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NYC needs alternative/oldies...

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xcfan13

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NYC needs an alternative station,an oldies station, a talk station & a country station. 105.1 could be alternative,102.7 could be oldies,107.1 in west chester county could be talk & 96.3 could be country.I'm sorry all of u hip-hop fans out there i think nyc only needs 1 hip-hop station the one that was there the longest Hot 97.
 
> NYC needs an alternative station,an oldies station, a talk
> station & a country station. 105.1 could be
> alternative,102.7 could be oldies,107.1 in west chester
> county could be talk & 96.3 could be country.I'm sorry all
> of u hip-hop fans out there i think nyc only needs 1 hip-hop
> station the one that was there the longest Hot 97.
>
102.7: Oldies? In your dreams. Infinity obviously believes that Oldies is not a choice for one of their FM stations. Why would they have blown up WCBS-FM if they had believed differently? Oldies would most likely go on WQCD or WPLJ IF Oldies even ever made a comeback in NYC, which doesn't look promising.

96.3: Country? Don't think so. The New York Times would be just as likely to put country on WQXR as Infinity to put oldies on 102.7.

Oldies and country will probably never be heard on an FM station in NY again--country moreso than oldies.

As far as only one hip-hop station in NY: AMEN TO THAT!
 
> NYC needs an alternative station,an oldies station, a talk
> station & a country station. 105.1 could be
> alternative,102.7 could be oldies,107.1 in west chester
> county could be talk & 96.3 could be country.I'm sorry all
> of u hip-hop fans out there i think nyc only needs 1 hip-hop
> station the one that was there the longest Hot 97.
>
Arguably, 107.1 is an "alternative" station...but more along the lines of AAA. And just curious, why not flip a station like 94.7? Or put "hot talk" on an AM station? Or oldies on an AM station?
 
> Arguably, 107.1 is an "alternative" station...but more along
> the lines of AAA. And just curious, why not flip a station
> like 94.7? Or put "hot talk" on an AM station? Or oldies on
> an AM station?

If "corporate" formats (i.e. those with little or no live, local programming) didn't exist in NYC, then that would instantly open up 101.1 WCBS-FM, 1050 WEPN, 1190 WLIB, and 1560 WQEW, as well as a bunch of the lesser AM stations.

As for Family Radio's 94.7 WFME, I think once Harold Camping bites the dust, they'll either sell out or switch to a more "secular"-sounding format (much like "Star 99.1" WAWZ in central NJ -- still owned by Alma White's "Pillar of Fire" church group).
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> NYC needs an alternative station,an oldies station, a talk
> station & a country station. 105.1 could be
> alternative,102.7 could be oldies,107.1 in west chester
> county could be talk & 96.3 could be country.I'm sorry all
> of u hip-hop fans out there i think nyc only needs 1 hip-hop
> station the one that was there the longest Hot 97.
>
I understand you might want your format, but you have to udnerstand radiio is a business. & in the radio busioness ratings & advertising are huge. I think it was kind of dumb for CBS to change. However we have been over the other discussions before. For starters 96.3 isn't changing anytime soon & if it did it wouldn't be country. The format doesn't get ratings in NYC nor does it bring in the advertising.

As far as 105.1 going Alternative. Thats a joke right?? Power 105 is doing quite well in the ratings, MUCH MUCH better than K-Rock was doing outside of Stern. NO WAY are they going to trade in a station that has proven to get solid ratings for a format that has proven it can't get ratings. Thats just absurd.

NYC is a MAJOR hip hop town it makes sense for NYC to have 2 hip hop stations (AT LEAST) in almost every book both Hot 97 & Power 105 are in the top 5 overall & they are ALWAYS #1 & #2 in their target demo 18-34.
 
> NYC needs an alternative station,an oldies station, a talk
> station & a country station. 105.1 could be
> alternative,102.7 could be oldies,107.1 in west chester
> county could be talk & 96.3 could be country.I'm sorry all
> of u hip-hop fans out there i think nyc only needs 1 hip-hop
> station the one that was there the longest Hot 97.
>
Ratings of Hot 97 and Power 105 are consistently high, and neither of these stations is likely to take a huge risk of switching to a format like alternative rock or country. Conventional wisdom is running strongly against oldies right now, however strong CBS-FM's performance might have been immediately prior to its recent flip to Jack.

No one would love a real alt-rock station to return to the airwaves more than me, but I'm totally unpersuaded that Power 105 should or will flip to that or any of the other formats you mentioned. It's just not in the cards. Maybe it seems redundant for there to be two hiphops FMs in NYC, but the market is obviously huge, and the stations' numbers tell the story.

As for Mix 102.7 flipping to oldies, that might not be the craziest idea in the world, given the numbers CBS-FM had versus those of Mix. But of course, it's owned by Viacom (Infinity), where the decision to flip CBS-FM to Jack
was made. If they wanted to continue to program oldies, they could have made CBS and Mix oldies and Jack, respectively, which they didn't do. That has been hashed and rehashed on this board at this point.

Switching 107.1 The Peak from AAA to alternative is an interesting idea. With the station's limited signal, that might not seem like a solution to a lot of alt-rock fans, but might (or might not) be in that station's interests. I kinda like listening to The Peak (or at least knowing that it's there for me to listen to), but on the other hand, the point I'm supposed to be making here is that demographics and ratings (and billing!) are what really drives programming decisions, not satisfying a particular fan base. So I can just dream on...

Also, there is plenty of talk on AM. WABC, WOR, WLIB, not to mention the sports stations. WNEW's experience with "Hot talk" on FM might have been a poor example of FM talk, but it was a dismal enough failure that it's hard to imagine another New York FM doing talk.

And country? Haven't we talked enough about that already?
 
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