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Now Daystar is claiming "religious discrimination" by KOCE

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Seems they will claim anything to get their hands on KOCE.
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Wow...just like I did!

Maybe Daystar is doing my bidding...

When a court ruling claims a "smoking gun in the record" of a desire to "'filter out' any televangelists", a lawsuit by the aggrieved party seems to follow logically.

What I'm trying to figure out is Dahl's quote in the article, "It's interesting that Christians are suing fellow Christians claiming they discriminated against Christians." What fellow Christians is he referring to?

Anyway, it's going to be fascinating to see how all this plays out.
 
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> What I'm trying to figure out is Dahl's quote in the
> article, "It's interesting that Christians are suing fellow
> Christians claiming they discriminated against Christians."
> What fellow Christians is he referring to?

I believe he is referring to members of the Coast Community College board of trustees. IIRC, that board is predominantly Christian (as opposed to its members identifying with other religious faiths or beliefs).
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> Seems they will claim anything to get their hands on KOCE.

If so-called Christian broadcasters wonder why they get such a hostile reception, Daystar's behavior with respect to KOCE ought to be Exhibits A, B, C, and D.

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> > What I'm trying to figure out is Dahl's quote in the
> > article, "It's interesting that Christians are suing
> fellow
> > Christians claiming they discriminated against
> Christians."
> > What fellow Christians is he referring to?
>
> I believe he is referring to members of the Coast Community
> College board of trustees. IIRC, that board is
> predominantly Christian (as opposed to its members
> identifying with other religious faiths or beliefs).
>
In the looking-glass world of far-out evangelicals, though, if you're not *their* kind of Christian, you're not a Christian at all.

Speaks volumes.
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> In the looking-glass world of far-out evangelicals, though,
> if you're not *their* kind of Christian, you're not a
> Christian at all.
>
> Speaks volumes.
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>

That's not true at all. I'm very familiar with all types of Christian organizations from "mainstream" and liturgical to fundamentalist and Pentecostal evangelical, and I've known thousands of Christians from every stripe. I can tell you for a fact that while there are bigots of some sort in every organization, most Christians are tolerant, and even supportive, of other "brands" of Christianity. Many Christians don't care for what the televangelists are presenting. I'm not crazy about most of what's on their stations either. But I support unquestioningly their right to be on TV and to buy whatever station they see fit within the parameters of the law. It's a little thing called the 1st Amendment.

It looks as if Daystar is offering to devote 15-20% of the airtime to local coverage and PBS programming. There may be a compromise yet. I think the trustees would be nuts to not at least consider it - I really think Daystar has a case, so this could save face for the trustees.

Bottom line, despite your other comments, if the trustees had only considered cash offers as the law states, and if the trustees didn't modify the agreement to be more favorable to the KOCE Foundation 2 months after the bidding closed, none of this would be happening now.
 
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> That's not true at all. I'm very familiar with all types of
> Christian organizations from "mainstream" and liturgical to
> fundamentalist and Pentecostal evangelical, and I've known
> thousands of Christians from every stripe. I can tell you
> for a fact that while there are bigots of some sort in every
> organization, most Christians are tolerant, and even
> supportive, of other "brands" of Christianity.

There may be some regional factors at work. I have encountered
a few sort of "renegade" "Christian" churches whose principles
seem to stem from the rather twisted views of individual pastors.
These guys preach a belief that anybody who views religion even
slightly differently is not only NOT a Christian but is some
sort of Spawn Of The Devil. What's most interesting is that,
when someone owning a business joins up with such a church
they give great deals to their "fellows" and set out to totally
screw anybody other than "their own" who's foolish enough to
wander into their establishment (store, dealership, etc.).

The fortunate thing is that these tend to self-limit. They
may expand to one or two other locations but I have not yet
seen one grow big/wealthy enough to buy into radio---though
I have heard them using rented time in their locales.

But do others know of instances where they've moved into
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Re: Wow...just like I did!

Daystar claims they would devote 15% to 20% of KOCE-50's program schedule to "local coverage" and "PBS" programs.

Yeah, right!

This may last a year or two, but beyond that, Daystar will quietly get rid of anythying that's not Daystar religious programming.
 
> If so-called Christian broadcasters wonder why they get such
> a hostile reception, Daystar's behavior with respect to KOCE
> ought to be Exhibits A, B, C, and D.

I had posted this below and gotten little response, so I'll repeat myself here:

KOCE is more than just a "stick" - it's an ongoing business, with a heritage of more than four decades of providing a specific sort of programming (in this case, PBS offerings and local public affairs) to an audience of viewer/members who have contributed millions of dollars in the expectation that such programming will continue into the future.

Why would KOCE's licensee *not* have the right, as part of any sale of the station, to consider not only the cash value of the offer but also the question of whether the station would continue to operate in the manner in which it's been operated for many years?

That was clearly the intent of the board of trustees in preferring the sale to the foundation; I'll concede that it may not have handled the matter very well, but it seems to me that the board does, or at least should, have the ability to give preference to a sale that will continue the station's operations unchanged over one that will replace the programming with something else, WHATEVER that something else might be. It really has nothing to do with religion, when you get down to it.<P ID="signature">______________
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