music formats, take out your slogans,
> liners & promos or be fined! This is what's coming down the
> pike, and a rude awakening for many decent non-com stations
> around the country. The partial information above was
> supplied to me by an unnamed source and is submitting it to
> the FCC and is seriously being conisdered to be enforced.

Yeah, I'd like to see you pull that off there Ed. You're a crybaby. Shut it.

If everyone wants to see what Ed's issues and agenda is, just look at his posts on the Non-Comm board. He's ticked off because he's running a little matchstick and can't compete with the big boys like WNYC.

Waaaahhhhh Eddie needs a bottle....waaaahhhhhh.