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WRKS 98.7 Kiss FM New York . The Number One station in The Big Apple ( Spring 08 Ratings ).
 
Congrats Kiss on the City win... though as I was looking at the Long Island numbers and Jersey numbers (and I'm sure lower Hudson will be the same) very strong showing by Z100... Up to #3 on the Island and #1 in Jersey, so they'll still be the areas ratings leader, but when you are counting just the immediate #1 market... congrats Kiss on squeeking one out... #1 is #1 no matter the margin!
 
Congrats to Kiss-FM for being #1 in the ratings! WLTW's "Lite-FM" went a little bit further in the ratings, but it's #3 but it was not as bad since the departure of Jim Ryan from the CC Joker where Batman got rid of him to make way for Chris Conley. Chris was from Philly's WBEB's "B-101.1" and he now the PD of WLTW and will see if this come to it, maybe Batman & Robin will at the Clear Channel headquarters in Gotham City. Z-100 did well in the #2 spot, kudos to everyone.

CBS-FM does as an oldies station for playing "The Greatest Hits of all Time", WBPM is playing too much generic classic rock stuff that doesn't fit the format in the Hudson Valley area for example WCBS-FM on the HD-2 channel, they're playing much of the same, just like WBPM does with CBS-FM on HD-2 after "Jack" died back in April which is now called "101.1 HD-2" which is now a rock station than "Jack". Give the station credit to play the right songs that CBS-FM plays on the other hand of HD-1/FM and WBPM in the Hudson Valley listening area would not get credit for playing the songs right, but it was too deep to play songs by Supertramp, Aerosmith, Boston, Meatloaf, Alice Cooper and other rock artists mixed with Billy Joel, Elton John, the Beach Boys and others on this particular format. CBS-FM did a great job choosing the right songs and WBPM's "Classic Hits 92.9" does not, they choose the songs and took it the wrong way. If you want to hear the good stuff that WBPM should play, as I said it again, listen to it on "101.1 HD-2" and you might hear some liners done by CBS-FM's jock Pat St. John.

WRXP gives us a big boo-boo in the ratings, they just pulled the plug on "Smooth Jazz" CD-101.9 back in February to make way for this WDST crap. WDST is a station in Woodstock, NY playing AAA rather than this garbage that WRXP plays the same old, same old dumb AAA kinda stuff that WDST plays. WRXP will not get credit, it's going nowhere than this "Air America" garbage when it was on WLIB at the time when it was on 1190 and then later moved to 1600 WWRL about two years ago. Blake Lawrence from "CD-101.9" was let go and hire a new PD for WRXP. Bad move for this station at 101.9. WRXP needs to be doomed.

"Fresh" at 102.7 is not the best station in town, look at Chicago, they had "Fresh" on a different frequency at 105.9. Look at the ratings, both New York and Chicago's version of "Fresh" on 102.7 in NY and 105.9 in Chicago, both of these stations are doing bad.

WABC is okay with the except of Imus, I'm not a big fan of Imus, but I love "Bob & Sheri" a lot, but it's not happening in New York, except in the HV listening area which is on Lite-FM at 98.5 B&S are funnier than ever including the "Eye Opener" segment and an hour of the "Chat Room", just like Imus, just the two shocks that I hate was Howard Stern and Opie & Anthony, but I'm into those two shock jock shows in detail.

Anyway, congratulation on WRKS for making #1 in the books. If the PPM's coming out, tune in next time as the Arbitron proudly presents the PPM ratings.
 
Justin Case said:
Congrats Kiss on the City win... though as I was looking at the Long Island numbers and Jersey numbers (and I'm sure lower Hudson will be the same) very strong showing by Z100... Up to #3 on the Island and #1 in Jersey, so they'll still be the areas ratings leader, but when you are counting just the immediate #1 market... congrats Kiss on squeeking one out... #1 is #1 no matter the margin!

The NYC book includes Long Island, Jersey, Westchester, etc., not just the five boroughs.
 
Autsj, RXP is down the drain. I like the station but is very painfull for them. Smooth Jazz is comming back on 101.9 I think....
Kiss is doing great, but still no live streaming. Still walking behind the facts...
 
neo11 said:
Justin Case said:
Congrats Kiss on the City win... though as I was looking at the Long Island numbers and Jersey numbers (and I'm sure lower Hudson will be the same) very strong showing by Z100... Up to #3 on the Island and #1 in Jersey, so they'll still be the areas ratings leader, but when you are counting just the immediate #1 market... congrats Kiss on squeeking one out... #1 is #1 no matter the margin!

The NYC book includes Long Island, Jersey, Westchester, etc., not just the five boroughs.

Not totally true... it only contains immediately adjacent parts of those... Long Island (Nassua & Suffolk) is US Market #18; Jersey (Middlesex, Somerset, and Union, NJ) is market #38; and the Hudson Valley is also its own market for what Westchester, Orange, Middletown and Newburgh in at #139...

When you consider the ratings for Market #1, along with the surrounding "markets" or commuter suburbs as I think of 'em... you get a clearer picture of the area's numbers. Z100 does very well across all these markets and probably has the most listeners, even if edged out in the city ratings shares.
 
Justin Case said:
neo11 said:
Justin Case said:
Congrats Kiss on the City win... though as I was looking at the Long Island numbers and Jersey numbers (and I'm sure lower Hudson will be the same) very strong showing by Z100... Up to #3 on the Island and #1 in Jersey, so they'll still be the areas ratings leader, but when you are counting just the immediate #1 market... congrats Kiss on squeeking one out... #1 is #1 no matter the margin!

The NYC book includes Long Island, Jersey, Westchester, etc., not just the five boroughs.

Not totally true... it only contains immediately adjacent parts of those... Long Island (Nassua & Suffolk) is US Market #18; Jersey (Middlesex, Somerset, and Union, NJ) is market #38; and the Hudson Valley is also its own market for what Westchester, Orange, Middletown and Newburgh in at #139...

When you consider the ratings for Market #1, along with the surrounding "markets" or commuter suburbs as I think of 'em... you get a clearer picture of the area's numbers. Z100 does very well across all these markets and probably has the most listeners, even if edged out in the city ratings shares.

Wrong. All of those markets are embedded within the NYC book *and* also broken out separately. The numbers from all of those books count towards the overall NYC book.
 
neo11 said:
Wrong. All of those markets are embedded within the NYC book *and* also broken out separately. The numbers from all of those books count towards the overall NYC book.

You are correct. The NY MSA consists of these counties or jurisdictions:

Fairfield CT
Bergen NJ
Esse3x, NJ
Hudson, NJ
Middlesex NJ
Monmouth, NJ
Morris, NJ
Passaic, NJ
Somerset, NJ
Union, NJ
Bronx
Kings
Nassau
New York
Putnam
Queens
Richmond
Rockla nd
Suffolk
Westchester

Like a number of markets, certain subsets are broken out as metros inside a metro. All are fully contained in the NY MSA, though.
 
Justin Case said:
Wouldn't that be the New York TSA not the MSA? Total Survey Area, not Metro?

No. That is the MSA. Right from the eBook.
 
Well I just went through the 2008 Market comparisons on the Arbitron site and the numbers just don't add up for the NY metro, and lets not even mention the 3-million plus others added in the TSA? They surely do not come from the rural areas. LOL... This is just another reason why I don't trust the numbers... people being counted twice, makes no sense, and who knows how many times they're weighted anyway... and may be weighted differently per market survey.
 
Justin Case said:
Well I just went through the 2008 Market comparisons on the Arbitron site and the numbers just don't add up for the NY metro, and lets not even mention the 3-million plus others added in the TSA? They surely do not come from the rural areas. LOL... This is just another reason why I don't trust the numbers... people being counted twice, makes no sense, and who knows how many times they're weighted anyway... and may be weighted differently per market survey.

People are not counted twice.

The NY MSA includes counties that are also tabulated and weighted separately as embedded markets.

In a simplified overview, let's say that there are 10,000 diaries for the MSA for NY, and 1000 for Nassau-Suffolk.

In the overall MSA sample, the 1000 are tabulated with the other 9000. Weighting is applied on the total sample based on the characteristics of the total MSA universe..

In the Nassau-Suffolk sample, the same 1000 are separately tabulated as if they were a market unto itself. Weighting is applied based on achieving proportionality only against the Nassau Suffolk universe.

Weighting is only applied to the final results to bring cells into proportionality, and weighting up or down for most cells is only a couple of percent.

Very few people look at TSA, which is why it is available only in 2 of the 4 books a year. And the PPM will not have TSA, just MSA.
 
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