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NPR temporarily stopped it's twitter accounts in a "state-media" beef with Elon Musk

Could it be due to the invasion of Ukraine by Russia?
If it is, it is stupid. Should we also stop using Russian climate science data, or other scientific data from Russian scientists?

The scientists didn't decide to invade Ukraine. Putin did.

The Russians built part of the Space Station. Should we stop using it because of what Putin did in Ukraine?

China has about a million Uighurs in concentration camps. Yet trade in scientific data and trade in electronics parts between China and the US goes on unabated. In fact, China got support from the US media when some folks were questioning the security of their viral research sites, and got blocked because of it.
 
Or perhaps they see this as an unprovoked attack by Elon on free speech and liberty.

The more Elon attacks his customers, the more they'll leave. At some point, Twitter will become MySpace.

He is damaging his brand, and he is too rich to notice or care. It's the tyranny of the rich.
Well, he's got 395 million Twitter users to go. By the time he destroys Twitter, if he does, NPR will probably mostly be off FM and will be just another internet content provider vying for visibility with a gazillion other content sites, especially as their audience is going to age out after GenX hits age 65.
 
just another internet content provider
That we must pay absurd subscription fees (not to mention the cost of the necessary internet connection) to hear!

I realize it's probably better for the content providers, as it enables them to reach a wider audience, and generate money without the overhead of having to support a legacy broadcasting infrastructure and all the stuff that goes with it, but how is that better for us listeners, when the same thing is more or less already available in most places on FM, no subscriptions or ISPs required?

I don't understand. It can't be all about the audio quality, because FM quality is already quite good for talk, and I just don't see how much or why it needs to be much better than that. For music, sure. But talk?

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If it is, it is stupid. Should we also stop using Russian climate science data, or other scientific data from Russian scientists?
Really? You think the invasion of another sovereign nation is stupid? Strange value system, if that's the case.
The scientists didn't decide to invade Ukraine. Putin did.
But they're Russian scientists aren't they?
The Russians built part of the Space Station. Should we stop using it because of what Putin did in Ukraine?
You assume the U.S./Russian space program has ended. It hasn't. We just flew a Cosmonaut up to the space station a few weeks ago aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9.
China has about a million Uighurs in concentration camps. Yet trade in scientific data and trade in electronics parts between China and the US goes on unabated. In fact, China got support from the US media when some folks were questioning the security of their viral research sites, and got blocked because of it.
China hasn't invaded a sovereign nation lately has it?
 
China hasn't invaded a sovereign nation lately has it?
Well, not recently but the 1950 takeover of Tibet is quite astounding. In particular, the suppression of local customs, language and beliefs. Add in Xi Jinping's constant insistence on Taiwan being part of China and we have a bit of old fashioned imperialism.

Both Taiwan and the Philippines have taken further recent measures to discourage Chinese invasion, including the forging of new alliances with Australia and New Zealand and affiliation with some of the independent or quasi-independent island states of the Southwest Pacific.
 
Well, not recently but the 1950 takeover of Tibet is quite astounding. In particular, the suppression of local customs, language and beliefs.
I'm still not all that familiar with what caused that in the first place, other than Mao being Mao. Tibet is not and never was as important as Taiwan.
Add in Xi Jinping's constant insistence on Taiwan being part of China and we have a bit of old fashioned imperialism.
Old fashioned as in "Mao's time." Given how much business has gone on between Taiwan and China over the last few decades after the death of Chiang Kai-Shek, I find it hard to take Xi's saber-rattling seriously. Money talks, and China loves money as much as we do. It hasn't been truly communist since Mao's death.
Both Taiwan and the Philippines have taken further recent measures to discourage Chinese invasion, including the forging of new alliances with Australia and New Zealand and affiliation with some of the independent or quasi-independent island states of the Southwest Pacific.
Maybe it's time to bring SEATO (the Vietnam War-era alliance between the US, UK, Australia, NZ, and a few other countries in the South Pacific region) back to life in some form. It had died in 1977.
 
Old fashioned as in "Mao's time."
No, old fashioned as in how the United States got Panama to separate from Colombia, declare independence and then sign an agreement for the canal. Or the war that "gave us" Puerto Rico and the Philippines...

My favorite example of imperialism was the 1964 change in government in Ecuador when the President was "removed" and the military, trained at the US bases in Panamá, took over.
Given how much business has gone on between Taiwan and China over the last few decades after the death of Chiang Kai-Shek, I find it hard to take Xi's saber-rattling seriously. Money talks, and China loves money as much as we do. It hasn't been truly communist since Mao's death.
It's been "socially engineered totalitarianism". Restrictions on freedom of employment, restrictions on the practice of religion, free enterprise that requires government affiliated "Party Leaders" to be overseers of businesses as well as "partners"...
Maybe it's time to bring SEATO (the Vietnam War-era alliance between the US, UK, Australia, NZ, and a few other countries in the South Pacific region) back to life in some form. It had died in 1977.
More effective would be trade agreements that encourage industrialization in our Hemisphere. There is nothing that is made in China that could not equally be made in Mexico or Colombia or Argentina while at the same time reducing the need to migrate to the US.
 
No, old fashioned as in how the United States got Panama to separate from Colombia, declare independence and then sign an agreement for the canal. Or the war that "gave us" Puerto Rico and the Philippines...
That's called "spoils of war." We defeated Spain in 1898, regardless of all the BS that came from the NYC papers that were instrumental in starting that war. Cuba was let go in 1904, the Phillipines after WW2.

Puerto Rico gets to vote on its status later this year from what I understand. They'll get a choice of statehood or independence, and the current Commonwealth will go away regardless. It'll be up to the people of Puerto Rico, as it should be. Regardless of how the vote goes, Congress should be obligated to concur.
My favorite example of imperialism was the 1964 change in government in Ecuador when the President was "removed" and the military, trained at the US bases in Panamá, took over.
IIRC, you were there when that happened. Was the CIA involved, or was this apart from US influence?
It's been "socially engineered totalitarianism". Restrictions on freedom of employment, restrictions on the practice of religion, free enterprise that requires government affiliated "Party Leaders" to be overseers of businesses as well as "partners"...
China is a dictatorship, even though it is capitalist now. It's something we have to deal with.
More effective would be trade agreements that encourage industrialization in our Hemisphere. There is nothing that is made in China that could not equally be made in Mexico or Colombia or Argentina while at the same time reducing the need to migrate to the US.
Can't disagree with that in principle, but the problem is labor costs. China has quasi-slave labor. I hope the Latin American countries aren't following suit.
 
Twitter is/was a microblogging site. Originally your tweet had to be 140 characters, later 280. There are folks who use Twitter as a news aggregator and never tweet
I know what Twitter is/was, thanks. In fact, I was user #612 in the original Twitter Beta group. I had met Biz Stone, one of the original founders back in 1999 at a conference, and he asked me if I would like to help test it for them.
I was just astounded to read cc comparing Instagram as an alternative to Twitter.
 
When I first heard about Twitter, I thought - that's practically the same as the old (still operating) IRC/Internet Relay Chat, but Twitter keeps the old messages (and can save and play multimedia content).

In the Fall of 1996, I found out about an ISP that offered IRC only for $5/month, I used a dialup internet connection provided free by the KC library system (Lynx browser), it was a lot of fun to chat with people all over the world in real time.

NPR could put their intended for Twitter content on #NPR on the IRC system.


Kirk Bayne
 
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