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NYC Pirate Radio

Those are my buddies. You can see what they are up to now by going to their website: http://hankandjim.hankhayes.com/ or www.hankhayes.com

They have podcasts available for the shows that they are still doing on Shortwave and if you visit this site: http://rfny.hankhayes.com/ you can download vintage shows from the Pirating days. They also have the complete story of their pirate stations over the years listed on the site, including the infamous ship, "Sarah" that was busted off the NY shoreline. That one got them a vj for a day gig at MTV.

My favorite thing they would play was a voice mail left by FCC agent, Judah Mansbeck (sp?) saying "This is the FCC, We're gonna get you". They made it into a jingle. :)
 
JohnParker said:
Those are my buddies. You can see what they are up to now by going to their website: http://hankandjim.hankhayes.com/ or www.hankhayes.com

My favorite thing they would play was a voice mail left by FCC agent, Judah Mansbeck (sp?) saying "This is the FCC, We're gonna get you". They made it into a jingle. :)

Hank does overnights on my webcast. Hank and Jim use to do New Years and Labor Day on Danbury's WLAD-AM back many many years ago - it was just like listening to their former pirate!
 
Bill, I see that your station is on Live365. I have one that I started there a couple of months ago as well, "The Rhythm of the City". Playing the biggest dance hits of yesterday and today. It's doing ok so far.

I've known Hank and Perry for 20 plus years. Met them when I was in college working at WKRB. I still download their new podcasts whenever they gets around to uploading them. :)

I still say someone should give them a show. Sirius or XM are you listening?????

jp
 
Bill DeFelice said:
Does anybody remember this? This was the precursor of "WHOT-FM" which lived at "91 and a half" back in the day. Judging by the pictures of the FCC field office it looks like it's circa late 70's or early 80's. It looks like it was old news footage, perhaps produced after the bust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFhUJNVyQnE

Bill!

The YouTube clip is from an old CBS Network newsmagazine called "No Holds Barred" (the precursor to "48 Hours"!). Not sure of the exact date, but it's actually from the days soon after the WFAT-AM bust in 1979 (WHOT wouldn't have it's door kicked in until ten years later in 1989).

You can read the rrrrrrest of the story here: http://rfny.hankhayes.com/03_wfat.html

Petezs! :)
 
PeteRFNY said:
Bill!

The YouTube clip is from an old CBS Network newsmagazine called "No Holds Barred" (the precursor to "48 Hours"!). Not sure of the exact date, but it's actually from the days soon after the WFAT-AM bust in 1979 (WHOT wouldn't have it's door kicked in until ten years later in 1989).

You can read the rrrrrrest of the story here: http://rfny.hankhayes.com/03_wfat.html

Petezs! :)

Those were some wild times, to say the least. I don't think pirate radio will ever be that fun again. All I have to say is "Man Oh Man"
 
I was riding the #7 Train around Corona and I heard a Spanish music loud and clear on 101.5 FM. In this era of internet radio, I don't see the need for pirates. The FCC should really crack down since it impedes listening of legitimate stations.
 
Most of these pirate stations are targeting audiences which, to be perfectly honest, don't have high rates of internet connectivity. For them, radio is still very much a relevant medium.

I also think there's differences in how pirates affect legitimate stations... I don't think a pirate in Corona on 101.5 affects anyone really...NJ 101.5 doesn't really go through that far and I can't imagine it would have many listeners...101.1 and 101.9 are 0.4 MHz apart which is more than enough spacing, IMO. (In many European countries spacing between legal stations in the same city can often be as little as 0.25 or 0.3 MHz with no problems).

It's the pirates that step on frequencies where there are actually listenable stations (Webe 108 for example on 107.9) or glue themselves next to legitimate staitons (like the one on 101.7) that cause more problems.
 
This has become a facinating topic for me as I never realized it was such a problem. I recently moved from Manhattan to Brooklyn and cannot believe the number of pirates in this borough. In the evening there must be close to 6 or 7 that I can pull in with great clarity on my Tivoli radio. All seem to be geared towards a Carribean/black audience.
I hear a mix of reggae to urban and most pirates seem to air commercials advertising local ethnic establishments in the borough.
Someday I'll formulate a list of them which I'm sure some other pirate enthusiast has already done.
 
I love Hank Hayes. He's a funny guy from his pirate radio days at WFAT-AM, WGUT-AM and WHOT. Those are the station that Hank Hayes & Jim Nazium owned until the FCC got busted on July 4th, 1989. I've never listen to Hank Hayes & Jim Nazium before since I was young when they were on WHOT 91.5 (91 1/2) which was the same frequency as WNYE as a station that are still running public affairs programming and some foreign language programming overnight. WNYE is still at 91.5 after a pirate station WHOT went dead 17 years ago.

Thanks to Hank Hayes & Jim Nazium where they had their own show on Friday nights on Radio New York International as well as a podcast heard every week. It also features the cast of people who were no longer with us like Howard Cosell, Orson Welles, Bob Murphy, Vince Edwards (as Dr. Ben Casey) and many others. They played some oldies as well as some jingles taken from station that are no longer there like WCBS-FM when it was an oldies station for 33 years, now it's "Jack" and the reverb that it sounded a lot like Musicradio WABC in those days and WCBS-FM where they used to do the same reverb until the end of the 33-year run since it was turned off while Dave Logan joined the station for 6 months until the format flip on June 3rd of last year. This was right after Joe McCoy left the station where he was a good program director for WCBS-FM with all of its reverb as part of the oldies station for the last 33 years.

Nice to hear Hank Hayes & Jim Nazium back together again online every Friday night as well as on Sundays on WBCQ shortwave where Jim Nazium goes solo. Check out their great podcasts:

http://hankhayes.podomatic.com/
http://jimnazium.podomatic.com/
http://whot.podomatic.com
 
neo11 said:
I also think there's differences in how pirates affect legitimate stations... I don't think a pirate in Corona on 101.5 affects anyone really...NJ 101.5 doesn't really go through that far and I can't imagine it would have many listeners...

From a 10th floor apartment in Nassau I used ot pull in NJ 101.5 easy. That's irrelevant though. It's illegal. There's only a relatively small amount of spectrum and if we go back to the days before the FRC it will be the end of radio. Period.
 
I'm not defending the pirates, just pointing out that on most conventional radios in most of NYC, except save probably southern Brooklyn and SI, you get absolutely nothing on 101.5.

Also no one is calling for the complete deregulation of the airwaves, but I almost wonder if by having had a head start over other countries we actually set ourselves back in some ways. I don't really understand why only odd numbered frequencies can be used here. I know that interference was a concern once, but technology has improved and I've seen firsthand that stations can broadcast 0.25 or 0.3 MHz apart at full power without any problem.

I don't think there's anything wrong with questioning something or introducing new ideas to the table (without breaking the law of course).

Finally, I really am surprised that with WLIB going to AA and now Gospel, and all these Caribbean broadcasters doing seemingly well in Brooklyn, even illegally, how no station, even an AM, has jumped on this demographic. The pirates could go away, but I don't think those listeners would then migrate to any of the legal stations.
 
BruceS8852 said:
I was riding the #7 Train around Corona and I heard a Spanish music loud and clear on 101.5 FM. In this era of internet radio, I don't see the need for pirates. The FCC should really crack down since it impedes listening of legitimate stations.

Bruce,

Just wanted to clarify something for you about the medium of "underground radio". Pirates as they exist TODAY bear little-to-no resemblence to what used to also be called the era of "hobby broadcasting" that existed before the Panaxis microtransmitter boom of the mid-1990s.

As hard as this is to believe, there WAS a time when 99.9% of actively-broadcasting pirates bent over backwards to be sure they NEVER interfered with licensed radio stations. The reasons for that were three-fold:

1. Most pirates looked upon themselves as an visitor to the broadcast spectrum, not an interloper. The whole idea was to ENTERTAIN without restriction - not to achieve some oddball modicum of fame and fortune - hell, many pirates were run by guys working in legit radio! Most pirates felt that they could fill a missing "niche" - whether it was the lack of LOCALLY-ORIGINATED NY-area talk shows in the late-70s (which led to talk programming on stations such as WFAT, WGOR and WEKG) or the missing "personality" element of the market that led to the existence of WHOT, WFUN, WMAD, et al in the 80s (who knew - people actually ENJOYED listening to "fun" radio!).

2. Pirates of the time did not want to pi**-off any licensed radio stations then. Why would you? As recently as the early 1990s, the idea of putting a pirate in NYC on 101.5 - with WXKW being so close by - would have been the work of an insane person (who would have then had to deal with any other area pirates labeling him a troublemaker - and an idiot).

3. What was there to be gained by raising the antennae of the FCC? Nothing. Being on an "unwelcome" frequency or broadcasting 24/7 would have merely brought down unneeded "heat".

Pirates had a "code" in those days, too. As many as three or four stations could "share" an open frequency without incident. The ultimate Gentlemen's Agreement. And you better believe that NO pirate would have DARED sell advertising back then. The idea wasn't to make money or get into magazines; the idea was to entertain.

You are right on the money with your statement about the availablity of the Internet. With the easy availablity of netcasting and podcasting these days, many of the "Old School" pirates of days gone by have turned to the 'Net as their new medium of choice. If such a thing had been available in the 60s, 70s and 80s, many pirate broadcaster would have likely become Podcasters - but no such alternative existed at the time.

The free-for-all "pirate radio" that has been in existence since the mid-90s bears NO resemblence to what "pirate radio" in this country was for decades (something the Snifferamas of the world can't seem to grasp). It wasn't until exciters and transmitters became as easy to buy as cell phones that things got out of hand. Add to the math misguided individuals like Steve Dunifer (who hands out transmitters the way they hand out free newspapers outside of Port Authorit Bus Terminal) and you have what you see now: a pirate swarm that more resembles the CB Radio boom / disaster of the 70s: way too many people dumping carriers, selling advertising and generally making the whole concept of "underground radio" look bad.

Apparently, when the idea of pirate radio meant a handful of technical or radio guys bucking the law, the FCC had nio problem kicking down doors with rows of gun-toting Federal Marshalls in tow. Now that there are dozens, even hundreds on in big city markets, the once tough-talking, all-swagger FCC has become a paper tiger, afraid of their own shadow. Funny how that works out.

So - while difficult to explain, once should not mistake what we see NOW for what once was.
 
neo11 said:
Also no one is calling for the complete deregulation of the airwaves, but I almost wonder if by having had a head start over other countries we actually set ourselves back in some ways. I don't really understand why only odd numbered frequencies can be used here. I know that interference was a concern once, but technology has improved and I've seen firsthand that stations can broadcast 0.25 or 0.3 MHz apart at full power without any problem.

I don't think there's anything wrong with questioning something or introducing new ideas to the table (without breaking the law of course).

Finally, I really am surprised that with WLIB going to AA and now Gospel, and all these Caribbean broadcasters doing seemingly well in Brooklyn, even illegally, how no station, even an AM, has jumped on this demographic. The pirates could go away, but I don't think those listeners would then migrate to any of the legal stations.

You bring up an interesting point. If radio were deregulated there would be more stations, hence more choice, in essence what HD radio is trying to do but without the cost of purchasing the HD radio itself.
In turn there would be more bleed, less DXing and all the obvious problems of having stations spaced closer together. That being said, I would prefer more deregulation such as in Europe. From such stringent standards in this country we have turned radio into a very regulated, cookie cutter type of business with programmers terrified to do anything outside the box. The result is boring radio which at the end of the day target only a selected few leaving huge format holes in virtually every market.
I say more power to the Pirates!

Regarding the demographic of reggae/caribbean programing to which you refer, NYC. has a "legal" station programming the format out of Westchester, WRTN, 93.5fm. The signal covers most of the city but targets mainly the Bronx.
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=WRTN&service=FM
 
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