NOV PPMs

[xmusicmatt]

WCOL #1 .. Kudos to them! Not shocking...

WXMG 106.3 keeps holding on despite it's weak signal! Goes to show if you program a format with a loyal following they will listen to you despite the static!

WODC has slipped some over the last few periods.. I am sure they will have a nice rebound though with the Christ-Mix on right now.

Not a good month for Rock type formats... With the exception of QFM 96.. The Blitz, The Brew and CD102.5 saw drops.

K 95.5 dropped below 2... Not surprising since it's pretty much an automated Country station now with a syndicated morning show.. My concern with the flip to Christmas is the few country P1s left who don't like Christmas or POP are going to flock to WCLT or WCOL with WCOL's rise to #1 I wonder how many of those P1's are from WHOK (While I know the Christmas wasn't a factor in this book) the fact over the last few months K95.5's become a shell of what it once was has to play a role in the drop...

Whatever short term gain from Christmas may will have hurt their Country share.. we won't know for a few books though (got Dec and Holidays to get past first).

 

[Nu_Roo_2]

Wow...if WJKR can manage a 2.1 when it only existed for the first half of the ratings month before Salem pulled the rug out and slapped on consevatalk...Jack must have had an eye-popping performance in its last two weeks.  With 103.9 at a 0.3 (!), and WCGX and WHOK still at a 2 or below...well, I'm beginning to think Adult Hits may be back soon.  If so it would be foolhardy not to act quickly, before all of the attention the format started attracting in Jack's final days totally fades away.

 

[dawg4life]

Well if Wilks really is going to flip formats on K95 then Jack would make perfect sense for them IMO. They could sell it easily along with QFM and they would still have their Country outlet at 107.1.

 

[jakej]

Sorry guys, but the election was held earlier this month, and the old, tired ideas lost.
Get hip to the new -- http://wcrsfm.org/content/yesterdays-top-secrets-yts-386-nov30! And then after listening to it, tell me why it doesn't deserve a single solitary commercial chance, after virtually everything else has already been tried here by someone in this market. And re-tried. And re-tried and re-tried and re-tried.

WXMG 106.3 keeps holding on despite it's weak signal! Goes to show if you program a format with a loyal following they will listen to you despite the static!

Exactly.

 

[KFodor]

Sorry guys, but the election was held earlier this month, and the old, tired ideas lost.
Get hip to the new -- http://wcrsfm.org/content/yesterdays-top-secrets-yts-386-nov30! And then after listening to it, tell me why it doesn't deserve a single solitary commercial chance, after virtually everything else has already been tried here by someone in this market. And re-tried. And re-tried and re-tried and re-tried.

WXMG 106.3 keeps holding on despite it's weak signal! Goes to show if you program a format with a loyal following they will listen to you despite the static!

Exactly.

So, Jake...what are your numbers? Do you show up in the book?

 

[jakej]

Did you listen to the show, Jason? Because if not, I'm not going to bother responding to you.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Sorry guys, but the election was held earlier this month, and the old, tired ideas lost.
Get hip to the new -- http://wcrsfm.org/content/yesterdays-top-secrets-yts-386-nov30! And then after listening to it, tell me why it doesn't deserve a single solitary commercial chance, after virtually everything else has already been tried here by someone in this market. And re-tried. And re-tried and re-tried and re-tried.

When I don't recognize half those songs, that's a problem. Programming a station for one person's taste never works.... that's a fundamental understanding of programming.

 

[KFodor]

Did you listen to the show, Jason? Because if not, I'm not going to bother responding to you.

Jake...I don't care whether you respond or not. Most of the real programmers on these boards respect your desire to be "different", but know those ideas don't work in practice. Your show is an acquired taste to an audience that has that taste. Whether you care or not, it doesn't equate to additional occasions of listening, which is how you get ratings.

What teaches you this? Real experience and getting your butt handed to you in the ratings when you try something that doesn't work in practice...something you have never done. I, and a lot of other programmers here...have.

Granted, you don't need ratings on an LP-FM, which is why I always encouraged you in that area.
But to suggest that the election was a reason to consider your programming ideas commercially, not so...I still, though, wish you well in your endeavors.

 

[markbohach]

Did you listen to the show, Jason? Because if not, I'm not going to bother responding to you.

I still, though, wish you well in your endeavors.

If I had a dollar for each time I saw these words on the bulletin board memo after a PD or DJ was blown out (for not living
up to ratings) I'd be rich err...well I'd have a crisp double sawbuck at least in my pocket...

As Mama Carlson once said to Andy Travis- "if not...you're luncheon meat...nothing personal...just business.

 

[jakej]

When I don't recognize half those songs, that's a problem.

Did you recognize half those artists (such as the Rolling Stones, Gordon Lightfoot, Elvis Costello, Neil Young, and Tommy James and the Shondells)? And if so, does that count for anything? And do you think that many people would be interested in hearing more from each of those artists than just the same one or two selections played over and over again, which is all that Adult Hits offers them? And what about my episode's underlying days-of-the-week theme, and the way that tunes like "Stormy Monday", "Tiffany Tuesday", and "Half of Wednesday" supported that theme in a way that some might have even considered to be somewhat entertaining -- didn't you enjoy the way that everything worked together and fell into place? I mean, you DID listen to the show, right, mxyzptik?

Your show is an acquired taste to an audience that has that taste. Whether you care or not, it doesn't equate to additional occasions of listening, which is how you get ratings.

What it equates to, Jason, is what xmusicmatt posted about 106.3's continued strong ratings: "If you program a format with a loyal following they will listen to you despite the static." Both static on the air, and static from guys like you!

What teaches you this? Real experience and getting your butt handed to you in the ratings when you try something that doesn't work in practice...something you have never done. I, and a lot of other programmers here...have.

I'm sorry, Jason, but I think you're living in the past, and that world simply doesn't exist anymore. Millions have given up on your idea of what commercial radio must be and have gleefully made the switch to satellite radio, internet radio, and everything else that's now available out there. They're not at the mercy of guys like you anymore, and they couldn't be happier.

I still, though, wish you well in your endeavors.

If I had a dollar for each time I saw these words on the bulletin board memo after a PD or DJ was blown out (for not living
up to ratings) I'd be rich err...well I'd have a crisp double sawbuck at least in my pocket...

As Mama Carlson once said to Andy Travis- "if not...you're luncheon meat...nothing personal...just business.

Yeah, and my response is hey, it's going to be you who needs the best of luck, not me -- and then I watch as some of the stations that these know-it-alls are in charge of drop all the way down to 0.1, 0.2, and 0.3 in the ratings.

 

[del_griffith]

Jake: I love your passion and commitment. I don't know if your approach is going to pay off.

Your best bet is to find some underwriting sponsors and broker the time somewhere. Use the Shawn Ireland model. I believe she brokers her TVN program. In this day and age, it's difficult to say no to money on the table and for a palatable product. From there, it may be easier to launch something into syndication. It may bloom in some smaller markets, initially.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Did you recognize half those artists (such as the Rolling Stones, Gordon Lightfoot, Elvis Costello, Neil Young, and Tommy James and the Shondells)? And if so, does that count for anything? And do you think that many people would be interested in hearing more from each of those artists than just the same one or two selections played over and over again, which is all that Adult Hits offers them? And what about my episode's underlying days-of-the-week theme, and the way that tunes like "Stormy Monday", "Tiffany Tuesday", and "Half of Wednesday" supported that theme in a way that some might have even considered to be somewhat entertaining -- didn't you enjoy the way that everything worked together and fell into place? I mean, you DID listen to the show, right, mxyzptik?

Actually, it doesn't count that the artists are known. If it's not something recognizable (unless a new song), the audience will move on. There are also reasons why those songs didn't chart to begin with. Not that I don't appreciate the deeper cuts on my albums but only the die-hard fans stay for that.

You have a passion and I can appreciate that, it's just not going to be viable on a big stick. We are talking terrestrial radio here, not satellite or internet. Any terrestrial station that takes a departure from the mainstream suffers ratings and revenue consequences; WWCD is able to live with it, others aren't.

 

[gabigley1]

Sorry guys, but the election was held earlier this month, and the old, tired ideas lost.
Get hip to the new -- http://wcrsfm.org/content/yesterdays-top-secrets-yts-386-nov30! And then after listening to it, tell me why it doesn't deserve a single solitary commercial chance, after virtually everything else has already been tried here by someone in this market. And re-tried. And re-tried and re-tried and re-tried.

WXMG 106.3 keeps holding on despite it's weak signal! Goes to show if you program a format with a loyal following they will listen to you despite the static!

Exactly.

CC Columbus let John Boy Crenshaw go over at CC Columbus today. You mentioned before he considered your ideas for programing the CC Columbus station(s). This would have been six or seven years ago.

 

[jakej]

Yes, and of all the people in commercial radio who I was in contact with from 2000 through 2008, Mr. Crenshaw was the one who treated me the nicest. When I arrived he promptly came up, introduced himself, and gave me a tour of the facility. He then heard my full 30-minute presentation and asked me questions for another half hour. At the time, 106.7 was about to be moved from Marion to Columbus, and he was open to ideas as to how best the signal could be used here.
I don't look for anything to now be any better at Clear Channel without him. In fact, I'm confident that things will get much worse. People should see this outfit for what it is and stop listening to its stations.