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NY PPM RATINGS RELEASED FOR 6/09: 5/28/09-6/24/09

For the publicly released overall 6+ PPM data for June 2009 (Thu. 5/28/09-Wed. 6/24/09), see the radio-info.com New York Ratings Grid.

Some additions/corrections to the grid:

Station Est % Share Cume Format Owner

WMTR-AM 0.2 156,700 Oldies Greater Media
WLTW-FM Stream 0.2 110,100 Adult Contemporary Clear Channel
WWFS-FM Stream 0.1 122,000 Adult Contemporary CBS Radio
WVIP-FM Hudson-Westchester Radio, Inc.


The next survey period will be from Thu. 6/25/09-Wed. 7/22/09 with the publicly released 6+ overall data released on Wed. 8/12/09.

The next survey period will include the WCBS-FM "Z to A" multiple-day presentation.
 
Now is going nowhere fast...still locked in at a 1.8 despite a small increase in its cume (they're actually #10 in cume but seem to have an abysmally low TSL).

In fact, if you look at their numbers in the separate LI book (which, of course, is embedded within the larger NYC book), they're *down* there to an 0.9, behind even Que Buena 92.7 :eek: The station's "strong spot" seems to be in the Middlesex book (also embedded within the NYC book) where they scored a 3.2...which however is down from 3.6 the previous month. No growth apparent anywhere.

RXP up slightly to a 1.7, which is the best they've ever been.

Pulse up a tick once again to an 0.8.

CBS-FM makes the leap to 2nd place 12+ with a 5.2...really strong numbers which seem to justify the station's choices as far as their music. Z100 goes from 2nd to 3rd due to CBS-FM's rise, not any real decline of their own. 92.3 doesn't seem to have eaten in to their numbers at all. KTU doesn't seem to have been hurt either.

The urban stations continue to be weak, with Power 105 falling below a 3 share and tied with PLJ in 15th place.

WNYC-FM and WQXR are quite near each other, with a 1.8 and 2.0 respectively, while WNYC-AM has a 1.0. Will be interesting to see how those numbers are affected by the changes that will take place to those stations soon. WCAA remains fairly low at a 1.6...in a few months' time we'll see if a move to a full-powered ESB stick will significantly increase their numbers.
 
Is it just my impression or is 'RXP finally jettisoning the dinosaur/boomer rock that has, in my estimation, kept them so depressed in the ratings?
 
MarcR said:
Is it just my impression or is 'RXP finally jettisoning the dinosaur/boomer rock that has, in my estimation, kept them so depressed in the ratings?

When surfing through their playlist on yes.com the other day, I still saw them playing the likes of Aerosmith, AC/DC, Led Zeppelin and the like. It's possible they reduced the airplay for those types of songs/artists, but they're still there.
 
lalumia said:
wow, so my Beatles and Supremes are beating up on Lady Gaga and the Jonas Brothers...gotta luv it...

What? Until recently you sure seemed pretty gaga over Z100, which also plays its share of Lady Gaga and the Jonas Brothers. By that logic, we could say that...Lady Gaga and the Jonas Brothers are beating up on...Lady Gaga (pretty sure 92.3 does NOT play the Jonas Brothers but I could be wrong).

Also, just noticed that earlier this evening 92.3 played "That's Not My Name" by the Ting Tings...sandwiched between Flo Rida and Pitbull :D
 
neo11 said:
Now is going nowhere fast...still locked in at a 1.8 despite a small increase in its cume (they're actually #10 in cume but seem to have an abysmally low TSL).

In fact, if you look at their numbers in the separate LI book (which, of course, is embedded within the larger NYC book), they're *down* there to an 0.9, behind even Que Buena 92.7 :eek: The station's "strong spot" seems to be in the Middlesex book (also embedded within the NYC book) where they scored a 3.2...which however is down from 3.6 the previous month. No growth apparent anywhere.

RXP up slightly to a 1.7, which is the best they've ever been.

Pulse up a tick once again to an 0.8.

CBS-FM makes the leap to 2nd place 12+ with a 5.2...really strong numbers which seem to justify the station's choices as far as their music. Z100 goes from 2nd to 3rd due to CBS-FM's rise, not any real decline of their own. 92.3 doesn't seem to have eaten in to their numbers at all. KTU doesn't seem to have been hurt either.

The urban stations continue to be weak, with Power 105 falling below a 3 share and tied with PLJ in 15th place.

WNYC-FM and WQXR are quite near each other, with a 1.8 and 2.0 respectively, while WNYC-AM has a 1.0. Will be interesting to see how those numbers are affected by the changes that will take place to those stations soon. WCAA remains fairly low at a 1.6...in a few months' time we'll see if a move to a full-powered ESB stick will significantly increase their numbers.

No one buys 6+ - so the numbers are meaningless. Power 105 and Hot 97 are still strong in their 18-34 target demo.

Meanwhile, WPLJ is still strong 25-54.
 
CBS-FM has saved the day, #2 on the list beaten by WLTW's "Lite-FM" at #1. Thanks to CBS and the CBS crew for making the #2 station in the NYC area. CBS-FM played the songs they picked by a library of artists from Motown, Philly soul, rock and others, not to pick on WBPM for choosing the songs that are wrong from what "Jack" did back in 2005. WBPM is mostly a classic rock station with just a mess of AOR stuff like the old WNEW-FM from 40 years ago except the "Music Blimp" heard every Saturday night playing nothing but 80's New Wave, and yes, CBS-FM briefly plays so New Wave 80's stuff, but I can't get any better than this.

Anyways enough with the WBPM stuff, I said it enough times to say and I will continue to say so. Congratulations to CBS-FM for being #2, will it go to #1? Stay tuned!
 
I luv Z100 and the currents, I am a club dj after all, but I also luv the fact that a station heavy on 60s hits is #2 in NYC after certain folks told us that this could never happen...
 
Radioresearcher said:
No one buys 6+ - so the numbers are meaningless. Power 105 and Hot 97 are still strong in their 18-34 target demo.

Meanwhile, WPLJ is still strong 25-54.

We all know that the 12+ numbers are meaningless, but seeing Power 105.1 at a 2.9 when they were once hovering in the mid 4's can't be meaningless. Where did those listeners go? Were they all non-target demo listeners? I would find that hard to believe. They may still be strong in their target demo, but are they as strong as they were even two years ago?
 
Pulse 87 is up yet again, and only down 1 point from NOW and RXP. 3 to 1 odds that Pulse surpasses NOW or RXP in either cume or share by the end of the year.
 
What are Hot 97's and Power 1051's 18-34 numbers?

Radioresearcher said:
neo11 said:
Now is going nowhere fast...still locked in at a 1.8 despite a small increase in its cume (they're actually #10 in cume but seem to have an abysmally low TSL).

In fact, if you look at their numbers in the separate LI book (which, of course, is embedded within the larger NYC book), they're *down* there to an 0.9, behind even Que Buena 92.7 :eek: The station's "strong spot" seems to be in the Middlesex book (also embedded within the NYC book) where they scored a 3.2...which however is down from 3.6 the previous month. No growth apparent anywhere.

RXP up slightly to a 1.7, which is the best they've ever been.

Pulse up a tick once again to an 0.8.

CBS-FM makes the leap to 2nd place 12+ with a 5.2...really strong numbers which seem to justify the station's choices as far as their music. Z100 goes from 2nd to 3rd due to CBS-FM's rise, not any real decline of their own. 92.3 doesn't seem to have eaten in to their numbers at all. KTU doesn't seem to have been hurt either.

The urban stations continue to be weak, with Power 105 falling below a 3 share and tied with PLJ in 15th place.

WNYC-FM and WQXR are quite near each other, with a 1.8 and 2.0 respectively, while WNYC-AM has a 1.0. Will be interesting to see how those numbers are affected by the changes that will take place to those stations soon. WCAA remains fairly low at a 1.6...in a few months' time we'll see if a move to a full-powered ESB stick will significantly increase their numbers.

No one buys 6+ - so the numbers are meaningless. Power 105 and Hot 97 are still strong in their 18-34 target demo.

Meanwhile, WPLJ is still strong 25-54.
 
Nick said:
Pulse 87 is up yet again, and only down 1 point from NOW and RXP. 3 to 1 odds that Pulse surpasses NOW or RXP in either cume or share by the end of the year.

I didn't realize that a .1 increase was such a cause for celebration. :) You didn't mention that the station's cume dipped slightly in June as well.
 
MarcR said:
Nick said:
Pulse 87 is up yet again, and only down 1 point from NOW and RXP. 3 to 1 odds that Pulse surpasses NOW or RXP in either cume or share by the end of the year.

I didn't realize that a .1 increase was such a cause for celebration. :) You didn't mention that the station's cume dipped slightly in June as well.

No need to go to either extreme. Increases/decreases of .1 and of a few thousand in cume are usually meaningless either way and could be chalked up to statistical fluctuation from month to month. They're more significant when looking at how the numbers trend over the period of a few months or more.
 
A girl I went to school with loves the Guido Dance music that Pulse 87 plays, but says she cant pick it up in Stamford,Connecticut. The other NYC stations come in nice and clear up there.

700,000 listeners is good for a station that not many people can pick up on their radios.
 
JerseyDude said:
A girl I went to school with loves the Guido Dance music that Pulse 87 plays, but says she cant pick it up in Stamford,Connecticut. The other NYC stations come in nice and clear up there.

700,000 listeners is good for a station that not many people can pick up on their radios.

Very good, in fact. To illustrate, WNYC-FM's cume last month was only about 9,000 people greater than Pulse's...an insignificant difference. Granted, WNYC-FM's TSL is much higher, which is why it had a 1.8 and Pulse an 0.8, but that's to be expected.

Despite the many naysayers and repeated scenarios of imminent financial doom, Pulse has been quite a success thus far.
 
neo11 said:
JerseyDude said:
A girl I went to school with loves the Guido Dance music that Pulse 87 plays, but says she cant pick it up in Stamford,Connecticut. The other NYC stations come in nice and clear up there.

700,000 listeners is good for a station that not many people can pick up on their radios.

Very good, in fact. To illustrate, WNYC-FM's cume last month was only about 9,000 people greater than Pulse's...an insignificant difference. Granted, WNYC-FM's TSL is much higher, which is why it had a 1.8 and Pulse an 0.8, but that's to be expected.

Despite the many naysayers and repeated scenarios of imminent financial doom, Pulse has been quite a success thus far.

I don't think you can realistically expect a dance formatted station to ever have a high TSL. The so-called "casual" listener probably would tune in just to sample the station but not remain very long.
 
MarcR said:
neo11 said:
JerseyDude said:
A girl I went to school with loves the Guido Dance music that Pulse 87 plays, but says she cant pick it up in Stamford,Connecticut. The other NYC stations come in nice and clear up there.

700,000 listeners is good for a station that not many people can pick up on their radios.

Very good, in fact. To illustrate, WNYC-FM's cume last month was only about 9,000 people greater than Pulse's...an insignificant difference. Granted, WNYC-FM's TSL is much higher, which is why it had a 1.8 and Pulse an 0.8, but that's to be expected.

Despite the many naysayers and repeated scenarios of imminent financial doom, Pulse has been quite a success thus far.

I don't think you can realistically expect a dance formatted station to ever have a high TSL. The so-called "casual" listener probably would tune in just to sample the station but not remain very long.

Yes...that's why I said it was to be expected that their TSL would be much lower than, say, WNYC, despite the two stations having almost the same cume.

Trying to read between the lines, it does seem that their TSL is higher than that of 92.3 Now, however!
 
My TSL of Pulse 87 is all day at work. Pulse 87 does come in at Stamford. .1 may be a statistical fluctuation, but the trend is rising .1 every ratings period. .8 is really great for a signal on 87.7 that some radios can't even tune to. If WNYZ operated as a real TV station, it wouldn't have 700,000 viewers. Please don't call it Guido Dance music, everyone's welcome to like dance music, not just Italians.
 
I've said this before, but I really think that 87.7 would get more "love" from some of these folks on the message boards if it had played country, or standards, or "true oldies" instead of dance music.

What Mega Media is doing with 87.7 *really* bothers a lot of people.

Heck, let's think about it another way...Pulse is only a couple of ticks down from WALK in the NYC book and the two stations have similar cumes. Sure, WALK is a Long Island station, but it's a Long Island station with a HUGE signal and format that's about as mainstream as you can get. It's a good comparison considering 87.7's signal and dial position doesn't allow it to compete on an equal footing with the major NYC FM stations.
 
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