WUMD 89.3 Darmouth, fringe signal gets up to Quincy allegedly
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North Shore 104.9 signal upgrade..
- Thread starter Mattcatlover456
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Racoon, WUMD does not make it into Brockton because of a pirate. One Brockton pirate is trying to set up shop at 98.7FM. It is not right that I could hear with static "Big City" 101.3 FM , almost 30 miles south of Boston while sitting at the supermarket. Also, could hear WBOQ at the same spot with some static.
Aaron, using an Ingsigna portable HD FM radio at home and around town, WKLB is the one station can get HD to lock 100% of the time. Second best is WGBH Near my home WBZ-FM, WJMN-FM , WSNE-FM , and WHJY-FM locks in fairly well. greater than 50% lock on WODS-FM, WZLX-FM, WBUR-FM. Occasional lock on WXKS-FM, WBMX-FM,WMJX-FM,WROR-FM. No lock on WEEI-FM , WCRB-FM and WERS-FM.
Aaron, using an Ingsigna portable HD FM radio at home and around town, WKLB is the one station can get HD to lock 100% of the time. Second best is WGBH Near my home WBZ-FM, WJMN-FM , WSNE-FM , and WHJY-FM locks in fairly well. greater than 50% lock on WODS-FM, WZLX-FM, WBUR-FM. Occasional lock on WXKS-FM, WBMX-FM,WMJX-FM,WROR-FM. No lock on WEEI-FM , WCRB-FM and WERS-FM.
raccoonradio said:
Yes, a very weak fringe of WUMD gets up to parts of the Boston area (especially south) when not covered up by pirates. The very weak fringe of WUMD is acceptable to second adjacent WGBH (and WERS), but they have not permitted anything transmitting on 89.3 from within the Boston metro area.
Does anyone know for sure that WBOQ has shut down its old transmitter site for good? Could they have switched on the new site, decided that some more work was needed, and (temporarily) switched back to the old site? I live in Arlington Heights, which is "behind" both the old and new WBOQ patterns, and I am unsure about whether the signal is better, worse, or unchanged from what I used to get. (WBOQ used to be good here, but if I drove down Belmont Hill toward Belmont Center, WRBB would start to override WBOQ as I approached the Center.) I have not tried the driving test since the alleged switch to the new site, but up here near the top of the Hill, WBOQ is still fine on my car radio (stock Delphi radio in 2002 Chevrolet Prizm). On my CC Radio Plus inside the house, I have had to change the WBOQ button from 104.9 to 104.85 to escape the wicked splatter from 105.1. Slightly mis-tuning WBOQ probably introduces a little distortion into WBOQ's audio, but I'd have to be an audiophile to be bothered by it. On my Tivoli Audio Kloss Model I table radio, WBOQ is hopeless but I have no recollection of what the signal was like before the switch on that radio. I wonder if I iever tried to pull in WBOQ on the Model I before the switch.
Fybush today has a quote from the WBOQ press release: "“The station’s move may not be its last as the station still has the ability for another upgrade with approval from the FCC and cooperation of another New England broadcaster that would give WBOQ one of the largest FM signals in the Boston radio market.”
Scott points out that the xmtr move probably still means they won't be heard "very well south of Rt 128"
>>It’s not hard to guess who that other “New England broadcaster” might be – in addition to owning WWLI on the first-adjacent channel, Cumulus also owns WXLO (104.5 Fitchburg) on the second-adjacent, and those are two of the three signals that would need to be downgraded to move WBOQ all the way south into Boston with a significant power boost.
It would take some doing and it "seems unlikely" as he says, etc. but who knows, perhaps someone would
buy WBOQ and try to make such a move possible (Cumulus, no stations in area now?). Remote but sometimes
with co-operation from diff. parties it could happen..
Scott points out that the xmtr move probably still means they won't be heard "very well south of Rt 128"
>>It’s not hard to guess who that other “New England broadcaster” might be – in addition to owning WWLI on the first-adjacent channel, Cumulus also owns WXLO (104.5 Fitchburg) on the second-adjacent, and those are two of the three signals that would need to be downgraded to move WBOQ all the way south into Boston with a significant power boost.
It would take some doing and it "seems unlikely" as he says, etc. but who knows, perhaps someone would
buy WBOQ and try to make such a move possible (Cumulus, no stations in area now?). Remote but sometimes
with co-operation from diff. parties it could happen..
raccoonradio said:
I guess the third station that would have to be downgraded (not including unprotected Class D WRBB, which, after years of wrangling, would probably wind up on 101.3) would be 104.7 in Orleans. Scott didn't mention that station by name and I don't know who owns it, but, unlike WWLI and WXLO, which Scott did name, it is not owned by Cumulus.
Yes and given the fact that Class D's aren't protected (as has been said before) he didn't mean WRBB I would guess. 101.3 home for 'RBB would displace a pirate that does reach the North Shore at times
http://www.myspace.com/bigcityfm#!
And discussion from here, 2008
http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,90464.msg689386.html
>>(Eli) It's the most powerful Boston pirate signal. It can be heard beyond Route 128. It's a mono signal with very heavy audio compression and a bass-heavy EQ.
http://www.myspace.com/bigcityfm#!
And discussion from here, 2008
http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,90464.msg689386.html
>>(Eli) It's the most powerful Boston pirate signal. It can be heard beyond Route 128. It's a mono signal with very heavy audio compression and a bass-heavy EQ.
LPFM's are allocated based on minimum distances. The required distance for an LPFM from a Class B1 (like WUMD) on co-channel is 87km. That means no LPFM on 89.3 could be located south of roughly Everett.
Also, and this is more important, the minimum distance from second-adjacent channels WERS and WGBH would preclude any LPFM on 89.3 as well. IN THEORY a waiver could be requested if you could co-locate the LPFM at the second adjacent site; in such a situation, since you are colocated you know that the LPFM will always be a given amount of dB below the other station, and given the ERP difference, you can make a case that it will always be below the -20dB threshold below which no radio should have perceived interference to the main station from the LPFM.
Problem is, WERS and WGBH aren't at the same location. So you can't co-locate for both, although you MIGHT make a claim that if you co-locate with WGBH, the LPFM's tiny 100dBu interfering contour will not exceed WGBH's giant 115dBu blanketing contour. Since co-location is required with WGBH anyways (in this example) then the blanketing contour "hides" any interfering contour from the LPFM towards WERS.
Unfortunately, this won't fly because, again, the minimum distance to WUMD precludes it. Also because neither Emerson College nor WGBH is going to entertain a second adjacent waiver request. Not without a lot of cash thrown at them...far more cash than any LPFM applicant can afford.
They’ve been with a dead carrier since at least midnight, and still are (as of 8:10am).
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