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Nova Mess, Part One from the Tucson Observer blog
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Wow, sounds like some real hypocrites! I'd say they were limousine liberals, but more like Hyundai Hypocrites.
Seriously, it seems like every liberal radio attempt is so shabby, and they always try to blame it on them eeeeeevil republicans.
Seriously, it seems like every liberal radio attempt is so shabby, and they always try to blame it on them eeeeeevil republicans.
No disrespect intended--and I'm very sincere about that--but this gentleman appears to be someone who may have very limited life skills. If I followed the story correctly, he was unemployed and living on SSI when he left Wisconsin on the advice of a talk show "caller" (not even the host--rather, a caller) and moved to Arizona on the basis of a verbal promise of air time from a "producer." (At KPHX? Can we say "board op")?
Okay, let's see a show of hands out there. How many of you would move halfway across the country on the recommendation of a talk show "caller," and an undocumented (nothing in writing) offer--not of employment, but of... uh, something... from a board-op? Again, if I'm reading this right, when he did eventually attempt to interact with someone at management level, they basically said "Huh?"
As messed up as Nova M & its Phoenix operation may have been, I don't know if this one should be layed at their doorstep. We've all fielded phone calls like this, or had these guys come up to us at remotes... but it doesn't make us responsible for them.
Okay, let's see a show of hands out there. How many of you would move halfway across the country on the recommendation of a talk show "caller," and an undocumented (nothing in writing) offer--not of employment, but of... uh, something... from a board-op? Again, if I'm reading this right, when he did eventually attempt to interact with someone at management level, they basically said "Huh?"
As messed up as Nova M & its Phoenix operation may have been, I don't know if this one should be layed at their doorstep. We've all fielded phone calls like this, or had these guys come up to us at remotes... but it doesn't make us responsible for them.
jackandcoke said:
...sorry, but you didn't. The claims of a paid position were made by a member of the station administration and a then-new program host...
landtuna said:
Yeah, but I needed the illiteration, no good matches for Yugo.
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This article is well written. But be careful what you believe. I happen to know what was going on at Nova M, and believe me, there is more to this story that the writer is either unable to recognize or unwilling to admit. 'Nuff said.
landtuna said:
...it's a good city. It doesn't have the neon glare of a town the size of Phoenix -- no knock on Phoenix, mind you, Cincinnati has the same problem and I loathe that municipality, WKRP notwithstanding -- and no Joe Arpaio or Andy Thomas to worry about. And the average fold around here are noticeably more relaxed, perhaps or perhaps not as a result of what I just mentioned. Now if Tucson can just figure out how to keep the Diamondbacks and Rockies from moving their spring training camps out of the city---...
What an idiot!
Ultimajock said:
Mr. MacKenzie, I certainly don't wish you any ill will. I did go back and re-read the story, and it does not appear as though you talked directly with anyone in a position of authority. It appears as though you spoke to Malloy's producer. Radio talk show producers may indeed be employees, but are rarely--if ever--considered members of the "station administration," if by that you mean "management." Your contact was just the guy who turns the knobs.
It does not sound like a specific offer was made for any specific amount of money. That is a critical issue.
So, please accept this idea for future consideration. Before accepting any offer of employment, make certain that the person making it is in a position to make such an offer. Make certain that the terms are agreeable to you. And get it in writing.
Given that you did not take any of these common precautions, it appears as though you let a big talking nobody mislead you into thinking there was something of substance where there was none.
Not a happy story, to be sure. But not the story you've written.
I happen to know that Mr.Mackenzie was "given" a 30 minute block of what is brokered time on the weekends at KPHX. And we all know that on many AM talkers weekend programming is brokered. Mr.Mackenzie should have sold the Ad time that he controlled during his 30 minute program. The 30 minutes he did not have to pay for. The same applied to Sarge, he was given a show Unrepoted News, it was 60 minutes and the hour was paid for by U-Haul and he still had control of the Ad time, at least he did trade out for a full set of Dentures, I remember him talking about that. But Mr.Mackenzie sounds upset that he could not take advantage of what was given to him. It's a shame cause I did hear his show a few times it was good stuff.
jackandcoke said:
...Mike Malloy's producer is his wife Kathy Bay, who is not even mentioned in the piece...
The Progressive One said:
...the program position I was given was identified to me by a Nova M administrator as being a *paid* position, and Nova M refused to pay me. Why is that so hard for some of you to comprehend?...
Ultimajock said:
Did you get the offer in writing? If not, then it isn't worth the paper is wasn't written on. Verbal agreements aren't legally binding in Arizona, unlike other states, including Illinois (not sure about Wisconsin).
Basically, if you receive a job offer and you don't have a piece of paper signed by both parties (you and Nova M in this case), it s**ks to be you, and there is probably nothing you can do about it. If you don't believe me, ask one William V. Bidwill about his verbal agreement to have a football stadium built for him in 1988. He thought it was a binding agreement. Newsflash!!!!!! No such thing as a verbal contract in AZ.
Ultimajock said:
As I understood it, your 30 minute block of time was your "Payment" and your selloing of the Ad Time would have been your income. Also I recall you talking about the fact that yopur U-Haul Truck to Phoenix from Wisconsin was provided to you at no charge. It seems that you wasted an nice oppurtunity that was handed to you. But lets see if you can answer this, aside from the 30 minute show of yours on Brokered time that was given to you did you do anything else for the station that you feel you should have recieved additional compensation for?? Any Production Work?? Did you run the board on weekends or even know how to. Please tell us all that you did more than your show and that's why you feel slighted. I did some checking and it seems that a brokered hour at Nova M or second thought media is $650.00 per hour which makes your half hour worth at least $300.00 per week. How many minutes did you have to sell during that half an hour? I think the bottom line is that you were given something of value and did not take advantage of it and instead wanted to get paid on top of it all. And you call yourself a Radio Person and don't know how things work on AM Talkers. Ultimajock? NOT
The article clearly states that several 1480 KPHX / NOVA-M staffers, including the program director Jeff Farias, said that it would be a paying position.
The real issue here is the horrible Chicago-style corruption at NOVA-M initiated by the Drobnys, who tried to run a network in Arizona FROM Chicago. They were in a supervisory role at the time of the hiring of King Daevid. They failed to pay several employees, as Daevid was not the only one who wasn't paid. I've heard this whole story before, elsewhere, from another ex-NOVA-M individual.
The Drobnys fired several staffers along with CEO John A. Manzo in September, 2008. Since then, the ad revenues and list of web sponsors have gone way down, Randi Rhodes is gone, and the rumor is out there that Mike Malloy is about to go (I have no idea). And, somebody owes the owner of 1190 $2,250,000 for the 1190 signal.
And, earlier this month, John Manzo filed a lawsuit against the Drobnys, because they didn't pay him severance after his firing. The Drobnys even went so far as to file complaints with the FBI against Manzo. They are corrupt people from the Chicago.
The Drobnys would be well advised to start their next radio venture in Chicago, never in Arizona, and Dr. Mike Newcomb would be advised to pack his stethoscope and microphones and start a station in Boulder or Albuquerque. Phoenix is WAAAAYY to conservative for far-left talkers Rhodes, Miller, and Malloy.
Manzo Lawsuit Link. This really shows the corruption of the Drobnys. I feel sorry for Daevid and everyone else who suffered due to their presence within the great state of Arizona.
With Attorney Jonathan Van O'Steen, son of the very famous Atty. Van O'Steen who went all the way to the Supreme Court to make it possible for attorneys to advertise ON THE RADIO, the Drobnys will be paying A LOT OF MONEY - hundreds of thousands if not over a million due to damaging Manzo's reputation.
The reputation of all the others as also been ruined by the Drobnys. They all should sue.
http://media.phoenixnewtimes.com/3036025.0.pdf
The real issue here is the horrible Chicago-style corruption at NOVA-M initiated by the Drobnys, who tried to run a network in Arizona FROM Chicago. They were in a supervisory role at the time of the hiring of King Daevid. They failed to pay several employees, as Daevid was not the only one who wasn't paid. I've heard this whole story before, elsewhere, from another ex-NOVA-M individual.
The Drobnys fired several staffers along with CEO John A. Manzo in September, 2008. Since then, the ad revenues and list of web sponsors have gone way down, Randi Rhodes is gone, and the rumor is out there that Mike Malloy is about to go (I have no idea). And, somebody owes the owner of 1190 $2,250,000 for the 1190 signal.
And, earlier this month, John Manzo filed a lawsuit against the Drobnys, because they didn't pay him severance after his firing. The Drobnys even went so far as to file complaints with the FBI against Manzo. They are corrupt people from the Chicago.
The Drobnys would be well advised to start their next radio venture in Chicago, never in Arizona, and Dr. Mike Newcomb would be advised to pack his stethoscope and microphones and start a station in Boulder or Albuquerque. Phoenix is WAAAAYY to conservative for far-left talkers Rhodes, Miller, and Malloy.
Manzo Lawsuit Link. This really shows the corruption of the Drobnys. I feel sorry for Daevid and everyone else who suffered due to their presence within the great state of Arizona.
With Attorney Jonathan Van O'Steen, son of the very famous Atty. Van O'Steen who went all the way to the Supreme Court to make it possible for attorneys to advertise ON THE RADIO, the Drobnys will be paying A LOT OF MONEY - hundreds of thousands if not over a million due to damaging Manzo's reputation.
The reputation of all the others as also been ruined by the Drobnys. They all should sue.
http://media.phoenixnewtimes.com/3036025.0.pdf
TheRadioVortex said:
... but he got a FULL SET OF DENTURES!
This really is one of the funniest threads in the history of this board. There seem to be a fair number of fringe players & hangers-on from KXXT/KPHX/KNUV with crazy stories to tell, eh? Then, as icing on the proverbial cake, we've got a few rightwingers chipping in with wild-ass shots at the Lefties. (Lou Dobbs is a moderate)??? The whole thing is hilarious.
Manzo's lawsuit may be legitimate or it may be complete BS. Most likely he'll end up with a settlement check for a lot less than he wants, but maybe more than he deserves. Think about it for a minute. Here's a guy whose radio track-record was as a talk-show producer in Tampa & West Palm who jumps directly from being Randi's board-op to being a GM & CEO. Wow! That's a hell of a jump. So his biggest task over his year in the Big Chair was to figure out just exactly what GMs & CEOs actually do.
Any wonder KPHX couldn't pay the LMA fee? Any wonder these brokered-time fringe players are wandering in the desert claiming fraud for payments that were never really promised?
First it was a medical doctor as a GM. Then it was a board-op as a GM. Then another board-op as a GM... and now it appears the doctor is back as the GM--if there's actually a station left to run. The LMA is with Nova M, but Nova M is disappearing. There is no purchase deal. KNUV is up for grabs. Nobody in their right mind will pay $2 million for an AM that is basically a daytimer (yeah, it's got 250 watts at night... so does my reading lamp). 1190 is worth maybe around $300,000 if they'll take no money down and extend a payment schedule of $100 a month for 250 years...
It's Keystone Kops shit.
No, it's not real radio. But it's close enough to make for great entertainment among real radio people. These stories will provide fodder for liquored-up laughs at every media watering hole around Phoenix for years to come!
This really is one of the funniest threads in the history of this board. There seem to be a fair number of fringe players & hangers-on from KXXT/KPHX/KNUV with crazy stories to tell, eh? Then, as icing on the proverbial cake, we've got a few rightwingers chipping in with wild-ass shots at the Lefties. (Lou Dobbs is a moderate)??? The whole thing is hilarious.
Manzo's lawsuit may be legitimate or it may be complete BS. Most likely he'll end up with a settlement check for a lot less than he wants, but maybe more than he deserves. Think about it for a minute. Here's a guy whose radio track-record was as a talk-show producer in Tampa & West Palm who jumps directly from being Randi's board-op to being a GM & CEO. Wow! That's a hell of a jump. So his biggest task over his year in the Big Chair was to figure out just exactly what GMs & CEOs actually do.
Any wonder KPHX couldn't pay the LMA fee? Any wonder these brokered-time fringe players are wandering in the desert claiming fraud for payments that were never really promised?
First it was a medical doctor as a GM. Then it was a board-op as a GM. Then another board-op as a GM... and now it appears the doctor is back as the GM--if there's actually a station left to run. The LMA is with Nova M, but Nova M is disappearing. There is no purchase deal. KNUV is up for grabs. Nobody in their right mind will pay $2 million for an AM that is basically a daytimer (yeah, it's got 250 watts at night... so does my reading lamp). 1190 is worth maybe around $300,000 if they'll take no money down and extend a payment schedule of $100 a month for 250 years...
It's Keystone Kops shit.
No, it's not real radio. But it's close enough to make for great entertainment among real radio people. These stories will provide fodder for liquored-up laughs at every media watering hole around Phoenix for years to come!
Here is the Question, The LMA is between New Radio Venture and Nova M. Nova M is no more so that would indicate the LMA is also no more yet the signal is still active with some people that took over Nova M. Does the LMA Transfer or is it Void and now 1190 is no more than a pirate signal just waiting on the FCC to shut it down??
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