Lower Fairfield County, CT, is similarly without country radio, despite having many towns that are just as suburban as the towns that surround Hartford, where WWYZ has been a ratings and sales winner since the late '80s. WWYZ is an option at the eastern edge of Fairfield County, but not in NYC suburbs like New Canaan and Greenwich.
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NYC Metro Radio Ratings - December 2022
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No, I’m not. If you want a diverse radio dial, I advise checking out LA, Chicago, even Dallas/Ft. Worth.
Before that, the poster should gain a basic understanding as to the differences between commercial broadcast radio and personal playlists like Apple Music or Spotify.
I do.
I'm just say NY radio doesn't have much or any variety.
Please don't try to hurt me.
Country is on WHCY FM 106.3 in Blairstown in Northwestern New Jersey in Sussex, Morris (Western), and Warren Counties.
It has as much variety as it can support, given the makeup of its population.
It's more than just population. It is the "inventory" of what's available to program on.
Take Manhattan (or Brooklyn Heights or Long Island City) as a reception point. There are 20 full- or near-full-power signals above 92 mhz someone with an average quality FM radio can receive with a decent signal. (Plus a handful of "suburban" stations that make it into the city.) Three are non-commercial. One is public radio (WNYC), running news/info programs from NPR and others. Another is religious (WPLJ), running EMF's K-Love format. A third is Pacifica (WBAI). All three see themselves as having some particular "mission" they persue through their programming, whether you personally agree with that mission or not.
Two of the 20 do sports (WEPN, WFAN), and one now simulcasts 1010WINS. That leaves 14.
Three air Spanish-language programming (WPAT, WXNY, WSKQ). One superserves the Black population (WBLS), three play variations of hip-hop (WQHT, WPWR, WXBK), and one concentrates on classical (WQXR). That leaves six (WHTZ, WCBS-FM, WNEW, WKTU, WAXQ, WLTW) targeting the broad market with their particular variations of contemporary or classic hits.
Which one(s) get s-canned so "Amy" can have his/her personal iPod on a full-market signal? The answer is None. More likely you will find what you want from a suburban station (WDHA maybe?), or one of the SiriusXM channels. Or Apple Music+, Amazon Music Unlimited or Youtube Music. Or a niche streamer.
Amyisapunk's musical taste is reflected out there somewhere, but it may take some work to find it.
Only if you focus on the stations in Manhattan. That's the wrong place to look for the country audience. Those people live in the suburbs. As I often say, radio is not in the music distribution business. It doesn't matter to them what they play. It all costs the same to them. What matters is what they can sell. And they can't sell country...at least not in the five boroughs.
When someone says "there's no variety," that's not what they really mean. There's lots of variety...just not anything they like. That's a very different thing.
Nobody is trying to hurt you. But saying the same thing over and over again despite numerous explanations as to why the radio dial is what it is, is somewhat confusing. There are plenty of ways to access lower mass-appeal, niche formats like newer rock...just not on the NYC radio dial.
I think of the largest markets, one would have to say Chicago has the best radio dial.
All forms of rock (including a successful AAA), urban and AC are represented, two CHRs, an iconic country station, a legendary local news/talk, all news, sports, plenty of syndicated talk, all stripes of religious and ethnic programming etc.
Years ago in the 1980s, I remember Larry King was broadcasting from some kind of radio convention/show in Chicago and the guests he had all agreed that Chicago was the best radio city in the USA.
All forms of rock (including a successful AAA), urban and AC are represented, two CHRs, an iconic country station, a legendary local news/talk, all news, sports, plenty of syndicated talk, all stripes of religious and ethnic programming etc.
Years ago in the 1980s, I remember Larry King was broadcasting from some kind of radio convention/show in Chicago and the guests he had all agreed that Chicago was the best radio city in the USA.
I believe Los Angeles has all the formats that are present in New York, plus Alt., Country, and Regional Mexican (New York has a large Mexican population, without a station).
Are there other major cities with as many noncommercial stations on the commercial part of the dial. as there are in New York?
Are there other major cities with as many noncommercial stations on the commercial part of the dial. as there are in New York?
I don't know, but the fact that it exists in market #1 with no real regulatory recourse seems wrong to me. The fact that NY has an overcrowded NCE portion of the dial that has been allowed to expand into the commercial area. Meanwhile the commercial operators are not allowed to tread to the NCE area. Seems unfair to me.
No reciprocity.
Reciprocity of what? How does the way that a radio station supports itself impact anything? If the station can sustain itself, or the mission/goals of its owner, then so be it.
This seems to be some sort of construct that has no basis in reality.
Is there something specific that you want? Oldies? Alt rock? EDM? Some other format that you personally feel is underserved, but in reality has little to no commercial value? Do you dislike K-Love or WNYC-FM?
I have no horse in the game. I mostly listen to satellite, streaming or all news. However, from strictly business standpoint, I'm still not sure what you would consider "fair". Seems pretty subjective, doesn't it.
Ask the FCC. They have rules regarding NCE and the NCE part of the dial. Why are we preserving a section of the dial for NCE when stations are free to operate non-commercially in the commercial area? Seems totally unnecessary. The FCC is preserving something that needs no preservation. It's not a matter of what I like or dislike. It seems as though commercial radio is more in need of reservation than non-commercial. I'm looking at this as a purely regulatory issue. At the same time, we have activists who are campaigning for an expansion of the FM dial, and they also want it to be strictly NCE! That's crazy.
This is business. I am sure that commercial broadcasters have "activists" that will lobby for their interests just as the non-commercial ones do. I'm not sure what benefit additional commercial broadcast opportunities will have. It will just be more stations to carving up the same shrinking revenue pie.
No, it's regulation.
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